Power points after 70?

gduff · January 2017

Does anyone know the specific rules on how you acquire power points after reaching level 70? I've "leveled" 3 or 4 times now past 70 and have only received one power point and some fairly useless enchants and refinement stones. are the rewards you get after leveling past 70 random or is there a specific way i can get power points?

micky1p00 · January 2017

It's RNG. Sometimes you get some when you 'level up' (overflow xp), usually you will not. But the percentage is not bad, over time you will get more than you need.
You can also farm them specifically, in sharandar campaign window, the task is "Assist Wat Effort" (top left task on pc, not sure on PS4 though)

ravenskya · January 2017

Sorry I missed answering that question earlier. You can get them in Sharandar by farming the daily quests, though I recommend finishing the campaign first and getting the boons. I think it's about a week to get a point. Otherwise it's just dumb luck what you get with each overflow.

gduff · January 2017

thanks guys. any way to get more feats?

ravenskya · January 2017

nope - god I wish there was

grandpaogre · January 2017

There's only one way to squeeze out a few more feat points, become human.

trinity706 · January 2017

May want to utilize XP bonus items at least until you get enough power points to max your most used skills/abilities.

snakeusmc · February 2017

Relatively new 70 char, still working on getting my boons in dread and Sharandar. I think I have leveled 8+ times since 70 and still have not gotten a power point. Getting super frustrated, as I only have one skill at max points. WTF!!??!!!!

armadeonx · February 2017

Rng is really unforgiving in this game. @snakeusmc you should do as the others have suggested and farm Sharandar and use XP boosting enchantments in utility slots.

snakeusmc · February 2017

@armadeonx RNG is deff unforgiving and its even more aggravating when your friend, who you play with, is on his 6th power point and laughing about it all. LOL. I'm using the xp boosting enchants, but as a fresh 70, I'm not wasting my Sharandar grind on power points when i have the boons to unlock. So i have to just suffer until its done with.

I just wish they would add in some code like -- if player has gone so many levels without receiving a power point the chances are multiplied per level. So if you level 3 times without receiving one of their RNG math power points it could look something like this -- 10.0%(powerpoint) x 3(levels) = 30% chance powerpoint over flow loot.
The more levels you go without, the more likely the chance to get a power point.

ravenskya · February 2017

My TR gets powerpoints almost every overflow - my healadin, who I actually want them on went 6 overflows without getting a power point.

gduff · February 2017

I'm actually 2 for 5 now with power points on overflows. I did get impatient though and used a whole lot of feywild sparks an Ili blades to get a power point, which set me back several days on my boons. Won't be doing that again any time soon

bringeroflight · February 2017

i get powerpoints all the time that being said I wish they would have added an extra incentive to the level 4 on abilities and maybe limited the # of powerpoints you could get to like 75

snakeusmc · February 2017

I think I actually like the idea of having a power point cap, but if that was the case the way points are distributed I would want changed. I don't like putting points into skills I have no intention on using, just to unlock the lower tiers; or at a minimal just reduce the amount of points needed to unlock the next tier of skills. Giving the user a greater pool at 70 to spend on maxing skills.

ravenskya · February 2017

Um no thank you - on my healadin I want all most of my auras at 4 so that I can swap between them as needed, I also want my regular dailys, about 6 encounters and my regular at-wills at 4. So I need at least 15 power points on her. Right now she has about 6. And she's been level 70 since the 2nd or 3rd week of the game being on PS4.

trinity706 · February 2017

I'm keeping a running log of overflow levels and have about 13 points left.

The incentive for rank 4 abilities is more effects/stronger capabilities. Limiting the amount of power points a character can get would only force respec tokens on them. With all being capable of ranking to 4, characters can just switch out abilities as they see fit.

Once you get all the power points it "should" be removed from the "RNG" table allowing the other rewards to be granted more often.

snakeusmc · February 2017

Of course yall dont like it, it limits a player. And that's the point behind it, to make players have specialized chars.Have you ever played DnD ?? You don't get to make a character than can use all the skills and abilities, your build your char to the way you like to play it and that's it.

Regardless- that system is not going to happen. Like I said earlier i would prefer them add a multiplier for PPs per level gone without receiving one.

trinity706 · February 2017

@snakeusmc characters still can be specialized.

You can't have all abilities usable at the same time, you have to pick which ones you you want (specialization), not to mention the paragon paths, heroic and paragon points, you can't change those without respeccing so there's character specialization right there and on top of it depending on the paragon path and what the paragon points are specced into reduces or increases the effectiveness of the chosen abilities, again, specialization there as well.

ravenskya · February 2017

Yes dear - I have played quite a bit of DnD... I also know that if you kept playing on the same character - guess what... they still got stronger.

