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M25 NEW ENCHANTMENTS FEEDBACK (please change this)
aragon
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So the new double stat Enchantments with Module 25 will give at Mythic, +100 more Item Level than our current Enchantments! Going from 1,500 to 1,600. This means a total of +900 more Item Level across our 9 Enchantment slots!
For anyone who enjoys min-maxing in this game, this is a horrendous costly addition. It completely de-values our current Enchantments, as it now require us now to obtain a full set of the new enchantments to stay fully maxed! And even worse, those of us who took advantage of the generous Enchantment Account-Wide system, will now be left with a full set of useless Enchantments for min-maxing!
This has to change, it is an utter slap in the face to all of us who invested in the Mod 22 Enchants! We are now required to replace all of our current ones, costing at least 30 million Astral Diamonds, which values at about $400 via the exchange from Zen. And to make matters worse, many of us cannot offset that cost, because we trusted that the M22 Enchants would remain best (with the highest IL) for at least a few years, and bound them all with the exchange!
Please change this, and just increase the Stats on the M25 Enchants and reduce the Combined Rating. This still leaves an incentive to obtain them for minute stat optimization, but does not clearly show a flat power increase due to an Item Level increase!
Alternatively, introduce an option to spend some time and resources to "side-grade" our current enchantments to these new ones. This "side-grade" being account wide for each enchantment!
For anyone who enjoys min-maxing in this game, this is a horrendous costly addition. It completely de-values our current Enchantments, as it now require us now to obtain a full set of the new enchantments to stay fully maxed! And even worse, those of us who took advantage of the generous Enchantment Account-Wide system, will now be left with a full set of useless Enchantments for min-maxing!
This has to change, it is an utter slap in the face to all of us who invested in the Mod 22 Enchants! We are now required to replace all of our current ones, costing at least 30 million Astral Diamonds, which values at about $400 via the exchange from Zen. And to make matters worse, many of us cannot offset that cost, because we trusted that the M22 Enchants would remain best (with the highest IL) for at least a few years, and bound them all with the exchange!
Please change this, and just increase the Stats on the M25 Enchants and reduce the Combined Rating. This still leaves an incentive to obtain them for minute stat optimization, but does not clearly show a flat power increase due to an Item Level increase!
Alternatively, introduce an option to spend some time and resources to "side-grade" our current enchantments to these new ones. This "side-grade" being account wide for each enchantment!
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I agree though that this isn't optimal. I have most of my enchantments bound because I try to maintain characters of all roles (dps, healer, tank). It severly hurts alt play that the system was introduced to help with. So this clearly gets a thumbs down, although I realize there might not be a good way to fix it. I also do not like the game design aspect of it. You're introducing three enchantments that completely render the current ones obsolete. The way characters can be balanced nowadays there won't be many situations in which the new enchantments don't fit a build. So the "old" ones go straight to the trash can.
You obviously aren't forced to upgrade, 900 item level equals slightly over 1% damage increase, which isn't that much tbh.
- JailBreak (in development)
The new double stat enchants already make it easier to balance and cap stats, and therefore makes them desireable. What is the big deal with just making them 1500 IL like the single stat ones.
We have already lost so many experienced end game players who made this game fun and gave us something to aspire to, because of the last bullsh*t rework. All this move will do is make the next group of end game players quit.
I refuse to have all my nice shiny mythic enchants made second-rate after having recently pumped in stacks of Coal Wards to upgrade them.
Not long before this new Mod 25 city will be a ghost town.
One way to fix this is with same IL but reduced combined rating and funnel that into the two stats.
I play that game from years and getting slaps like that in face each time when they announce new module ?
When i get R15 enchantments on full on my main tank, you change totally system for it...
It was a great add to bound enchantments but for account wide.
It's help for my alts which was a big help for me playing more characters.
Now i see you really don't know what you are doing...
Just take what we throw away few modules ago and add again with highier IL ...
