Im just curious because everyone seems to be satisfied and happy. Im really trying, but right now even fishing in SoMi is more fun then doing this campaign stuff:I
I like the story and the freeform daily. I don't like the skirmish and the jumping, platformer quest. Not currently interested in the weapons and it will be some time before the dungeon is unlocked. Compared to most, it doesn't eat up all my time or force me to repeat the same thing over and over - important when running 2 characters.
"We have always been at war with Dread Vault" ~ Little Brother
morks, you only need the Elk Tribe support to get the 100% completion on the campaign window. The last boon counts toward an achievement but otherwise is skippable.
"We have always been at war with Dread Vault" ~ Little Brother
IN MY OPINION: This campaign is tedious, boring, the jump is the most ridiculous thing done. The rewards from the HEs are bad, the daily is boring and the "bosses" (Gyrion and Nostura) are ridiculous. Not to mention this guy:
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I'd just like to see something different than gating everything behind months of dailies. Even shifting from a daily grind to a weekly cap limit (like underdark) would be better...as I often have multiple hours to play in 1 day rather than the ability to play every single day. A weekly cap would do the same thing, but just allow more flexibility during the week.
Anyways, I'm just going straight to the SP unlock and then I doubt I'll see River District again....since I don't want the weapons, I don't see any other point being there. Maybe complete the boons....someday....but even those are becoming lackluster.
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feanor70118Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,170Arc User
No, you're not. Drop rates are still miserable. There's no real clarity on how to progress through the mod. We have to rely on community-made maps to adventurer parties and treasure locations to get even the smallest bit accomplished. Still no permanent solo pvp queue, still no +5 rings choice or trade, still no realistic in-game source of coalescent wards, no reform of the disgusting RNG, no real class balancing, more artifact equipment we don't want, no fix to the the Giant Key Disaster, and far too much grind per day.
I really like Mod 11. Letting me chart my own course through the campaign forces me to think about what decisions I want to make, which is refreshing. I also like the mechanic of helping the guards maintain security in the zone: it's a way of inducing people to cooperate without using a sledgehammer to force them into it. Very, very smart move by the devs.
At first I didn't like the enemy density when I tested it on Preview, but I've since gotten used to it. I would put it at the threshold between being acceptable and cumbersome (i.e. I'm glad the density isn't any higher), but right now it's manageable while still keeping you on your toes.
I'd really like to see some more storyline quests later in the campaign: each of the Cloaked Ascendancy mages has a history, and while we get to learn some of it, I see an opportunity for more sleuthing. I'm not sure if this is possible, but it would be really neat if, for example, a storyline quest for Gyrion let you choose the actual quest path. Admittedly that would entail quite a bit of work by the devs, but there *is* a mechanism whereby some motivated and imaginative players could lend assistance...
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I like the fact that I can knock out all the dailies in 1-2 hours and then move on. I just can't live in one mod farming stuff over and over like some can.
I'd rather do some River dailies, then run some dungeons and skirmishes, maybe Dread or Sharandar or Underdark stuff, etc.
I'm not liking the fact that it'll probably be May before I get my Aboleth weapons, though.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
I really, really like Module 11. The freedoom in doing my daily stuff however I want and the weapons it introduces are the primary positives for me.
It is not flawless - I really dislike the dig site grind required for the weapon restoration materials, but apart from taht - yeah...I's so, so much better than 10 and 10.5.
Hoping for improvements...
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santralafaxMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,896Arc User
IN MY OPINION: This campaign is tedious, boring, the jump is the most ridiculous thing done. The rewards from the HEs are bad, the daily is boring and the "bosses" (Gyrion and Nostura) are ridiculous. Not to mention this guy:
I was with you up to the bosses. I like the story, the module itself is just boring.
How long does it take to unlock Spellplague? This is dumb as hell. I dont know why we have to grind for weeks for a fu...dungeon. Beside the spellplague issue i like the new module.
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arcanjo86Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,093Arc User
How long does it take to unlock Spellplague? This is dumb as hell. I dont know why we have to grind for weeks for a fu...dungeon. Beside the spellplague issue i like the new module.
above the investigate all 3 (Gyrion, nostura and kabal) theres 3 task that need to be done to unlock spellplague master dungeon
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gabrieldourdenMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,212Arc User
If they'll fix the number of Arcanic Foci (either by increasing the drop or reducing the cost) I will be pretty satisfied with the campaign as it gives a chance to work on more alts and bring them up. Having basically no power creep on the mains is good too. I like the fact that you can pretty much choose your way (except AF again because you can get them only by digging). Story is nice so far, I hope they'll dig deeper into it (I'd like to have more story and less grind XD).
