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thefiresidecat
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we never hit cap. we never go over 500 but cap is raised and now we are at 530? why? I think some of hte richest must be manipulating the market. please roll it back to 500 we did not need a new adx cap. this is going to hurt us.
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Since 10 million < 34 million (never minding that's just a manipulation of the exchange rate and ultimately devalues AD...), we can conclude:
Too much work for me, since you can only list 25k Zen at the time, but there's money to be made if you're willing to put in the "work".
TLDR, let this run its course (unless you really need Zen), hopefully they will call it quits next week , but the best thing would be for us (at least Xbox) to get the cap back to 500...
Shout out to the whomever decided to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> up the ADX on the only platform that had a stable economy. YOU, the Devs said that raising the ADX cap was not a solution to the problem on PC back when YOU made the rough AD cap changes and took away salvaging! I can go back and find the post but what's the point? The damage is done and you know who you were that said that.
So why now was this a good idea? Our ADX was not a problem and fluctuated well with the ebs and flows of the game for events, sales and things like that. We have never had a problem and even when we hit 500, it never stayed that way for more than a few minutes.
We have been fine and moving up and down from 400 to maybe 480 for months on end. Now a day after the cap is raised we are at over 540 for no reason other than YOU raised the cap to 750.
There is no sale, there is no event. There is only the new cap YOU decided to go with on all platforms. Way to go! Good job! Oh and thanks for the big <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> you that you gave us!
and gee thanks cryptic for giving the ultra rich such a playground as this one. admittedly I have had fun with it this afternoon. it doesn't hurt the new comers to the game even a little. does it now???
fy da..
put it back to 500
The point is, there was no reason to raise our cap. Our economy was fine and we were the only platform that wasn't backlogged at max. Also, what did it do for PC? Absolutely nothing! Now it's backlogged at 750 which goes to show what the Devs said earlier, it would not fix the problem on PC!
Anyway, now it's just about playing the market and hoping it never hits the cap in here. The rich will get richer and I guess maybe this was the reason, people might spend money to sell the Zen for AD on the ADX.
I agree though it never should have been raised and I'd like it if they put it back where it was.
I enjoy playing the market game but as we know there was NO reason to raise our cap. hate to see it so high for no good reason.
Ahh well guess I'll cut back in my box popping for a bit n see how things shake out. 😬
The only half-rational reason I can come up with for doing this is to try and stop the PC practise of Zen Purchasers buying Zen with cash, using vouchers or sales to buy "stuff" with Zen and posting it on the AH to make more AD than if they sold it as 500:1.
I say "half-rational" because there might just be a flaw in that theory that I'm not going to mention in case people go "Oh... that's a way I could game the system too", but frankly I assume people will spot for themselves.
The way to make Zen and AD trade a viable market is to make each currency uniquely useful and desirable.
Make the Wondrous Bazaar a little more... wondrous... by putting cool new stuff in there that one can't buy with Zen, and maybe... and I know people will rage and get angry at this... maaayyybeeeee... consider changing some of the goods on the Zen market to make them so that they can't be sold on the AH.
But NOT Bound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know it's very popular to use sales and vouchers to flip stuff like Coal Wards and pets, (I do it myself) but if the market is so HAMSTER they need to resort to HAMSTER the entire X Box ADX, to grasp at a chance to mend the PC and PS markets then maybe it's worth looking at for the overall good of the game.
But before some Cryptic developer goes, "Oh... block Zen goods from AH sale... let's try THAT!" PLEASE note that that will only work if you do the hard creative work of coming up with NEW, interesting and exciting things to buy with AD, (not just more HAMSTER Refining Stones!!!!)
I'm just unsure about where it will settle, with the new cap being so high.
The volatility is entirely down to the manipulation of people who are worried about being able to afford Zen, by people who will never need to worry about being able to afford Zen. There is a word for those kind of people, but even if it got hamstered out, I would still probably get a ban for using it here!
I'm just lucky I bought a bunch on Monday...
From an implementation point of view, I think it's ridiculous that under any circumstance they think that a typical player being unable to generate enough new rAD in a week to buy 1000 Zen is an acceptable place for the game to be at. And while that;s not US yet, it's already where PC is at, and I imagine PS4 will follow shortly... their whales got ahead of this game when it launched so are well practised at it.
And if this does settle at a substantially higher mark than it was before the cap raise, the AH prices will increase accordingly, meaning those new and lower geared players, who seem to be at the front of the devs minds a far as the new game mechanics are concerned had better get used to using hard cash to buy Zen both to spend and to sell.
Because not only will they not be able to earn as many rAD in game as us old timers could in the past, things will also cost a lot more for them.
But I imagine new people having to spend more money to play catch up is not worrying anyone at Cryptic Towers...
Because of the inordinate amount of time they take to fulfill. (I heard 2 months to get your Zen is not unheard of.)
Some people will have been days or even hours away from getting to the front of the queue at 500:1 and now have to go to the back of the queue and pay 50% more for the privilege.
I'd be ready to weep in frustration if I was about to run out of VIP and that happened to me.
The very definition of "Customer Service".
I tell you... if it were me, my first reaction would certainly NOT be, "Ah well... I'll just have to buy some with cash then."
Yeah, its ironic that the only thing that it looks like will be successfully balanced by this Mod is something we really DON'T want.
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While we have been working on different AD sinks to help on that side of the economy, it was clear for a while that the ZAX exchange cap needed to increase to allow the exchange to flow more freely. We had been holding off on that step as we made some other AD based adjustments in the game first and now we were ready to take this step.
We will continue to work on the AD economy and the ZAX backlogs/fluidity on all platforms to get the exchanges working better. And while XBox did have the healthiest ZAX out of the three platforms, it was clearly trending towards hitting the cap before too much longer and so it made the most sense to adjust all at the same time as all of our other efforts to improve the AD economy will hit all platforms as well.
Playing the market/market manipulation is always possible in a system that isn't capped or very close to cap and as much as it can be frustrating for some players it is also a sign of a fluid market which is what most players want for their exchange.