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Don't make cheesy Holiday events/achievements!

garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
edited February 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Alright I've been thinking about this for awhile but now I need to post this to get this off of my chest. I am not entirely sure how the majority feel about this but I think that Holiday events and achievements ruin immersion and make the game really cheesy. I want to get a quest that sends me into the deepest darkest catacombs where I will have to fight my way through ravenous undead NOT go down town and get ingredients for some F&&&in' gingerbread cookies or have snowball fights with the local children NPCs!!!

In a game that is based on D&D I don't think it belongs. It is evident from the videos that there are achievements in the game for other things relating to character progression, exploration, etc. and I am fine with that. How do you guys feel?
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  • mrsnakegmrsnakeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 60
    edited February 2013
    I personally like these special events in games.

    Going to the degree you're talking about is ridiculous, but perhaps making it snow during December with some extra costumes/achievements that are time limited, is a good thing. I think it's a great way to show appreciation to your fans and players, and allowing your players to show how long they've been playing and active (been playing for three christmases, look I have Santa Suit from Christmas One and that special title from Christmas Two).

    Not that I really care for that purpose, but it also gives the developers a reason to change things up a bit every now and then. Who knows, a Halloween month of random Zombie events could be interesting.
  • mazarenmazaren Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 67
    edited February 2013
    im not a big fan of holiday events either just because it takes away from the immersion and adds a comedic point to the game. D&D's a serious atmosphere in the stuff ive played before. just an opinion.
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  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    mrsnakeg wrote: »
    I personally like these special events in games.

    Going to the degree you're talking about is ridiculous, but perhaps making it snow during December with some extra costumes/achievements that are time limited, is a good thing. I think it's a great way to show appreciation to your fans and players, and allowing your players to show how long they've been playing and active (been playing for three christmases, look I have Santa Suit from Christmas One and that special title from Christmas Two).

    Not that I really care for that purpose, but it also gives the developers a reason to change things up a bit every now and then. Who knows, a Halloween month of random Zombie events could be interesting.

    What I'm talking about is like Player Bloggins for example gets a Christmas Hat and then he wears said Hat everyday for the rest of his playing career. I don't want to see people running around dressed up like fruitcakes. D&D is about Skeletons and Dragons, etc...
  • lsyalsya Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I'm not against in game holidays/events as long as they fit the lore of the culture in the game. Most societies have some sort of festival that goes along with seasonal changes (spring, harvest, winter, etc).

    I am against bringing real world holidays into the games. I agree it kills the immersion. I play the games as my character in that world not as myself. An exception would be a game like The Secret World where the game takes place in our world. I would expect to see real world holiday type events there, because it fits the game.

    So, if there are special events, I'd like to see them kept in context with the game's lore.
    L'sya Raiya
  • mrsnakegmrsnakeg Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 60
    edited February 2013
    What I'm talking about is like Player Bloggins for example gets a Christmas Hat and then he wears said Hat everyday for the rest of his playing career. I don't want to see people running around dressed up like fruitcakes. D&D is about Skeletons and Dragons, etc...

    But I like my hat.

    I play Santa Gragas in Leagues in the middle of July. What's your point?

    I'm all for it.
  • enixonbbenixonbb Member Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    D&D's serious atmosphere? This is the brand that brought us Deekin Scalesinger, flumphs, the garter of gender change, and the Bunny on a Log monster among countless other bits of silliness.
  • geddings12geddings12 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    why? the holidays can be fun. Im for it :-). but make the rewards kinda neat :-).
  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited February 2013
    Don't worry, soon the OP will be visited by three ghosts, and then he'll be here passing out Christmas hats to all. Or something related to one of the at least 11 documented Winter Solstice festivals in the Forgotten Realms.

    Perhaps the High Hunt is symbolized by people wearing hats with antlers on them, and anyone who can touch such a person with a piece of mistletoe earns a kiss.
  • argoyletargoylet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just use the Realms holidays, some of them even rough match up with rl holiday schedules
    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Holidays

    Feast of the Moon around Halloween
    Midwinter festival during december
    etc.

