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I feel like every time an update is done the game is slower for me. Especially if there's another player near me. It used to be about a 3 second delay in all the actions but now there are times when it's more like 11 seconds. This makes it impossible for me to join a party, fight anything or do a dungeon. Its not even worth the effort for me to try to play during peek hours when I would like. I'm not sure whose fault this is but my computer hasn't changed since the last few updates. If there's any ideas to speed this up, I am open to try anything. I won't pay anymore into the game until I can use it more reliably. Very frustrating and disappointing.
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Are you sure all your drivers are up to date? A Windows update can roll back some graphics drivers and spoil performance.
Disk Clean up is a daily must do
Disk Defrag is a daily do
Remove unwanted apps and programs from your pc.
A "3 second delay on all actions" so if you went to use a daily you would press the button and have to wait for 3 seconds before the animation and attack started? And now its 11 seconds?
That's a serious lag problem by the sound of it which needs investigating via a traceroute/ping to Neverwinter servers which hopefully someone else can help you with.
But even so a 3 second delay, let alone an 11 second delay is insanely bad 100101010000111 connection?
If it was really 3 seconds and you didn't experience rubber band, the chance is your system such as your graphic card not fast enough. The game allows your system to display more ahead of updating the server. If the server cannot catch up (such as because of network connection issue), you get rubber band.
If it was not really 3 seconds, forget what I said.
By the way, did you update your graphic card driver?
for example,
You run towards (say) Knox. You run half a court already and suddenly you are bounced back to where you started.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rubberbanding
Use Task Manager to see what is using up system resources.
You also need at least 1gb of free memory to run Neverwinter properly. Probably 4gb memory in total to run Windows etc as well.
I used to run the game in a windows 7 gaming laptop (I used the laptop as a desktop with dual monitor).
After my laptop died recently, I finally set up the windows 10 gaming desktop I bought long time ago.
I can tell you, windows 10 with Neverwinter uses more memory. (I am not saying Neverwinter itself uses more memory in win10 but the combination does).
The task manager of windows 10 can tell you the load of your graphic card (at least mine does).
Control Panel > Network and Internet > Network and Sharing and click on Change adapter settings on the left-hand side.
This opens a list of all available networking devices. You’ll be connected to the internet either via a wired Ethernet port or via a Wi-Fi adapter. Depending on your setup, right-click the internet-connected device and select Properties.
Highlight the option titled Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) and click Properties. Navigate to the Use the following DNS server addresses option.
In this area enter the following IP addresses, depending on which DNS provider you want to use.
Once entered, click OK to save these settings. You’ll be returned to the Properties menu. From here, select Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) and click Properties. You can now repeat the process for IPv6 DNS servers.
If there issues with lag still, your internet equipment is extremely old. Use cat6 ethernet cables also.
How to find your internet provider DNS. Yes CMD line will tell you. Without setting your DNS inputs, you will constant intermittent issues with lost data packets being sent.
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/ip-address-isps-dns-servers-49160.html
Neverwinter client connects to IPs not to domains except for the patch server. DNS servers have absolutely nothing to do with this. And even if Neverwinter client would have used domain names, those are only used to get IP, and have absolutely nothing, nada, zero, to packet loss or lag.
just ignore what you just stated. Seriously I always have to explain more than I have to.
Has this happened to you?
Well with DNS telling where data needs to go (your computer), the data is translated efficiently. I will explain further.
First of all, who is providing your internet service? Your internet provider's DNS! The Domain Name System (DNS) is the phone book of the internet. Web browsers interact through Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. DNS translates domain names to IP addresses so browsers can load internet resources. Each device connected to the Internet has an unique IP address, which other machines use to find the device.
So you tell me I don't know nothing? If you have slow connectivity or due to some other issues your browser, you may have DNS errors and may not be able to connect to the host. The DNS Probe Finished No Internet error generally occurs because DNS cache load fails when you try access the web page or data packets.
Low signal from the router, yet limited access with no DNS set. Ever had the problem of the internet acting like a public network, instead of home network? It's because you don't have DNS set. The computer and router is getting confused what's being sent. Out of experience a signal drops, simply because it's overloaded by trying to send information to the computer over time! Make more sense now? The router will less forgive up with a DNS set. I'm just stating how setting DNS changed my life for gaming, because it's helps some to most degree!
