2000+ PoMs and nothing! this is HAMSTER! Why have the content and the items if no one ever HAMSTER gets them? Yes i am very very pissed off at this game tonight. Ive spent money, a lot of money. I demand straight answers from the god damn devs. Cowards! speak up! The entire community demands answers!!!!!!!!!!! We play the game because it is fun! HAMSTER like this is NOT fun! There are people out there with multiples and most of us have never seen one!! and lets not beat around the bush, to me rising power and crit are the only good ones! ive dont so many HAMSTER demos and edemos i lost count! im sure its the same if not more than 2k.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The entire community demands answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REAL ANSWERS! WE WANT A DEV TO SAY "ITS LIKE THIS AND THIS IS HOW THIS WORKS" AND SHOW US PROOF!
I can't imagine anyone who plays this game being satisfied with any of the loot drops.
CN +1/2 rings , Edemo/Ndemo +1/2 rings , Pom/TODG +1/2, Tiamat shard of lifedrinker and some garbage salvage loot Shores/Lostmouth garbage salvage/overload enchant.
It feels like I'm part of an experiment to see how long till I just quit , uninstall , which is sad because I truly like this game but constant disappointment wears on you day in and day out.
Well I can tell you it's not off money spent cause I spent a ton . And after 500-600 CN,800+ thrones 1000demos ,350 edemo ,800 Pom = nothing I did see one drop one time for this guy....once I honestly don't know why I farm for them besides it's really all I need for BiS and the fact I can pretty much get gold if I have one decent person in the pug . It it really seems silver or gold doesn't help or up the chances in any way that I've seen. The one that dropped was a bronze run
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The entire community demands answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not me, sry. I play since beta and i learned one thing: Devs never give answers to real probs. Devs never gave answers to the comm. I love this game, but i dont think theese devs like the community. sry. So i gave up to expect any answers.
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lantern22Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,111Arc User
I think the whole community would like better a drop ratio or at least a better chance to get the +5 ring of their desire, but I think 80% of us know we aren't going to get any answers.
I've got 2 +5 rings and I've been luck that both of them are useful to me, so I'm not complaining.
I've never grinded solely for the +5 rings. The two +5 rings I have I got were after the "improved" chest drops. Back then, it seem that someone got a +5 rings every two or three CN run, and sometimes multiple people in the same CN run got a +5 ring. Sadly the "improved" drop seem to have reverted a bit because I haven't seen a +5 ring drop for anyone lately.
1. "if no one gets them" and "There are people out there with multiples" - This is a contradiction. 2. "The entire community demands answers" - I do not. I know several more who do not. That is not the "entire" community. 3. You want the Devs to say how it is and to prove it - It is as it is. There is a dropchance of X%, resulting in some People being very lucky and dropping several of them in a short time, and in some People being very unlucky not seeing one in 2000+ runs. The prove ist what you yourself experience and state to be true. The devs already stated this several times for several dropchance-related questions.
Your behavior is "Hamster". Your arguments are "Hamster".
If you want to be taken serious, then give other people a reason to take you serious. Ask nicely. Be respectful. Use solid arguments. Be respectful. Do not exaggerate needlessly. Be respectful. If you speak for yourself, then speak only for yourself. Be respectful. Learn to accept and adapt. Be respectful. Do not abuse exclamation marks. Be respectful.
Before you ask: Yes, there is a hidden message for your sub-consciousness. No, I won't tell you, what the message is, because then it won't be hidden anymore.
There should be some currency like linu and twisted ichor for all hard to get things so you can at least get the thing you want by grinding it out. The twisted weapons seemed like the perfect balance, very rare drop but 20 gold runs (which were hard to come by at the time) guaranteed the weapons. Seems fair that 20 demo runs would let you buy a +4 of your choosing with some currency and 50-100 for a +5 of your choosing.
