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Can a Neverwinter MMO truly live up to the hype?

aspadedaceaspadedace Member Posts: 2 Arc User
edited September 2012 in General Discussion (PC)
I personally am a huge fan of both the Neverwinter series and Dungeons and Dragons, and have been waiting for a Neverwinter sequel for quite some time. However I would be lying to you if I said that I was hoping for an MMO. I would much have preferred to have a Co-Op RPG, But after seeing some gameplay footage I was very impressed at how un-WoWish it was like, because most modern day MMO's tend to lead in that direction. So what I think the game will boil down to is this:

For those that like MMO's will the PvP be engaging enough? Will certain classes be over powered?

For people like me, will it give a strong RPG Co-Op feeling? Will the foundry give true D&D players the feeling that they are a DM?

But most importantly, will the community be large enough to support this game? If so, how much will they contribute to the foundry (which looks awesome)?

Please feel free to respond to these questions and post your own below, but please keep it clean.
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  • surkusisurkusi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Hi, first time poster, long time reader on the forum.

    I dont see how anyone could answer your questions, from what iv'e read and seen I could swear that the game is still in development. Balance may be off at the release and get patched later on. PVP hasn't been in any publicly playable demo and my emphaty skill isnt high enough to know if the game will satisfy you.

    Hey i dont even know if the game will satisfy me - i've waited for some time now reading on it and watching videos, it looks awesome, but so did the other action-RPG that was recently in closed beta, after long time waiting for it i got into the beta and RealiZed that combat alone makes a game awesome for only the first few days. Im hoping Neverwinter has more than awesome combat and the mission builder to it - so far im getting more excited with every new piece of information.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    It's tough when they are only promoting it sectionally or by piecemeal. Ask me a few weeks ago about Foundry and I would have given a raspberry sound and said it it was anything like STO's, it would have been sorely lacking. I'm happy if I were ever to have said that to virtually eat my words...but glad I was never asked :)

    I've also heard some things such as crafting is incredible but not a darn thing else. The game was delayed so they could polish it including adding PvP for what I hope is in some balanced form or different and separate to PvE at least.

    So, until they start talking (even if nothing else) about more features, the hype living up or not is moot as there's not enough hype to judge so far on the total game.
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  • vindiconvindicon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Well, I don't think it's hyped enough in the first place to wonder whether or not it will live up to it. They've only recently began seriously promoting it, and even with that it's nowhere near the amount of hype you saw for games like RaiderZ during alpha. It's also not terribly well recieved by mainstream (non MMO-specific) gaming sites, like the Escapist or RPS.

    Also, it's not a NWN sequel. It borrows a bit from it, but it's a completely different IP. That's where most people are disappointed, because they expect a game to be something specific just because of the name it carries, even if there's no real connection with the previous games sharing the name.
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  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    What hype, other than the hype surrounding the Foundry? The Foundry does exactly what they say it does, It works. As to whether or not the D&D crowd that has been creating and sharing its own adventure modules in the pen-and-paper game or online in Neverwinter Nights, latches onto its potential in this game remains to be seen. But even if Cryptic does not release one IOTA of additional quest content post-launch, yes, the game can be a success.

    The concept of Neverwinter was built around the notion of user-generated content, just like D&D itself has been built for all the years it has existed. That right there opens the door for great success.

    It is Perfect World that has directed Cryptic to turn this into a full MMO rather than the multi-instanced cooperative game built around the Foundry. But I see that as redulting in an official campaign to level up with. But we have also been told that we can level up using only the Foundry if we so choose. I think that essentially what NW was originally being designed to be remains at the core of what it will be. But instead of just providing locations in the gameworld for us to plug our own adventures into, and maybe providing a short series of quests that serve as more of a tutorial than anything else, They've had to write a core series of stories. That right there is probably what is taking so long, more than anything else. That and making sure that the Foundry offers as much creative power as it can while complying with the need to keep things balanced on their servers.

