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oldskylancer
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No longbows, shortbows, crossbows, hand crossbows, heavy crossbows, arrows, bolts, poisoned bolts......
None? I'm gonna have a helluva time making my Drow assassin. Don't get me wrong I'm stoked but how could this be left on the table? And will releasing the game without it make them harder to implement further down the line?
If it's a balance thing please remember D&D does not need balance for fun. It's on expressing fantasy based on personality. Simple formula low level, fighter the man, mid level, rogue the man, high, level wizard the man. Clerics always the man. Flavor classes we all love Pally's, Rangers & Bards sometimes the man but not necessarily always but we still love em and play em. There are a plethora of other races and classes played not for their power or stats but because it fits the player. Why do you think psyonics keep showing up. Warlocks, illusionist? Get on it, I'll be expecting classes to grow exponentially after release. :P
Back to topic BOWS!!
None? I'm gonna have a helluva time making my Drow assassin. Don't get me wrong I'm stoked but how could this be left on the table? And will releasing the game without it make them harder to implement further down the line?
If it's a balance thing please remember D&D does not need balance for fun. It's on expressing fantasy based on personality. Simple formula low level, fighter the man, mid level, rogue the man, high, level wizard the man. Clerics always the man. Flavor classes we all love Pally's, Rangers & Bards sometimes the man but not necessarily always but we still love em and play em. There are a plethora of other races and classes played not for their power or stats but because it fits the player. Why do you think psyonics keep showing up. Warlocks, illusionist? Get on it, I'll be expecting classes to grow exponentially after release. :P
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That's a big way they are going to make money in this game. Class and race unlocks.
To sleep, perchance to dream. Aye, there's the rub, *giggity*
You believe things will happen this way, yet you still supported this game by buying a founders pack! Wth dude?
If this is true, the game can count me and a hell of a lot of other players out. This game will go no where if they restrict content like you said above. There is no game on the market currently that does this and is any good. People are being exposed to games like GW2, PoE, Raiderz, Firefall, Tera (recently), and many more that offer all in-game content for free and only restrict aesthetic things for shop purchase. So I tell you now, if Cryptic want a complete disaster of a community who troll and carry on like D3's community, then by all means, they should go in this p2w direction. Honestly, the worst thing for me is to restrict classes to paying customers, that is horrible and very greedy.
There has been no statement from Cryptic in regards to selling classes or races.
I won't say it's impossible, they haven't discussed this with anybody, but I would be more shocked than you if they charged for classes, especially if they chose to charge for every class after launch.
I wouldn't weight this high in my fear priority. Cryptic designed the game so that there would be, and I quote, no limit to the number of class possibilities. I feel, if anything than 100% free, charged for classes would be rare and especially unique. Don't decide to not give it a shot because of that fear
DDO: Incredibly successful F2P game where classes and races are restricted.
LOTRO: Ditto
Champions Online: Very successful F2P game where powersets are restricted.
If anything this means more success.
You know what's rad about Neverwinter? No box cost. You're playing a game for free. If there is a restricted class or race you want, pay the measly $8 or whatever it will be and pretend that's your box cost. And this is assuming they even cost money at all.
Unfortunately not, and no Zen for unlocks. Classes are currently free and I have not received ANY note of this changing since late 2010. If it does though, they will let you know. Thank you for being clear though it's your opinion. Other posters are...not so much.
I have no problem with them monetizing classes/races in a F2P game as a way to generate revenue, especially since Cryptic's zen is typically tradable against in-game currency. It's a more honest practice than the folks who make you spend $60 on a game and then release same-day DLC for an additional charge.
But, as the moderator pointed out, it's just my opinion of what I very much expect to happen. Why? Because it's a very profitable and tested model that several f2p games use (ie EQ2). I don't have any more information on their actual plans than you do.
Haha, thank you for the response on that. I wasn't going to skip the game due to my worry of that event happening, I am really looking forward to the game. I was merely elluding to the fact that if that event were to occur, I would immediately stop playing or skip it if I knew about it prior to release. :P
If I were making this game, I'd eventually introduce every Player's Handbook "build" as a free class, and every Player's Handbook race as a free race; and then I'd start introducing PH2 and PH3 races and classes, with 2 out of every 3 of them as paid account unlocks.
I'd do the same with PH paragon paths free, and PH2/3 paragon paths 2:1 paid:free. Possibly adjusting that ratio toward more pay and less free, depending on various factors.
But I don't work for PWE, so this is just my opinion.
Swtor's recent switch to f2p is basically the type I find digusting. I won't play something like that. I'll only play if it's a system like GW2 or Tera.
Agree. This is a core class they are leaving out. Sucks for everyone that wants to play one because we'll have to re-roll when it finally gets in game.
EQ2 also has a class and race that you have to purchase if you are not a gold member (pay by the month). Gaming companies are allowed to make money (and need to do so somehow).
Would I love to have Rangers at launch? Yes! But if not, I dont mind having to pay for it later...
On top of that this game has no bows/crossbows/guns for players to use currently. Releasing ranger without a ranged weapon would feel for me like to release a car without wheels.
Well I really like ranger Class. I sure want both ranged weapons for players and Ranger class released. One more thing. I HATE Guild Wars 2. This game does NOT have the philosophy of Guild Wars 2. If you dream about that you better leave now before your hopes get buried.
First of all this is not so casual as Guild Wars 2. Secondly if analysing only cashshop they don't sell only cosmetic **** like Guild Wars 2. On the other hand it costs to buy Guild Wars 2 the game. Drow race is already PAY to play race. It is currently included in package Hero of the North that costs 199$. You likely can buy Drow class also separately.
We must be thankful for every free class and race that is released. I really hope classes will remain free. I would pay a lot if I could play as a monster Werewolf or a Vampire in this game.
it always had more of an rp value than anything. I just hope they implement all of standard classes and then advanced ones :P
Just roll a trickster and dual wield scimitars
Yes, it comes with Hero of the North founders pack
The thing I liked about the ranger was you could do a little of this and a little of that just depending on the needs of the time. The ranger is far more useful than just RP in my opinion.
I don't think rogues can use scimitar, just daggers and shortswords(for melee).
Player Vampire is an actual character class (not race) in the 4th Edition Book "Heroes Of Shadow".
Both GW and GW2 are great games imho. *shrugs* And obviously GW2 is very different from NW. Anyone with a brain can tell they are not remotely similar. I wasn't comparing the actual game, I was talking about the cash shop only. And GW2's cash shop is great, as is Tera's. That is the way a cash shop should be. Not some nickle and dime you for every little thing garbage game.
oh and just so you know, drow is FREE to play. A mod here stated so. Only the Menzo renegade is for pay and that seems more for cosmetic/RP purposes. Here is the post:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?34781-Menzoberranzan-Renegade-Questions&p=592991&viewfull=1#post592991