I don't like the fact that rewards in SP are so bad. The dungeon is great, giving relic armor is a good alternative to the EF- resistance-grind way that goes via FBI, but there is very little reason to run the dungeon with a main. This is more a gear-up your alts mod than anything else, which is good in a sense as it expands the player base for more difficult stuff, but not so interesting for mains who already have vivified armor and relic weapons.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
I'd just like to see something different than gating everything behind months of dailies. Even shifting from a daily grind to a weekly cap limit (like underdark) would be better...as I often have multiple hours to play in 1 day rather than the ability to play every single day. A weekly cap would do the same thing, but just allow more flexibility during the week.
Anyways, I'm just going straight to the SP unlock and then I doubt I'll see River District again....since I don't want the weapons, I don't see any other point being there. Maybe complete the boons....someday....but even those are becoming lackluster.
Exactly.. After finishing all stuff there is nothing to do in River District. Same with Icewind Dale and Elemental Evil maps. They keep doing Heroic Encounters with poor rewards. Who is gonna grind HEs for peridot or rank 4 or evidence of evil when you dont need them..
And I dont know about Spellplague Caverns. I want to unlock it too, but in other hand why bother ? Key of Stars compared with Eye of the giant seems like trash, there is no new gear set, nothing.
Exactly.. After finishing all stuff there is nothing to do in River District.
Yea, his is exactly one of the issues that was raised (and ignored) during Preview testing. I mean, I go regularly back to Dread Ring for the chance of getting a Greater Mark from one of the instances - I occasionally go to Sharandar just to stock up on Potions of Heroism, I go through WoD occasionally, do a few demonic HEs and such, but some of the other campaigns (including M11) do not really have anything that would make me interested in coming back once I have my weapons, boons and dungeon unlock.
Well in River District, you can buy a relic key from the travelling merchant, 20 EoE. Since, I guess, we'll need it for SP, still worth doing from time to time ...
Well in River District, you can buy a relic key from the travelling merchant, 20 EoE. Since, I guess, we'll need it for SP, still worth doing from time to time ...
I hope completing the campaign will unlock some items, because this is a trash store.
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checkmatein3Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 525Arc User
Overall, I like mod 11.
PROs: The lack of clarity in campaign progression seems to parallel the lore (confusion on what to do next). More than just 'go here and whack X amount.' The mechanics in the 'confront. quests are different. It brings back memories of early foundry jumping puzzles put together by some crazy masters. Surprises abounded. More achievements and lore, a good storyline and a spoiler...*if you read the lore you get* Freedom for different players to pursue different things. Ending the campaign will be different for differently geared players. A normal dungeon back. An epic dungeon back and redesigned with good mechanics. A new skirmish. Addition of companion gear that can start equipping adequately things other than rings. The removal of underdark rings as granting bonuses in companions (yes, I asked for suddens to be removed months ago). Funny achievements and titles...no spoilers given.
CONs: Drop rate for bottleneck bound items. Unpublished daily limits (still debating whether Evidence of Evil has a daily max)...if any. A little too much recycled content in vaults and in storyline. Give us more new stuff. A little more story/lore/leadup to huge map would have been a bit better....to help allay some of the confusion. The Investigate Nostura quest line gets jumbled up when you go to the ArchDruid in PE. No one takes the time to notice that a new quest was added in the midst of all the Weapons of X element. It should not appear in the middle, but at the top. Lag. Increasing the instances to 50+ (fuggetabowtit). Not a whole lot of secret quests in the new map (like SKT and SoMI). Reclaimed Items take up Inventory space and only stack to 99. Vault maps take up inventory space and have no purpose but to remind you that you did that vault. Treasure maps only stack for the exact treasure, like they are mini quests rather than maps. Chests with portal stones only stack to 5. Final boss in normal SP bugs. Fix it.
I would love more chapters and story line, rather than replaying confront X several times. You could have made each confront repeat with more lore. That would be awesome.
IN MY OPINION: This campaign is tedious, boring, the jump is the most ridiculous thing done. The rewards from the HEs are bad, the daily is boring and the "bosses" (Gyrion and Nostura) are ridiculous. Not to mention this guy:
I was with you up to the bosses. I like the story, the module itself is just boring.
The story is nice, but the way things work, the ridiculous grind, it's just tedious. You need all 3 Confront to unlock Spellplague. What's the point on launching a new dungeon if you need like 1 month to unlock it?