    So again, the only hype I see surrounding Neverwinter stems from what the Foundry will allow. It is a tool which has proved quite effective in Star Trek Online. So I am confident that it will live up to the hype that is surrounding it for Neverwinter.
    I'm not really a John Galt,
    but I play one on the forums...
    :P
  • thetruthurtsthetruthurts Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    No, it cant. Neither could TOR, or TSW, or GW2. No game can ever live up to the hype, so saying NW cant is not a dis, it is simply reality. The real question is whether NW will be a good game, and I think the answer is yes.
  • vangaldvangald Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 325 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    How many things that are extensively hyped ever do?
  • perdidurperdidur Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2012
    I think the only hype for this game is that which is created in some individual's minds because it is a DnD online game. I certainly don't think PW or Cryptic have hyped it much at all. I actually expected more hype. Like all upcoming mmos that I have an interest in I am getting hyped as we approach release. I just hope that NWO lives up to my moderate degree of self-induced hype and expectation.
  • lsyalsya Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    No, it cant. Neither could TOR, or TSW, or GW2. No game can ever live up to the hype, so saying NW cant is not a dis, it is simply reality. The real question is whether NW will be a good game, and I think the answer is yes.

    ^^^^ This!

    Players have a tendency to envision an upcoming game to be what they want it to be. Rarely does it turn out that way. Like mentioned above, that's not a dis to the game...it's just the way it is. Whether or not it's a good game, we'll just have to wait and see.
    L'sya Raiya
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'm still trying to figure out what hype the OP is referring to....so far this has been the most under-hyped game I have ever seen.
    Always Looking for mature laidback players/rpers for Dungeon Delves!
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Yes it can.

    Argue that!
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    Yes it can ! nothing is impossible.
    The question will it be ? Well we all hope so
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    aeroth001 wrote: »
    Yes it can ! nothing is impossible.
    The question will it be ? Well we all hope so

    Let us be practical here. It won't be done perfect the first time, many features won't be satisfactory while many features would be gratifying. But it will be our feedback as a community which will shape and reshape the game according to our demands.

    So I would say, Yes it can!
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    vote gillrmn for mayor for the City of Neverwinter !
  • ausdoerrtausdoerrt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Yeah, considering that there's no hype whatsoever, the game can easily live up to it. Next! b:laugh
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    ausdoerrt wrote: »
    Yeah, considering that there's no hype whatsoever, the game can easily live up to it. Next! b:laugh

    It was the trending game in MMORPG.com during and after PAX. So I would say it did generate hype.
  • aavariusaavarius Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    No, it cant. Neither could TOR, or TSW, or GW2. No game can ever live up to the hype, so saying NW cant is not a dis, it is simply reality. The real question is whether NW will be a good game, and I think the answer is yes.
    lsya wrote: »
    ^^^^ This!

    Players have a tendency to envision an upcoming game to be what they want it to be. Rarely does it turn out that way. Like mentioned above, that's not a dis to the game...it's just the way it is. Whether or not it's a good game, we'll just have to wait and see.

    I'm inclined to agree with both of you. I find that for media releases of any kind that people have unreasonable expectations based on conclusions they've jumped to based on a very limited understanding of what's actually coming out. Insomuch as it's possible for the Internet to tone down that kind of thing...yeah, I think Neverwinter will be a hit.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    aavarius wrote: »
    I'm inclined to agree with both of you. I find that for media releases of any kind that people have unreasonable expectations based on conclusions they've jumped to based on a very limited understanding of what's actually coming out. Insomuch as it's possible for the Internet to tone down that kind of thing...yeah, I think Neverwinter will be a hit.


    But not cure the common cold either.
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  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I am trying hard to just block out the hype. Kinda like I'm trying to block out all the politics out there in RL.

    All I really care about is whether or not I like the finished product. As long as I can get in, and get my hands dirty from launch, I'll be happy. Well having some others in the same situation would be nice too, considering it is an MMO.

    Lets hope the hype meter stays in the green-yellow zone, and never gets to red; that's when it's very hard for a game to actually match the hype, and the nerd rage sets in. b:angry
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    gillrmn wrote: »
    It was the trending game in MMORPG.com during and after PAX. So I would say it did generate hype.

