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nimrosnimros Member Posts: 47 Arc User
So I made a second loadout for my CW (one is AOE, other is Single target for bosses). Being unable to change the loadouts anywhere except at campfires is too restrictive and removes a lot of the functionality. I just ran CN, changed to single target loadout for the first boss... Found I couldn't change back to AOE loadout until just before the second boss. That is, unless I run back to previous fire or kill myself, change loadout and then run back.
Why not make loadouts changeable anywhere/everywhere except in combat? Or able to change with an altar? Or even make it a VIP rank 12 perk that you can change loadouts anywhere except in combat? We can pray anywhere with VIP. If it stays the way it is I don't think I'll be using the loadouts as much as I had hoped.

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  • tycchoice#2111 tycchoice Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    With loadouts do you have to farm, restore, and vivify all new gear or does it transfer when you switch to a new loadout?
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  • nimrosnimros Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    Pretty sure everything transfers, unless you change the loadout when it's in use. Only thing I noted that didn't change was weapon enchant (dread, vorpal etc).
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User

    With loadouts do you have to farm, restore, and vivify all new gear or does it transfer when you switch to a new loadout?

    You can use the same gear. If you wanted to change enchants, you'd need a second set of gear to do that right now.
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  • dupeksdupeks Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User
    I think the OP here is pointing out that the new loadout mechanic doesn't play out as well because there are campfires before boss fights, but seldom after.

    So you run your AoE loadout up until the bossfight, switch to single target, burn the boss, and then you're stuck in single target loadout until the next campfire. You can either kill yourself, run back to the pre-boss fire, or suffer through the next open dungeon section in single target loadout until you hit another campfire.

    I agree this is kind of a nuisance and detracts from the potential benefit of loadouts. If I'm trying to optimize my build for boss fights in order to perform better, it's cruel to force me to backtrack after the fight, giving up any time I saved with my optimal build.

    Admittedly not a game-breaking issue, but worth bringing up as a legitimate complaint in my book.
  • dread4moordread4moor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    @dupeks
    "So you run your AoE loadout up until the bossfight, switch to single target, burn the boss, and then you're stuck in single target loadout until the next campfire. You can either kill yourself..."

    Having tried all the above, so far the solution is suicide!

    Hotkey/killme is working pretty well for me so far.
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  • dupeksdupeks Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User

    @dupeks

    "So you run your AoE loadout up until the bossfight, switch to single target, burn the boss, and then you're stuck in single target loadout until the next campfire. You can either kill yourself..."



    Having tried all the above, so far the solution is suicide!



    Hotkey/killme is working pretty well for me so far.

    Yep, I agree that is the most workable solution. I bind the command to F1 hee hee.

    But still you relinquish all of your non-persisting food items and any buffs you've accumulated (not a huge deal admittedly, but not a non-issue either)

    I guess it just runs contrary to what I consider the general intent of loadouts. If it's more hassle to switch back and forth around bosses than it is to just leave it, that's sad.

    In no way am I saying that loadouts are bad. For support classes they are a godsend. But for switching between AoE and single target within a run, they aren't as streamlined an experience.
  • samnugsamnug Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Do the alters work in swapping the load-outs?
  • dupeksdupeks Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    samnug said:

    Do the alters work in swapping the load-outs?

    Nope, campfires and non-combat maps only (PE, Mantol, Caer Konig, and inside your SH keep)

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