    Keeps the flavor of the realms, while allowing people to enjoy in game events around the holidays.
  • draxonflydraxonfly Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I hate real world holiday events in games.. I log out and don't play the game until the event is over (and hopefully don't find interest somewhere else)
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  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    argoylet wrote: »
    Just use the Realms holidays, some of them even rough match up with rl holiday schedules
    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Holidays

    Feast of the Moon around Halloween
    Midwinter festival during december
    etc.

    Keeps the flavor of the realms, while allowing people to enjoy in game events around the holidays.

    I guess if they kept it in the flavor of Forgotten Realms. I keep thinking about the cheesy World of Warcraft Holidays with Goblins wearing Santa costumes and having to go hunt down the Grinch and Metzen the Reindeer.... So crappy.
  • izatarizatar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't want to see people running around dressed up like fruitcakes.
    You must be new here.
  • xearrikxearrik Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    All developers disregard OP. Please make as many events as possible, with tons of cheesy titles you can earn. If he doesn't like them, he doesn't have to use them.
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  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    xearrik wrote: »
    All developers disregard OP. Please make as many events as possible, with tons of cheesy titles you can earn. If he doesn't like them, he doesn't have to use them.
    I guess some people like that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>...
  • tronc8463tronc8463 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    xearrik wrote: »
    All developers disregard OP. Please make as many events as possible, with tons of cheesy titles you can earn. If he doesn't like them, he doesn't have to use them.

    As long as they don't focus to heavily on fluff and fix bugs as a priority then I have no issues. Hate it when MMO's spend more time on fluff when the core game is broken.
  • ruinedmirageruinedmirage Member Posts: 440 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    Ummm..... snowball fights in the town of Neverwinter......?

    Can someone again update me on its lore, and also 4E deities and how their religious holidays somehow reflect modern day Christianity?

    gill, save me here! T_T
  • johnny305johnny305 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Since this will be a F2P game they almost have to do holidays and events like that. Its a big money maker to sell items that only come around once a year or once ever.
  • darthdisneydarthdisney Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    achievements are in game as seen in the control wizard demo
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You dont wear fruitcakes You fire them out of cannons to kill the British... oh wait no that is what George Washington "supposedly" did...
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  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    achievements are in game as seen in the control wizard demo

    Did you even read my post I acknowledged that fact that achievements are in the game its quite obvious when he gets the Slayer achievement for doing 2500 physical damage in the Rogue vid...

    *shakes head*
  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    What I'm talking about is like Player Bloggins for example gets a Christmas Hat and then he wears said Hat everyday for the rest of his playing career. I don't want to see people running around dressed up like fruitcakes. D&D is about Skeletons and Dragons, etc...

    And I think every drow, Drizzit wanna be should be tied to the stake and burned... but my personal taste wants isn't going to happen.

    Seasonal goof off things are a time to celebrate the *real* holidays in game and can be a lot of fun. GW2 did a great job with their Halloween event and adapted the holiday into the game. DDO has similar goof off events and costumes, hell even WoW mad it fit the game. If it bothers you then don't participate or simply don't log on during the events, this game is centered around your personal tastes.
  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    And I think every drow, Drizzit wanna be should be tied to the stake and burned... but my personal taste wants isn't going to happen.

    Seasonal goof off things are a time to celebrate the *real* holidays in game and can be a lot of fun. GW2 did a great job with their Halloween event and adapted the holiday into the game. DDO has similar goof off events and costumes, hell even WoW mad it fit the game. If it bothers you then don't participate or simply don't log on during the events, this game is centered around your personal tastes.

    Not everybody likes these events. If the company wants to do it simply because its a huge cash grab then I guess we have to deal with it or move on... Like I said I think they are F&&&in' cheesy and they ruin immersion. Its filler fluff content that should be replaced with real lore/story content. Instead of adding a bunch of holiday events they could spend that time and energy and make a new dungeon or two or a new zone even.
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Not everybody likes these events. If the company wants to do it simply because its a huge cash grab then I guess we have to deal with it or move on... Like I said I think they are F&&&in' cheesy and they ruin immersion. Its filler fluff content that should be replaced with real lore/story content. Instead of adding a bunch of holiday events they could spend that time and energy and make a new dungeon or two or a new zone even.