    Yes but compared to the massive hype machines of games like SWTOR GW2 and TSW (all of which were pretty much flashes in the pan ) Neverwinter has no hype whatsoever, it not a lot to live up to and honestly most gamers have already written it off simply because it's a CRYPTIC game.

    A better question to ask is will Neverwinter take the community by surprise and put CRYPTIC back on the map....I would say that is very likely.
    Always Looking for mature laidback players/rpers for Dungeon Delves!
  • aavariusaavarius Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    But not cure the common cold either.
    That's a good analogy and you're point's well taken. I wonder when the news will finally hit that Guild Wars 2 hasn't cured the common cold either.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    aavarius wrote: »
    That's a good analogy and you're point's well taken. I wonder when the news will finally hit that Guild Wars 2 hasn't cured the common cold either.


    Well, if it's absorbing enough, maybe it actually can cure exercise...

    *Whispered to* Oh, it's the other way around?

    Never mind then.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ezrasteel1ezrasteel1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 109 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    As the game nears completion, much more hype will be generated for it. A lot of it has to do with marketing and attracting subscribers. I'm guessing they are taking a slow build up approach, which makes a certain amount of sense, again from a marketing standpoint. While we all would like to see more details and more information about the game, I suspect that it will continue to come out in bits and pieces.

    Look at the amount of people who are making their way into these forums. The numbers keep growing and they will continue to do so. Once closed Beta starts, there will be a massive influx of people clammering for Beta keys. It will continue to grow when open Beta starts. Timing is everything and I'm guessing that the devs have their target dates in mind. As we get closer and closer to that date, more and more hype will be generated. You don't want folks overanxious right now, demanding this, that, and the other. They simply aren't ready yet.

    I'm enjoying what I've been reading and will continue to check these forums daily to see what is being discussed. As for information forth coming from the devs, well that will happen when it does. Many other game producers are equally, if not more so, tight lipped with what they are doing. I would expect no less from these developers.

    So the long and short of it. I'm excited about the game. I'm not the type who wants to know what all my Christmas presents are before Christmas day. I'm enjoying the anticipation and looks forward to each new surprise as they come.

    My Best,

    Ezra Steel
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    A better question to ask is will Neverwinter take the community by surprise and put CRYPTIC back on the map....I would say that is very likely.

    http://www.bbb.org/sanjose/business-reviews/video-games-dealers/cryptic-studios-in-los-gatos-ca-221613

    We shall see. I really really really want this game to be awesome, but i shall allow myself the benefit of the doubt
  • hamerheddhamerhedd Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    A lotta writers point to the delays of the game as being a sign its bound to fail. I think the delays are a sign the game has a chance. How many of us have played mmos and wished devs woulda delayed releases and got them right?...
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited September 2012
    Can it? Yes, it can. Anything is possimpible.

    Will? I do not know, for I am not an oracle. Only time will tell.

    I truly do believe that it has a very good chance at being the best fantasy MMO to date.
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2012
    zebular wrote: »

    Will? I do not know, for I am not an oracle. Only time will tell.

    Divination wizard needed !
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Well, if it's absorbing enough, maybe it actually can cure exercise...

    *Whispered to* Oh, it's the other way around?

    Never mind then.

    Can it calculate the airspeed velocity of an unladen african swallow?
    Can it transport coconut by tying them to pigeons?
    Can it? Yes, it can. Anything is possimpible.

    Your lucky day as the opener only asked for "can" not will. That is why I answered: yes it can!
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    hamerhedd wrote: »
    A lotta writers point to the delays of the game as being a sign its bound to fail. I think the delays are a sign the game has a chance. How many of us have played mmos and wished devs woulda delayed releases and got them right?...




    Until this game, every...[CENSORED]...time!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • katalystikkatalystik Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Until this game, every...[CENSORED]...time!

    Delay of release if fine but... the beta delay, now THAT... THAT is something to.... b:angry yeah...

    b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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