The funny thing is that sometimes I can hold on the game's data even during a slight power outage intermittent flicker and still in game when about to almost lose all electrical power from power outlets. Also if I'm lucky, the game might still act like I'm still in game and move around freely (Note: I can't do much). It's because the data is translated so well before, it acts like I'm still on the server, when technically I'm not. The game responds for awhile, until the server knows I'm not there. So even with the complete no electric power for 1 second, I might have a chance to remain on the server, depending how fast my router and cable modem boots up. My internet provider (DNS) acts as a saved memory so I'm not knocked off game, if I'm lucky; has happened to me a few times. It's magic and I'm not lying that's the power of DNS! Setting DNS makes the router understand where to send by translating information a lot faster to send to your computer. DNS is in fact your essential phone book for computer's internet! How can I explain this? Having DNS set during power outage, the internet boots up quicker. Without DNS set, loading of data will stall for a bit before everything is in order. This is what I noticed, after my router/modem has booted up again by the difference.
How the internet works Internet Provider Server + router (set your dns) + internet adapter (set your dns)=translating data from internet provider dns server to give you your INTERNET EFFICIENCY ACCURACY!
Oh sure your internet will connect, but I will tell you from experience, the internet will be more stable majority of the time by setting the DNS to tell where information needs to go. Without DNS by not telling where the data should go, you will have lag! Now I can't guarantee, yet technically it helps a lot! I have tested the difference and even when my router shows good signal, yet having intermittent issues, you have lag by not setting DNS! I won't guarantee how it works for everyone, yet I will state the improvement helps with being more stable during gameplay. I have less turning off my router for 10 seconds and resetting my cable modem.
You can simply use Google DNS. In a nutshell, OpenDNS, Google DNS reduce the time taken to resolve the domain name on the web and make the internet faster in the process. Obviously, it won't increase the maximum available bandwidth for your connection. Moreover, they are more reliable than the default ones used by your ISP depending on your location. Though I would use internet provider service over Google because don't live in California.
I will make the statement, does DNS improve internet speed? Yes and no. However, setting DNS will in fact help with the translating of data, which in term might reduce the lag. I will mention all my skills work to cast instantly, but I can't hit enemies when my internet goes crazy and needs to be reset-LOL. How's that for DNS? That's my experience.
AGAIN and to explain this bit further.
What is a DNS?
A Domain Name System is a database that translates the user-friendly host names that we use to browse the Internet into a numerical format understood by computers, known as IP addresses. Typically you see 198.168.1.1 or 198.168.0.1 on your router's browser. I just added 192.168.1.1(two numbers after the 1) for security. 192.168.1.125 for example.
DNS is an integral part of how the internet works, as it allows users and hosts to utilize more memorable DNS names rather than having to use a website's IP address to access a website.
How does DNS work?
When an user wants to access data (webpage or game data), they enter the address (or DNS name) into their browser's address bar; game translation happens automatically for you in this case. This information is then sent in the form of a 'DNS query' to their Internet Service Provider's (ISP) DNS servers. Every ISP has a database of DNS names and their corresponding IP addresses. If an user's initial query can be answered using this directory, an 'authoritative' answer is sent to the user's computer so they can connect with the website or game server in this case.
If the ISP directory is unable to answer the initial DNS query authoritatively (intermittent issues), then its next step would be to check its cache. A server's cache holds a record of all other previous queries. If it can answer an user using information from the cache, then it will still answer but with a 'non-authoritative' answer. This means that the information you're being supplied with isn't directly from your ISP's directory, but from a third party (game server) and the information has some well translation to be sent.
So even if your query still can't be really answered well, then the DNS query process will use recursion. This is when your ISP's DNS survey uses the information it has on other authoritative servers in its root hint files to contact and get the information you need. Once an ISP has requested this information, it is sent to an user's computer, where a connection is formed. The ISP server then stores that information in its cache, which can be then accessed for future queries.
How can DNS affect your Internet speed?
Although DNS is not directly related to your internet speed, it can influence how fast an individual webpage appears on your computer or in a game's case-the data from the game. Once a connection has been established though, it should not affect download speeds.
What I'm applying is that the game's data will hold better so that your animations will still be in check and surroundings during intermittent issues, until no connection is established. I might seem delusional, though out of my experience when my internet acts up, my animations work instantly, since it's applied in the cache from the DNS memory stored already to actually work. I'm skeptical, but researching this, I guess it really helps to set DNS to have better translation of data being sent.
DNS is what holds the data memory (internet provider). Does that make sense? I know it's weird, but technically I'm still transmitting data from my router efficiently, even when the router acts up a bit on my bandwidth. I can't simply hit any enemies or go to a new location, if that makes sense? Yet, with DNS, I'm receiving the data more efficiently based on my mbps speed at given moment and I'm about to lose connection because of interference. This why I set my DNS inputs!
