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Please remove the class requirements for Harvester's NIghtmare

baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 172 Arc User
edited November 2023 in General Discussion (PC)
The class requirements really need to be removed. It takes FOREVER for a pug to pop. Many just form private groups to avoid the requirements or to solo it, but for some it's too hard to solo.

This is my least favorite appointment event just because of this class requirement.

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  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,492 Arc User
    Just grab 4 other warm bodies(undeads will do too..) and sign up as Private.

    No need to worry about composition(Private allows any), just grab whatever you can find. This one is so easy.

    I agree wait time sucks for Public queue, but really no need to use that for this one. The reason why Public queue is so slow is that everyone is just making Private groups in PE for it :)
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    edited November 2023
    I agree. Forget about public queue. Yes, class restriction is one thing. Even without it, it is still slow. Just private queue and take whatever number of players are available. This can be solo, 2, 3, 4 or 5. Waited too long? Just goes in with (say) party of 3.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 172 Arc User

    Just grab 4 other warm bodies(undeads will do too..) and sign up as Private.

    No need to worry about composition(Private allows any), just grab whatever you can find. This one is so easy.

    I agree wait time sucks for Public queue, but really no need to use that for this one. The reason why Public queue is so slow is that everyone is just making Private groups in PE for it :)

    So, if most are going with Private groups why bother having the requirement in the first place? Removing it would speed up the forming process for everyone.
  • rockster#6227 rockster Member Posts: 1,860 Arc User
    This creates a two-tier system which unfairly disadvantages players who are either newer to the game and do not yet have a friends circle or guild circle to rely on, or those who prefer solo play and choose not to play in private groups in the first place and just use PUG queues all the time when it's grouped content. I personally fall into this latter group, I have been playing forever but when I do grouped content I always use the public queue to do it and don't cultivate large groups of friends and guildies I can rely on and I don't feel comfortable asking people to come and 'help' me complete content anyway. There's lots of players like me who like to play the same way. When you have people being pushed into forming private queues to do content (as in this example here where it's possible then to remove the class requirements) this mathematically means less players doing public queues and those who don't do private groups have to wait longer and are put at an unfair disadvantage. Half the playerbase is screaming through multiple runs and amassing currency while the other half is sitting waiting forever for the queue to pop so they can do one measly run. One group gets rich while the other stays poor. The answer to this is to remove the class requirements from public queues or have an option to do it and have the normal PUG queue have class requirements but have a second opt-in choice which removes it.
    Apparently pointing-out the bleeding obvious is a 'personal attack'.
  • mithmyrrmithmyrr Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    Harvester should be considered a skirmish, and not have class requirements. I could have sworn previous years there were no party composition requirements.
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    It's so amusing..


    It's seems here in Neverwinter players get so spoiled due game doing most stuffs for them, that forgot how to build group/party on their own..

    Now just reminder, everyone can make private q's..
    Also if you look to /zone or /LFG chats,, you can always see someone who type in > +event , or lfg event..

    So how hard it is to make party in these days?? Like 10 min ago, done 3 event runs.. By average it took ~12s to make full group. 12 seconds. That's it.


    Make private q, grab random guys and that's will be more than enough to clear it. Cuz first week of this event its a formality to have a party. Actually 65k IL player with random gear from seal vendor is capable to clear this event without big problems anyways..

    Don't want do it solo?? Just grab few random guys from zone/lfg chat who's also look for group to do event. And that's it..
    Also you don't even need to have full party anyways.. Even Duo can be ok.


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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    edited November 2023
    I just go to PE and type '+event' (including the event that has no class requirement). It is not because of class requirement or I know anyone in PE but because it is faster that way.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
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