Same with the gambit, X number of runs and you can buy the thing you want, getting the combo of +X, type of equipment and stats you want are impossibly low.
i got three +5 rings in the last week 2 in Throne and 1 in Pom at least the last one had two offense slots all the rest were defense slots but still not the ones i need plus Zulkir Dreadnought armor from Valindra's Tower today this has been the like the first week after the change for me anyway
Still waiting my second Sudden Prec +4 after 300+ CN runs. Yup, only one +4 after all these runs. But, i've got a bunch of useless +5: impenetrability, vision, etc... So yes, drop rate might be better, but not for the rings all want
Yes, this reward system is really bad and irritating, totally understand the thread maker. I myself am at around 4000 demo runs, stopped counting after 3000 runs and that was few months ago, never saw +5 rising power or +5 brutality. I farmed PoM every single day for more than a year for +5 rising precision until i gave up. I have got around 25 legendary rings in total (which is not a high number considering how much i farmed) but 22 of them are useless for my character. If they made a option in Collections - do 3000 runs and get a ring of your choosing from the dungeon/skirmish/trial which you farmed i would have gotten those rings already...
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kalimoucho44Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 28Arc User
Same for me, just got a +5 ring useless for me.
I don't understand why they don't input a system of tokens for everything.
Even if it's only 1 by run, after 2000 or 3000 runs you can sell the tokens with a new seller and change them to buy : rings, mounts, weapons, stuff, etc...
And for those who want to pay, include the token system with the zen purchase, for example you buy 1100 zens, you get 100 tokens or less (I don't know, it's just a suggestion),
So everybody will be happy, players will have their stuff, cryptic will have his money.
I don't understand why they don't input a system of tokens for everything.
Is it a bad idea ?
Yes it is a bad idea for cryptic.
The +4 versions can be had with a reasonable amount of grind and are good enough for most players. People are not going to leave the game because they do not have the +5 version.
Some people are willing to commit countless hours to gamble for the +5 rings. This time spent may be more valuable to cryptic than selling the item to players and have them reduce their playing time afterwards. It's all about getting players to spent time in the game. The more time spent in the game, the more likely money will be spent at some point.
2000+ PoMs and nothing! this is HAMSTER! Why have the content and the items if no one ever HAMSTER gets them? We play the game because it is fun!HAMSTER like this is NOT fun! There are people out there with multiples and most of us have never seen one!!
You don't find the game fun anymore only because you have bad drops? If you don't see the fun in the game why do you still play it? We cannot have everything, so don't be so pissed off. I gained also only 3 rings+5 in 1 year of farming hudreds of ToD, POM or n/edemo, rings which were not good for my chars but this is the drop rate. I know people who did not saw any ring +5 until now. If you want to have a BiS rings or high ILVL/GS you must farm until you get it. Chill out!
Please speak only for yourself and be respectfull with everybody.
If you want to be taken serious, then give other people a reason to take you serious. Ask nicely. Be respectful. Use solid arguments. Be respectful. Do not exaggerate needlessly. Be respectful. If you speak for yourself, then speak only for yourself. Be respectful. Learn to accept and adapt. Be respectful. Do not abuse exclamation marks. Be respectful.
Before you ask: Yes, there is a hidden message for your sub-consciousness. No, I won't tell you, what the message is, because then it won't be hidden anymore.
I don't understand why they don't input a system of tokens for everything.
So everybody will be happy, players will have their stuff, cryptic will have his money.
Is it a bad idea ?
Yes, is a bad idea for the BiS items, the new players will have to spend alot of time to get the good stuff. The drop rate of +5 rings is very low indeed, but this is the game and everyone should have his chance to have a good drop.
Totally. They pay me with +5 rings and imaginary money. Can't stand hamsters like you, raging about ring drop. Oh, by the way. My friend got +5 ring yesterday on a casual CN run. Guess he's paid by Cryptic too.