Without DNS, it's like this. Oh sure I will have connection, yet where is the data going when my connection acts up and how will that data translate with slight signal from a router? Kinda broken up at times.
DNS just helps makes sure that data is translated if the signal is becoming intermittent, if that makes sense?
It's not easy explaining this. Though I hope I enlightened through my experience of actually solving your internet issues, because I used to have serious lag with gaming many years ago by not setting my DNS. Without DNS, the router more often will be overloaded over time and give up more to be turned off for 10 seconds for reboot.
Without DNS-111,111,111 x 111,111,111 will be
1.23456789876532e+16, yet truly with DNS it's like...
FOR SOME REASON DNS just acts like a storage of information from your provider and that information will hold a lot better on your side with queries of information.
Without DNS. The internet information just stalls with even the slightest intermittent interference.
With DNS-bandwidth issues.
I'll try it in a very very simple terms, the game launcher has a list of IP addresses the game connects to, then the instance manager server sends new IP address per players zoning to connect to.
Key operative word here, is IP Addressees, not host names. In not part of this process there is a DNS query. Capish?
In general once IP connection established, for example TCP / IP, DNS has not function what so ever on the connection speed, neither lag nor packet loss.
The game is not a web page that needs to load.
This is completely false:
This is even more completely wrong:
The router holds a NAT table, it has nothing to do with DNSs, the simple home router in general doesn't do anything dns related at all.
You will not get disconnected because the game uses TCP IP and TCP IP has timeout, if you send a packet and it is received before the timeout, you will not get disconnect on that layer.
I mentioned it and guess what...the hotel thanked me.
I had a time where a Brazilian DC a lot and the casts were terrible. I instructed him how to set his DNS and he cast all his skills with no delay.
My experiences tell me otherwise you should take my advice!
If you simply have some intermittent issues, you have some mbps. So technically you still have data waiting for you by communicating with DNS (internet provider by input) to load the data.
Without setting the DNS, you will have stalls.
5:28 it discusses this. DNS cache refers to the temporary storage of information about previous DNS lookups on a machine's OS. I know exactly what I'm stating! Without setting this, you won't have the advantage of staying on the server with interference issues.
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So you tell me bud. Perhaps I should refresh the results, but clearly that's how DNS works for you. I'm receiving packets just fine!
...and if you state the router has no DNS input...well think before you type. Why do I always deal with you, when you clearly like to argue with people?! I'm trying to help. Yet time and time again people always ignore their DNS, therefore they have signal issues, because the data being sent has no idea where to go. So simply the router wants to struggle and shut down without DNS input being so confused after some time. My experiences tell me that I've seen a stability improvement setting the DNS from my ISP on my internet adapters and router!
I'm not going to argue with your stated logic. If I stated something slightly wrong in context, I apologize. However, researching how DNS works, the internet has informed me for my logic. Also from my experiences in gaming, I know setting DNS has given me a huge impact on my gameplay performance! So don't tell me I'm wrong through experience, until you test it yourself! I'm just stating my stories when rare moments of interference or intermittent moments with a power outage. I guess my router is set really well. I can't guarantee my results. Yet, I know the improvement of having less lag when something is set right, which is the router and internet adapters with DNS inputs! So I'm just going to redirect helping the person in need and just ignore you!
@micky1p00
Besides you don't even read what I stated. (I can't do much!) Yet sometimes my skills cast perfectly and I can run around freely; depends on connectivity. I can't go to a new location, I can't respond to NPCs, yet my character is there. I can run around sometimes when the microwave is going when I'm about to lose internet connection with intermittent/interference issues. I'm stating my character just runs in place for a long time completely with no internet and for some reason setting the DNS allows me to stay on the server longer, if that makes sense to you? It's because I have some information of data in the DNS cache stored as translation! I had my sister when she is around at the house or in town with me, have the microwave going and I remained on the server for 2 minutes just running in place. I'm not kidding! This is what DNS does for you! I was never knocked off the game and remained on the game, once my router/modem rebooted back up for signal. It's instant!
SO WHY HAVEN'T YOU SET IT YOURSELF?! Oh because you don't know, so instead you just laugh! Why do we have a DNS flush or even DNS cache in the first place? Does anything relate for your understanding?
Hence, after the program connected with the designed port of that IP address, the program does not need DNS service again.
