I have been attempting to upgrade my guild for many years now. When I first started (Mod 16) the game was in a relatively alright place that I could recruit and find people to help and assist with upgrading our guild. The ZAX was also relatively healthy at this time, so converting AD to Zen and then Chests of Power for Shards (Adventerer's & Heroic's being the biggest ones needed) wasn't too hard.
Well, as we all know the game isn't in such a state now is it? I know there are no plans to update the Stronghold anytime soon so I have a solution to making it easier for those of us who want to have guilds that AREN'T the 10 that are already level 20 and endgame active: **Reduce the price of buildings and upgrades in the Stronghold OR make Stronghold Quests from the Ranger, Builder, etc etc repeatable**
Please Note: When I say repeatable I don't mean once a day, I mean as many times as I please in one day // week // whatever. For example, the Ranger has a quest where you run 3 HE's and he gives you 10 Adventerer's Shards once completed...this is a daily... Make it so I can run it over and over for 10 Adventerer's Shards a pop until my eyes bleed.
ALSO the HE's should be able to be run for 150 Influence per HE. As of right now after 5 HE's you get no more Influence per toon. Make it so I can just farm this stuff and be able to upgrade my guild. I know I am not the only person who is struggling to upgrade their guild solely because the cost is astronomical when compared to the player health // game retention in the state it currently is in.
**Something** has to be done please I am begging you!! As of right now, to give another example, if I want to upgrade to the next rank (we are halfway through SH18 and moving to SH19) I would need roughly 50K Adventerer's Shards and around the same for Heroic Shards. 10 a day from the Ranger is not cutting it. PLEASE HELP !!!!!!
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I've been playing Neverwinter every single day for over 4 years and I can count the days on my hand I've missed my SH quests. I just want to be done with it and be able to PLAY ACTUAL CONTENT. When is enough...enough?
@percemer
Dear developers, nobody is asking you to reprogram the Stronghold now. But how hard can it be to lower the cost of an upgrade? Just halve them or at least increase the rewards! 400 influence per day - 800 at the guild event - is not enough!
The costs were set up for a full(ish) guild to pay. I've been dealing with doing one guild solo for years. The alliance I am in helps foot the bills. And I've got one active player helping now. Yes, it's a slog. I wish they'd do something about the costs as well, because with the game reworks the boons aren't all that big a deal.
You can still do it for dread ring and icewind dale, but only for their own voucher type.
Influence rewards should go up too, in addition to the AS. These rewards were meant for guild who had 150 active members all the time. We don't have that kind of player base any more.
Thank you for your suggestions!
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I think making the upgrade cheaper isn't the answer so I like giving players more options to fill the coffers. I personally have little trouble with Shards and Influence, but campaign currencies should definitely include the latest campaigns in some shape or form. Having to go back to Sharandar is just a horrible experience for example. Tyranny is fine since M23 and at least you get the added benefit of legacy campaign completion for Dread Ring and Icewind Dale.
Also let's up the vouchers from the Siege event again? I'm not sure why they were nerfed anyway, but now that some guilds are left alone on an island it would at least be a decent catch-up mechanic again.
Even better would be to add the incentive to help smaller guilds within alliances. Like if players donate to smaller guilds there should be an added benefit.
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They could be so much more…
The guild/stronghold system is very outdated and should have been updated as the game progresses. For example, when the leveling system changed, the "experience bonus" and experience boon should have been changed as well… Hell they doesn’t even seem to apply to progress rewards, hmm…
Why can’t multiple recruiters be called in?
Also ALL campaign currency should be “cofferable”.
It's funny how for years more and more things like bugs and apparent "oversight" by the devs keeps looping back around to bolstering the inclination for players to spend money...
If the math is correct, 50k of each Shard of Power type is 150k ZEN, which is over $1300 (less if discounted). If opening the Stronghold Chest of Power during the 2x Shards of Power grants 200 instead of 100 then the total would be 75k ZEN, which is over $600 (less if discounted). This is probably why Shard of Power quests would not be made repeatable by 1 character. If anything, knowing how Cryptic has done in the past, if stronghold quests were made repeatable they would probably INCREASE the upgrade costs to “balance” it.
When Mod 23 (Dragonslayer) came it was nice that the chromatic elemental strands could be used in place of Treasures of Tyranny though it doesn’t make much sense that something “chromatic” is only usable for one thing (should at least be usable in place of Frozen Treasures (white/ice dragon), Dark Gifts (black dragon) and Fey Trinkets (green/poison dragon) as well).
As far as upgrade cost discounts, currently alliances can help a lot depending on the level of the alliance and the position of your guild (Helm > Sword > Gauntlet).
Helpful Events for Guilds
2x Shards of Power
2x Influence
2x Currency: Legacy Campaigns
2x Currency: Dread Ring
2x Currency: Icewind Dale
Increased Elemental Strands
2x Guild marks
Guild mark costs discounted
(possibly more, don’t remember/can’t see others on the upcoming event schedule)
The above events can shave months or more off upgrade time if utilized effectively.
A key thing here is “per character”. More characters allow the quests from the Cleric, Builder, Master of Coin and boon plots to be repeatable by a player.
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I'll ask it again at this point: How hard can it be to change a single number in a database? It takes less than a minute to turn a 400 into an 800 (influence) and double the value in the guild event.
The incentive is: if they do that, will they gain anything in the bottom line? If they do that, will they lose anything in the bottom line?
What would Cryptic gain for minimal effort? Satisfied and even new players.
The absurd costs for upgrading enchantments, insignia, mounts, companions, etc., scare off many players. I'm talking about players who 1. work, 2. have a family, 3. have other hobbies and 4. have a life outside of Neverwinter and therefore spend less time in a game. They may have to spend real money. And that's exactly the point. Cryptics management has never understood how to make (a lot of) money without having high prices.
I've been on the Discord server for ages. Let's see where and if I can get involved there. Thanks for your reply in any case.
This may seem ridiculous to some of you but I'd really like building costs lowered as well.
Even makine the costs scaleable to the amount of players in the guild might help!
All I'm saying is that the OP is right. It wouldn't hurt the devs to cut the small guilds some slack and lower the building costs, especially now there are so may level 20 guilds available.
It is not going to get better and it’s going to remain as miserable experience as ever. The Mysterious Merchant hasn’t updated EVER, How hard would that be to have something useful to spend guild marks on. Players mostly want to be in 20’s and even in active guilds, the majority don’t donate beyond gems and surplus equipment or professions.
And if an Alliance HAS a 20 in it, people will get their food and wards from there and not donate to the lowers to help them level.
Is what it is