    Halloween could be killing monsters in the Underdark, With a boss like a Spider Queen or something(would that work for you)
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  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    Halloween could be killing monsters in the Underdark, With a boss like a Spider Queen or something(would that work for you)

    I think that as long as it doesn't ruin immersion its alright. I'm having flash backs about WoW and the stupid Christmas lights in Orgrimmar and the Christmas trees everywhere with presents under them. I celebrate Christmas in real life but I don't want to see that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in the game I'm playing it just doesn't fit.
  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    Not everybody likes these events. If the company wants to do it simply because its a huge cash grab then I guess we have to deal with it or move on... Like I said I think they are F&&&in' cheesy and they ruin immersion. Its filler fluff content that should be replaced with real lore/story content. Instead of adding a bunch of holiday events they could spend that time and energy and make a new dungeon or two or a new zone even.

    Since when are MMOs ever immersive? If you want real immersion then stick with the RP communities and not to force your personal tastes down others throats. Many events are not "F&&&in' cheesy," take a gander are numerous MMOs and you will see that.

    Do you really think that seasonal events cost content? Seasonal events are a time for some light hearted fun. Look at the countless holiday event minigames that people can kick back and goof off for a it. People like seasonal events and it's a time for the community to be drawn together to goof off around with. It' a time to "let your hair down."
  • garrettroguegarrettrogue Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
    edited February 2013
    Since when are MMOs ever immersive? If you want real immersion then stick with the RP communities and not to force your personal tastes down others throats. Many events are not "F&&&in' cheesy," take a gander are numerous MMOs and you will see that.

    Do you really think that seasonal events cost content? Seasonal events are a time for some light hearted fun. Look at the countless holiday event minigames that people can kick back and goof off for a it. People like seasonal events and it's a time for the community to be drawn together to goof off around with. It' a time to "let your hair down."

    I understand what you're saying I still don't know how I feel about it... I guess we'll have to wait and see how they implement it. I'm not forcing my tastes down peoples throats I am simply posting my thoughts on the matter...
  • tinbender02tinbender02 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 209 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    Since when are MMOs ever immersive? If you want real immersion then stick with the RP communities and not to force your personal tastes down others throats. Many events are not "F&&&in' cheesy," take a gander are numerous MMOs and you will see that.

    What is wrong with RPs asking for an MMO they way they want one? After all asking for something is the only way to get it.
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  • meldrothmeldroth Member Posts: 137 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    lsya wrote: »
    I'm not against in game holidays/events as long as they fit the lore of the culture in the game. Most societies have some sort of festival that goes along with seasonal changes (spring, harvest, winter, etc).

    I am against bringing real world holidays into the games. I agree it kills the immersion. I play the games as my character in that world not as myself. An exception would be a game like The Secret World where the game takes place in our world. I would expect to see real world holiday type events there, because it fits the game.

    So, if there are special events, I'd like to see them kept in context with the game's lore.

    +1

    I mean, I wouldn't want to see *no* events. But I would want those events to actually be fun... and not have a bunch of drops across the world that I have to ignore.
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  • zylaxxzylaxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 591 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    mazaren wrote: »
    im not a big fan of holiday events either just because it takes away from the immersion and adds a comedic point to the game. D&D's a serious atmosphere in the stuff ive played before. just an opinion.

    I share this opinion. I would rather the devs spend time on "real" content then holiday stuff but this is just me.
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  • darren0kitlordarren0kitlor Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Alright I've been thinking about this for awhile but now I need to post this to get this off of my chest. I am not entirely sure how the majority feel about this but I think that Holiday events and achievements ruin immersion and make the game really cheesy. I want to get a quest that sends me into the deepest darkest catacombs where I will have to fight my way through ravenous undead NOT go down town and get ingredients for some F&&&in' gingerbread cookies or have snowball fights with the local children NPCs!!!

    In a game that is based on D&D I don't think it belongs. It is evident from the videos that there are achievements in the game for other things relating to character progression, exploration, etc. and I am fine with that. How do you guys feel?
    Content is content.

    Choose to play what you will but leave things like this alone.

    Holiday events tend to drive up player numbers and those players tend to support game financially--meaning the game lasts longer and you have to say goodbye to your bro-dude double-scimitar +5 at a later date.
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