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Why does NW (and other MMORPGs) have 'upside down' bags?
drartwhodent
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In the Real World (TM), when you put an item into a bag, it goes down to the bottom, or on top of whatever is in the bag already. It does not get 'stuck' at the top of the bag.
Why do our bags in the game fill from the top down then?
Is it lazy programming?
Is it just because 'everyone else does it that way'?
I realize that if it got changed now, we would hear the complaints from the stratosphere, simply because people complain when things change.
It is illogical the way it is now tho.
I do not argue for items to drop to lower bag - unless your top bags are full of course - you put stuff in the bag on top yes, but, logically the stuff should start filling the bag from the bottom up.
My 2 coppers.
Why do our bags in the game fill from the top down then?
Is it lazy programming?
Is it just because 'everyone else does it that way'?
I realize that if it got changed now, we would hear the complaints from the stratosphere, simply because people complain when things change.
It is illogical the way it is now tho.
I do not argue for items to drop to lower bag - unless your top bags are full of course - you put stuff in the bag on top yes, but, logically the stuff should start filling the bag from the bottom up.
My 2 coppers.
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99 bottle of potion is not the same size of 1 bottle of potion.
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'Real world' bags don't have have 24 slots in them that you can put any item of any size and weight in and not worry about it.
'Real world' bags don't fill up when you put X very tiny items in them.
As for game bags, I put all my stuff in order in the bottom of the bags, and I leave empty space at the visible part of the bag (the top is the most visible when you open a bag) for 'new stuff' to drop. If bags worked like Tetris and new items fell to sit on top of the things at the bottom, then
1) I wouldn't see them when I open my bag and it defaults to showing me the top and
2) I'd have to carefully check each time to see where 'new items' ended and 'my sorted items' began.
This is another one of those, it has to be more real than real threads. My wife is like that, she wants to fetch her mount from a physical stable and not to have it poof under her. I would find it very annoying to have to return to where I left my mount to gather it.
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The bags fill up as you loot like an "occidental" would read the page of a book. First loot in the first upper left spot available. It's usually easier to find what you have looted lately in this way rather than from the bottom right to the upper left, especially if your inventory is bigger than one screen height.
Because i tend to organize my bags (one 36slot bag is stocking one item theme, ex : a bag for buff consummables, a bag for quest items or alike, a bag for trinkets/enchants/alternative equipmements) with the first bag always empty at the begining of a session.. I like the way that the first thing i loot fall in the first uper left corner available of my inventory, so at any point of my session I can quickly (though manually) sort all the things i found.
I think if drops would went in loot order from bottom right to upper left in my bags, I would be utterly confused and probably unable keep playing because of my inventory OCT tendencies ^^, and don't think i could get used to the reverse style even after years.
If I draw a grid, and ask you to fill each square with a cross as fast as you can, would you start upper left to end bottom right, bottom right to end upper left, random and chaotic ?
So, when you throw something to your inventory, the newest item is fitted to the slot that is the least likely to force you to scroll down. Just convenience.
In the real world:
• You don't get to ride around on legendary mounts that include butterfly swarms, metallic horses, witches brooms, etc
• You don't get to pop a bank vault out of your butt cheeks and store your loot in it to transfer to your alternate personalities
• You don't keep 5 slaves (ie companions) locked up god knows where to steal their powers/stats from
• You're not wearing armor, you don't have enchants, you just don't exist because you are a fantasy character in a game being played by a human that thinks the way bags fill up is a pivotal issue
It just hit me as a curiousity.
I like to keep my top bag empty to start too. With bottom bags filled with themed contents also.
My 'pivotal issue' is more along the lines of "Please give us more bag slots as well as bigger bags instead of just bigger bags for sale"
While I always crave more space, I am not going to buy a new bag to replace a Dragon Hoard bag.
I already have a couple/three smaller 'excess' bags in my bank.
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Also to add to the above, the top to bottom filling is more beneficial on empty bags (completely new or organized players who will move the items from the top to wherever they want them), and the bottom to top will aid more messy players who just leave items, so eventually their items will be on top, hence found fast looking from top to bottom.
For more information, look up for eye tracking research done in UI design.