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CN +1/2 rings , Edemo/Ndemo +1/2 rings , Pom/TODG +1/2, Tiamat shard of lifedrinker and some garbage salvage loot Shores/Lostmouth garbage salvage/overload enchant.
It feels like I'm part of an experiment to see how long till I just quit , uninstall , which is sad because I truly like this game but constant disappointment wears on you day in and day out.
The sad part is that your message gets lost in the silly, hyperbolic rant.
And after 500-600 CN,800+ thrones
1000demos ,350 edemo ,800 Pom
= nothing
I did see one drop one time for this guy....once
I honestly don't know why I farm for them besides it's really all I need for BiS and the fact I can pretty much get gold if I have one decent person in the pug . It it really seems silver or gold doesn't help or up the chances in any way that I've seen.
The one that dropped was a bronze run
So i gave up to expect any answers.
I've got 2 +5 rings and I've been luck that both of them are useful to me, so I'm not complaining.
1. "if no one gets them" and "There are people out there with multiples" - This is a contradiction.
2. "The entire community demands answers" - I do not. I know several more who do not. That is not the "entire" community.
3. You want the Devs to say how it is and to prove it - It is as it is. There is a dropchance of X%, resulting in some People being very lucky and dropping several of them in a short time, and in some People being very unlucky not seeing one in 2000+ runs. The prove ist what you yourself experience and state to be true. The devs already stated this several times for several dropchance-related questions.
Your behavior is "Hamster". Your arguments are "Hamster".
If you want to be taken serious, then give other people a reason to take you serious. Ask nicely. Be respectful. Use solid arguments. Be respectful. Do not exaggerate needlessly. Be respectful. If you speak for yourself, then speak only for yourself. Be respectful. Learn to accept and adapt. Be respectful. Do not abuse exclamation marks. Be respectful.
Before you ask: Yes, there is a hidden message for your sub-consciousness. No, I won't tell you, what the message is, because then it won't be hidden anymore.
Same with the gambit, X number of runs and you can buy the thing you want, getting the combo of +X, type of equipment and stats you want are impossibly low.
Can someone close this thread? Seems like a big ragebaby found this forum.
1Brutality (on my gwf)
1Defense (on my GF) an alt...
i would love to have a store to trade them, like 10R4 for a rank5 or 2r5 for one r5 of your choice...
But, i've got a bunch of useless +5: impenetrability, vision, etc... So yes, drop rate might be better, but not for the rings all want
I have got around 25 legendary rings in total (which is not a high number considering how much i farmed) but 22 of them are useless for my character.
If they made a option in Collections - do 3000 runs and get a ring of your choosing from the dungeon/skirmish/trial which you farmed i would have gotten those rings already...
I don't understand why they don't input a system of tokens for everything.
Even if it's only 1 by run, after 2000 or 3000 runs you can sell the tokens with a new seller and change them to buy : rings, mounts, weapons, stuff, etc...
And for those who want to pay, include the token system with the zen purchase, for example you buy 1100 zens, you get 100 tokens or less (I don't know, it's just a suggestion),
So everybody will be happy, players will have their stuff, cryptic will have his money.
Is it a bad idea ?
French guild : L'Ordre Du Dragon Noir
The +4 versions can be had with a reasonable amount of grind and are good enough for most players. People are not going to leave the game because they do not have the +5 version.
Some people are willing to commit countless hours to gamble for the +5 rings. This time spent may be more valuable to cryptic than selling the item to players and have them reduce their playing time afterwards. It's all about getting players to spent time in the game. The more time spent in the game, the more likely money will be spent at some point.
If you want to have a BiS rings or high ILVL/GS you must farm until you get it. Chill out!
Please speak only for yourself and be respectfull with everybody.
Agree with his message .
Yes, is a bad idea for the BiS items, the new players will have to spend alot of time to get the good stuff. The drop rate of +5 rings is very low indeed, but this is the game and everyone should have his chance to have a good drop.
Yes my friend, is a good place to have good drops like artifacts.