New Journal and two quick addition requests

putzboy78 · August 2017

Love the new quest journal as it helps organize some of the madness.

Have to requests for improvements however,

1) Add a "Collapse All" option or default to a Collapsed version when opening. Having to collapse 20 quest locations and the scroll associated with it is just annoying.

2) Create a section for completed quests. Under the old model the one thing I could find easy was what needed to be turned in. It was always at the top of the journal. Now its a bit harder to find what I completed already. Example would be the Fight to the Finish quest. Is it under strongholds, general, if I did it in Icewind Dale does it show up under there. I can complete the quests in multiple zones and doing unrelated activities therefore identifying if it has been turned in is a bit more laborious than necessary.

beckylunatic · August 2017

There's a toggle option to display only quests that are ready to turn in. This literally does what it sounds like, showing only quests ready to turn in without making any attempt to group them. Works great.

I requested the option to collapse all quests (or have them default to collapsed instead of open) somewhere around here.

Thinking about it more, I guess I'd rather have open/closed categories be a preference that each character's journal settings can remember, as I'm sure there are players who prefer having them default to open.

@midnightlight#2361 @uimaven

putzboy78 · August 2017

beckylunatic said:
There's a toggle option to display only quests that are ready to turn in. This literally does what it sounds like, showing only quests ready to turn in without making any attempt to group them. Works great.

I requested the option to collapse all quests (or have them default to collapsed instead of open) somewhere around here.

Thinking about it more, I guess I'd rather have open/closed categories be a preference that each character's journal settings can remember, as I'm sure there are players who prefer having them default to open.

@midnightlight#2361 @uimaven

That toggle "Show Ready to Turn in Only" is a viable option, although it does require opening a new screen, closing the screen to review the completed, then opening a new screen to untoggle to get back to seeing what's available. It works, but I consider it a work-around for what used to be easy. Open the journal, all completed items were at the top of the list.

beckylunatic · August 2017

I agree it would be nicer to have this as a checkbox on the main page.

midnightlight · August 2017

Thank you for the suggestions! @uimaven has been working on a couple of additional features for the journal.

putzboy78 · August 2017

good news, thank you

beckylunatic · August 2017

I know that Janne also mentioned that it would be nice to be able to display with all collapsed but your current zone.

But, this would be easier to handle if we had the option to display everything collapsed without having to go through and close them all individually with each new session. Then it would be less fiddly to go in and open your current zone manually, and to swap them when travelling elsewhere. Depending on what's simplest to implement.

hirogarde · August 2017

putzboy78 said:
2) Create a section for completed quests. Under the old model the one thing I could find easy was what needed to be turned in. It was always at the top of the journal. Now its a bit harder to find what I completed already. Example would be the Fight to the Finish quest. Is it under strongholds, general, if I did it in Icewind Dale does it show up under there. I can complete the quests in multiple zones and doing unrelated activities therefore identifying if it has been turned in is a bit more laborious than necessary.

Just changing the color of the jewel (to a contrasting color) when completed would be easier to spot than a semi-transparent-slow-flashing-half-hidden "X." Adding in a flag (similar to Campaign journal) when a collapsed area has a completed quest would make them much easier to find.

midnightlight#2361 said:
Thank you for the suggestions! @uimaven has been working on a couple of additional features for the journal.

While additional features are being worked on... can you check the checkbox flagging. When you first log in, or accept a new quest, the Xs and checks aren't correct (e.g. quest is displayed, but an "X" appears in the box). It all clears up when you zone, so it's more of an annoyance when running multiple quests in the same zone.

beckylunatic · August 2017

hirogarde said:
Just changing the color of the jewel (to a contrasting color) when completed would be easier to spot than a semi-transparent-slow-flashing-half-hidden "X." Adding in a flag (similar to Campaign journal) when a collapsed area has a completed quest would make them much easier to find.

If you have a lot of quests scattered through a lot of zones, filtering them rather than relying on any type of visual indicator is likely more efficient. If you're doing various Stronghold tasks and campaign things that take you all over the world, quickly knowing where you need to go for stray turn-ins like Culling the Cultists is really helpful.

hirogarde said:
While additional features are being worked on... can you check the checkbox flagging. When you first log in, or accept a new quest, the Xs and checks aren't correct (e.g. quest is displayed, but an "X" appears in the box). It all clears up when you zone, so it's more of an annoyance when running multiple quests in the same zone.

I find that certain quests get "stuck" and can't be unchecked. Or sometimes they can be unchecked but only if I'm in a quest instance and not an open zone. I have one character where I know with absolute certainly that if I take the Argemius the Cyclops SH quest, my mission tracker will unfailingly point to that quest for eternity (or at least until I go kill the big lug). This is an alt where I might do a round of SH stuff once every few weeks, so I can be stuck with that displaying for a long time.

The tip about zoning to unlock quest selectability is helpful. I've found the mission tracker less helpful since the journal updates but I haven't written it up yet.

pitshade · August 2017

I don't know if it is related but there is a long standing (think Open Beta) bug where the quest tracker refuses to change from certain quests while grouped. There is also the Mod1 era bug where attempting to set certain quests as active in a group pops up a warning that *Quest* "cannot be shared." I won't go into what started that but the fix goes beyond what is necessary.

New Journal and two quick addition requests

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