That doesn't make sense and it's TO EARLY !
MAKE OLD ENCHANTMENTS SAME IL AS NEW ONE !
Beacuase of work i can't play now everyday, only on weekends
I just can't help it and thinking of quit game
I don't want to because is great game with awesome potential but all of that awesome " changes" ehh...
Feel conflicted about this because progression is fine. It's the total reset that's not.
Then I listened to my inner idiot and thought, no, they wouldn't just completely screw over the players that bad.... again. But, inner voice was right. Get ready for millions upon millions of ad to get all new enchants, even if the current ones we have weren't bound, they wouodnt be worth much after. So complete waste of time and ad, yet again.
Well, i guess we just buckle up and let cryptic ride our HAMSTER for more money.
Then get ready for the same thing whwn triple stat enchants come around, then insignias next and God knows what else they can think up after, cause if this happens the floodgates are loose and the game is going ro loose another large section of the population to exodus from this ss.
I don't even know what to say to try and mend this idea, it honestly puts me and most people I talk to on the last leg of the nw journey. I guess its time to move on honestly. Wish I could say its all been good, but honestly all the costly rework money grabs back to back and now this... The future looks bleak.
For newer players, having access to dual stat enchants from the get-go allows for more flexibility as you progress through the game like you mentioned in your video.
In terms of the game as a whole, I think this is really great as this will be a giant AD sink. That is really important for the health of the Neverwinter economy. The Zax backlog on PC has decreased significantly due to AD sinks, but it still takes around 9 months to convert AD to Zen. People needing AD to make upgrades (including purchasing upgrade components like C-Motes) should make a significant dent in the Zax backlog. What is not to like about that?
For those complaining about this being a "cash grab," well, OK. So what? Cryptic is a for profit company. They exist to make money. Without money, there is no game. I don't know why that is so hard for some of you to understand. It isn't like they can pay their employees and other bills in Astral Diamonds. If you can't wrap your head around that simple fact, then I challenge you to find any large scale game on the market that doesn't have the end goal of making money.
-SINCERELY Rebelbass75 or Nora Rebel in ps4 game.
After further review I still think this is a bad idea. However, after looking at the new enchants closer, I find my opinion will not be a popular one. I think the new enchants need reduced in item level by 20 to stay in line with current ones. I also think the stat contribution needs to be reduced by 15 and the combined rating by 12. This would place them in line with the current enchants we already have in game. Edited 9 Feb 2023 0957 EST
Besides, this isn't even an AD sink, they are going to release the fancy new enchantments into the zen store like they always do, bolstering zen's value, literally worsening the state of the zax...
I'm not sure this is possible though because you would need to make sure that all character-bound enchantments that were claimed with the exchanged enchantment are properly stripped from the account. Think this is one of the technical limitations that the devs said the system would definitely encounter over time. But then even if some characters walk around with single-stat enchantments that they shouldn't technically be able to own... It's not that big of a deal imho.
Helping the min-maxers with their stats will IS INCENTIVE ENOUGH for many people to get the new enhancements.
If there will be new enchantments with 1600 IL without any possible way to change our old Enchants, i quit, this is not the way to make changes in game, not like freaking this.
This is especially true for the streamers who make cash from videos of this game, then complain the game that supports them won't give them more free stuff.
The game supports you. Why don't you support the game?
This was inevitable. If you bound your enchants, WTF did you think would happen? There would never be better? Did you expect free trade ins for life?
Wake up and smell the wards.
This is a for profit business. They have to sell SOMETHING.
You want them to keep the same item level on enchants? For how long? Forever? Or just until/unless you can obtain them for free?
It was obvious that binding your enchants and having them on EVERY character on your account MUST come at a cost.
Well, now you see. This is it.
This is not the first time. This will not be the last time.
I suggest you don't bind your new enchants. I personally won't be buying them. I'm waiting for the inevitable triple stat stones.
Adapt and overcome.
All your base are belong to Cryptic.