So, losing DNS service before establishing the socket means you cannot connect. i.e. no game network performance to talk about at all.
After the program connected, it does not need DNS service anymore. The DNS server can just go down after that without losing any game network performance. Hence, DNS server is irrelevant once the socket connection is done. i.e. more or less after you login to the character.
For web browser, DNS service is very important for performance because it has to keep on looking for IP address of new host name of new web site. For gaming, it would be bad programming if it has to keep asking DNS server for information. It should be done only once when the program starts.
The person having the problem is most likely having a DNS issue, because the data is being confused, which is causing stress on the router/modem. That's your resolution. Trust me, once I set my internet DNS on my router and internet adapters, doing so changed my life for gaming! It's because someone told me! A gamer friend from my past and I'm just passing it on.
I set up DNS server before internet was commercialized and have been doing client server programming in the last 20 years.
And, still debugging/fixing/configuring DNS server once a long while.
There is no "data confusing" once the IP address is set.
What you describe may be routing issue but it has nothing to do with DNS server/service.
The main and the most important service of your router is "routing". Hence, rebooting router helps.
If the program is operating through IP address (instead of host name), you don't even need DNS server.
Even if the programmer was dumb and keeps on asking for the IP of the same host name, it usually still does not involve the DNS server more than once. Windows OS DNS service cache the answer. The DNS server of the router cache the answer. Its upstream DNS server cache the answer and do on. They all keep the answer for (typically) more than an hour. Hence, for this game, once it is started and even if the programmer was dumb, it won't involve the DNS server frequently.
I have stable connection too and I do not even reset my router for years. My router is plugged to UPS (hence, it is not reset during power failure).
You can run:
nslookup
in your command prompt.
You type: google.com
It tells you the ip addresses.
You should talk to your friend again because I don't think you learned everything from him.
Your PC DNS is your router. The DNS of your router is your ISP's. The DNS of your ISP is something upstream.
Your OS is already doing caching. Every DNS server does caching.
If the program involves connecting to one or just few stable servers, DNS performance does not give you anything after the first inquiry.
Browser program is not the same as your game. Browser program does need good DNS performance.
If you want to try, after you login to the game, intentionally mess up your router DNS setting to see what happens.
Let the man/woman setup the DNS if that person hasn't done so. It will alleviate some issues to be more stable for internet and I'm ending with that statement.
I think we are arguing DNS server causes rubber band and/or "data confusion". No, it does not.
it will not help the game online longer once the game is already on line.
Once it is online, you can mess up your DNS setting and the game will still continue as if nothing happens.
DNS server does not contribute anything to the data transfer (or "translate"). It is NOT involved with the data in any shape or form at all.
The source of all my internet is my ISP DNS server and you should know that for even yourself in your case with your ISP DNS! Really my rear is falling asleep for sitting so long. I'm afraid you lost my points of what I'm trying to explain here. So please stop. It's worth the assistance that has helped me. Please allow me to help. Appreciate it.
Yes, it will be faster for DNS inquiry. However, we are talking about 1 or few inquiry when the game starts.
We are talking about micro seconds difference. So faster DNS service will give you faster start up time in micro seconds (if the game does not use IP address directly).
So, overall, the effect of DNS service for this game is about micro seconds difference when the game starts.
You need DNS service. I never say you don't. Yes, DNS service is critical WHEN you need to CONNECT to some system.
Note that: "when you need to connect". Not AFTER the game is connected.
Rubber band, lag, etc are all happened AFTER the game is connected. DNS service cannot help AFTER the game is connected.
All the DNS server can go to sleep AFTER the game is connected and the game can continue without problem.
DNS is your internet! As I stated, it's your phonebook for the internet!
I'm stating that applying ISP DNS server inputs on your internet adapters and router is ideal. Otherwise without setting DNS, overload stress on the router will or might happen dealing with those data packets to any computer device. It's because the router and computer doesn't know where data is coming from and it's searching for a network (my comcast internet service-your internet service provided) without DNS. I had issues with intermittent issues before, which caused me DNS no probe or simply no internet connection! Limited access and no access to the internet! So you're applying me as some person that doesn't know anything?! DNS inputs just help the routing on where the data packets are coming from; the internet service to (my computer-your computer as in your case from your ISP)!
You could port-forward the game server if you wanted to. Yet, I'm not that savvy on setting that up. I do have a sense how I solved my lag problems because a past gamer friend helped my issue. My internet is more stable too. Again, a gamer friend helped me and I'm sharing my experience! Why be so toxic? These forum responses are indeed childish and is so facepalm for someone like me giving great advice for someone to try, if they haven't setup their DNS inputs.