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,508Arc User
Im just curious because everyone seems to be satisfied and happy. Im really trying, but right now even fishing in SoMi is more fun then doing this campaign stuff:I
I would not say I like. However, if the bar is set to fishing in SoMI, mod 11 is a lot better.
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As for mod 10, my heart sinks every time I think about the game completion only being 85%, missing 1 boon and the 3 Elk Tribe unlock thingy.
in fact i was almost leaving the game, the changes to drop rates + this module made me really happy again !!
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Anyways, I'm just going straight to the SP unlock and then I doubt I'll see River District again....since I don't want the weapons, I don't see any other point being there. Maybe complete the boons....someday....but even those are becoming lackluster.
I think they forgot that games are supposed to be fun.
At first I didn't like the enemy density when I tested it on Preview, but I've since gotten used to it. I would put it at the threshold between being acceptable and cumbersome (i.e. I'm glad the density isn't any higher), but right now it's manageable while still keeping you on your toes.
I'd really like to see some more storyline quests later in the campaign: each of the Cloaked Ascendancy mages has a history, and while we get to learn some of it, I see an opportunity for more sleuthing. I'm not sure if this is possible, but it would be really neat if, for example, a storyline quest for Gyrion let you choose the actual quest path. Admittedly that would entail quite a bit of work by the devs, but there *is* a mechanism whereby some motivated and imaginative players could lend assistance...
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I'd rather do some River dailies, then run some dungeons and skirmishes, maybe Dread or Sharandar or Underdark stuff, etc.
I'm not liking the fact that it'll probably be May before I get my Aboleth weapons, though.
It is not flawless - I really dislike the dig site grind required for the weapon restoration materials, but apart from taht - yeah...I's so, so much better than 10 and 10.5.
Beside the spellplague issue i like the new module.
I like the fact that you can pretty much choose your way (except AF again because you can get them only by digging). Story is nice so far, I hope they'll dig deeper into it (I'd like to have more story and less grind XD).
I don't like the fact that rewards in SP are so bad. The dungeon is great, giving relic armor is a good alternative to the EF- resistance-grind way that goes via FBI, but there is very little reason to run the dungeon with a main. This is more a gear-up your alts mod than anything else, which is good in a sense as it expands the player base for more difficult stuff, but not so interesting for mains who already have vivified armor and relic weapons.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
And I dont know about Spellplague Caverns. I want to unlock it too, but in other hand why bother ? Key of Stars compared with Eye of the giant seems like trash, there is no new gear set, nothing.
It's basically a design flaw.
PROs:
The lack of clarity in campaign progression seems to parallel the lore (confusion on what to do next).
More than just 'go here and whack X amount.' The mechanics in the 'confront. quests are different. It brings back memories of early foundry jumping puzzles put together by some crazy masters. Surprises abounded.
More achievements and lore, a good storyline and a spoiler...*if you read the lore you get*
Freedom for different players to pursue different things. Ending the campaign will be different for differently geared players.
A normal dungeon back.
An epic dungeon back and redesigned with good mechanics.
A new skirmish.
Addition of companion gear that can start equipping adequately things other than rings.
The removal of underdark rings as granting bonuses in companions (yes, I asked for suddens to be removed months ago).
Funny achievements and titles...no spoilers given.
CONs:
Drop rate for bottleneck bound items.
Unpublished daily limits (still debating whether Evidence of Evil has a daily max)...if any.
A little too much recycled content in vaults and in storyline. Give us more new stuff.
A little more story/lore/leadup to huge map would have been a bit better....to help allay some of the confusion.
The Investigate Nostura quest line gets jumbled up when you go to the ArchDruid in PE. No one takes the time to notice that a new quest was added in the midst of all the Weapons of X element. It should not appear in the middle, but at the top.
Lag.
Increasing the instances to 50+ (fuggetabowtit).
Not a whole lot of secret quests in the new map (like SKT and SoMI).
Reclaimed Items take up Inventory space and only stack to 99.
Vault maps take up inventory space and have no purpose but to remind you that you did that vault.
Treasure maps only stack for the exact treasure, like they are mini quests rather than maps.
Chests with portal stones only stack to 5.
Final boss in normal SP bugs. Fix it.
I would love more chapters and story line, rather than replaying confront X several times. You could have made each confront repeat with more lore. That would be awesome.
Anyway, cheers mates!
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What's the point on launching a new dungeon if you need like 1 month to unlock it?
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