Grow up! I'm about to report someone for being harassing, when this topic is just trying to help someone's issue.
I will state my internet boots up or establishes a connection to my computer faster after an outage, because my router instantly finds my ISP DNS server for my internet service connection! Before my router took more time to search for my ISP. So why are we arguing?! Shessh.
https://whatismyipaddress.com/switch-dns
Yet, I'm fine with my ISP DNS server.
It's not easy to explain as a whole. I will be typing more than I have to. If the OP still has issue, I suggest a cat6 ethernet cable and not wirelessly. Yet, you will still have DNS issues without setting up DNS on the router. Because sometimes your ISP is difficult to deal with the traffic to even ask for a request. Setting ISP DNS just adds an extra gateway by setting it on the router.
If you will pay attention to my earlier pictures, you will realize how dramatic packets are recieved with few requests. That's DNS cache my friends!
The only thing why perhaps changing the DNS, rather than ISP DNS is for translation of protocol for perhaps less stall and it makes it easier on ISP's side to send to any router then computer device (the computer). So technically the ISP server has less work for encrypting, which only gives the pleasure of your bandwidth provided from your ISP.
The DNS cache only stores the information of IP address and other meta information of the host and domain. It does not cache data. It does not help data transfer between server and client. It is not its job. You are mixing up things.
Check the video you posted and try to understand how it works. Or, find your friend and show him this thread. Hopefully, he can explain that to you.
Using your phone book analogy: after you get the phone number of Mr. Smith from the White Page, you call Mr. Smith. Somebody takes the White Page away from you. Will your call to Mr. Smith disconnect or bad voice quality over the phone? At the moment you are talking to Mr. Smith, is the White Page useful to you?
DNS: phone book.
Game Client program: you
Game server: Mr. Smith
Connection: the phone call between you and Mr. Smith
I wouldn't attempt to put Windows 10 and this game on anything running less than a 8 GB RAM on the mother board. During my tests, I have been able to get it to run on a PC with only 2 GB of RAM and a 1 GB Nvidia this last week. Not that it was anything amazing to look at or had the speed of Mercury either, but it did work and was playable. One trick I use is to reduce all GPU and CPU settings to minimum and slowly bring each setting up to find what your problem might be.
Everyone here seems to be thinking this is a network issue. If you are running Windows 7 or 8 could you please tell us about your hardware?
Example;
CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz
GPU Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series
RAM 8 GB
If you believe it is a network issue; go to https://www.speedtest.net and take a quick check of your network speed here.
Then "Change the Server" to San Jose, CA (this is close enough to where the game is stored) and repeat the test.
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I only use my ISP DNS, because I don't use their horrible equipment that probably has ISP DNS server information built in. I'm paying for their service though (the bandwidth), yet another DNS won't provide that. I had problems establishing a connection for internet; intermittent issue causing my lag and my signal transmit lost. Setting DNS on my router and internet adapters just alleviated the issue. Constantly my signal issues was only trying to search for a network. So I know I'm correct! Though my ISP DNS works just fine without stalls majority of the time. So again was just a network issue that caused lag for me, while gaming.
Upload speed (advantage on translation with DNS) not download speed or simply your bandwidth. I might be confusing you here? However, I'm describing how fast you receive that data (bandwidth). So I don't know exactly the terminology use to explain. I admit I'm not tech savvy, yet I have understanding how it works. So if I'm confusing you with how I explain, I'm on the same page as you. Some inform might be lost, but it's complicated. So knowing what actually helped me, why be so toxic?
This video explains how I'm applying my discussion.
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Oops I run on (giving elaboration-too lazy to edit on revision)...Yet how many times do I have to repeat myself?! It helped me, so I'm giving my experience to help. It's a forum for pete sake!
- check your hardware.
- check your software.
- check your network.
- then expand to outside issues.
If you are running "fairly old computer that isn't a gaming one" as Janet stated above, then you still have options. Please don't put the latest OS on an old PC believing it is going to help. DNS is one small factor in the bigger picture. Even if your ISP promised you high speed fiber optic transmissions, they are stating from their place of business to you. The rest of the world wide web is pretty much a crapshoot of DSL, cable, and wireless. You never know what Boris is running his server on in the Ukraine, and if he is slowing you down, then it might be a good idea to change network.PSN Zen AD Exchange - Forecasting Spreadsheet