Then again I played back before they turned DnD into a rules nightmare where you need 15 rolls just to successfully grapple. limiting to 5 power points doesn't help because you know what? One a character is maxed out, players lose interested in playing those characters both in pnp and in console gaming

there IS a max to the number of power points that you can get.

My TR doesn't need many power points and she's good. 5 would have been plenty. A healer will need more. My tank would probably be okay with 5, I'm guessing that a CW would need more than 5 as well.

Also 5 doesn't cover the basics of 2 at-wills, 3 encounters and 2 personal (unless you are a CW they get that extra encounter) and doesn't cover if you actually are one of those people who changes powers depending on situations.

Whatever you play clearly doesn't need many - just know that others do.

And in this game when you limit the characters what you end up with is 99% of the people all playing the same build, with the same gear or working on obtaining that same gear. There is no real specialization in this game.

snakeusmc · February 2017

@trinity706 i never said that chars couldn't be specialized. I was pointing out the way chars have points, skills, talents is contrary to the traditional standards that DnD uses/used. Thats all; DnD has more specialized char creation from start to finish(or did that last time i played it --way back when). When you exhausted you point pool you didn't get anymore skills and you didn't have a huge pool to choose all these different skills to use.

Not saying it should be this way or they should put it in this current game.

ravenskya · February 2017

In dnd you don't have to put points in one skill to make another skill work properly because of a programming error.

In dnd if you want to be an archer - you are either a rogue, or a ranger - and then you specialize in bows. You aren't a druid with a bow...

Also remember "turn undead?" where did that go? Or the cleric mace?

Or that paladins do huge amounts of damage and could heal some (but weren't considered your main healer)

Or that as a mage you can cast ANY SPELL in your spell book that you have memorized - not 3-4

This is so far from dnd... which is sad because I wanted it to be dnd.

trinity706 · February 2017

@snakeusmc hmmm, seems to me that you don't like having all those non-rank 4 abilities and "RNG" isn't blessing you

(/joke)

The current system still makes players have specialized characters, it's just one portion of that specialization can be interchanged without respeccing (encounters, at-wills, dailys).

snakeusmc · February 2017

@trinity706 hahaha for sure, the RNG gods have not been kind to me. I don't know how you can go 8 levels and not get a dang point when others are getting one dang near ever level. I want to see the math behind that one.

Good thing i didn't bring up perma death...you would probably be up in arms about that!! ROFL

trinity706 · February 2017

@snakeusmc it depends, permadeath could be a thing though...

In other words a character marked as "permadeathable" can get increased "RNG" rolls or something, maybe even "permadeath" zones where when you die on one you can't enter again until the next day or something...

snakeusmc · February 2017

@ravenskya that was pretty much my whole point. I would prefer a truer version of DnD, but most people would not want that "hardcore" type of game play.
And yes i remember that. The subclasses were awesome and you had to even put points into what type of armor you wanted to wear. And you could split off subclass to be a hero class(??) Fighters >Paladin>>Black Guard.

gduff · February 2017

i agree that is seems odd that you would theoretically be able to max all powers as i don't think i've played many games that allow that. Having said that, i don't think i will ever have enough time in game to get that many power points. There are many unusual systems the game employs, some i like, some are beyond frustrating. 5 years ago i could have dedicated the amount of time needed to really max everything, but i'm starting to realize that i probably won't get close. Still enjoy the game though

ravenskya · February 2017

I know there actually is a max to the number of power points you can use - I just can't remember what the max is - I'm thinking it was in the 50's

snakeusmc · February 2017

@gduff#9306 I deff don't have enuff time to skill up all powers, heck i barely have time to run boon dailies and AD runs as is.

gduff · February 2017

snakeusmc said:
@gduff#9306 I deff don't have enuff time to skill up all powers, heck i barely have time to run boon dailies and AD runs as is.

Yeah i am struggling with that too. I am trying to do the dailies for sharandar, dread ring and maze engine whenever i can log on, but that is only once or twice a week so it's slow going. I have the first two or three boons in those campaigns as of now

snakeusmc · February 2017

@gduff I typically prioritize my ad generation over the boon dailies. Demo will help out in both that and boon unlocking. After that I focus only on sharandar, dread, and neverwinter graveyard weekly.
I'm working on the last boon in both shar and dread; so I've added icewind dale now to the dailies. I'm lucky if i can get in a couple hours a day.

armadeonx · February 2017

Well for the first few mods we only had 3 points. I think it was mod 6 that they introduced the 4th. Players maxed everything at 3 and then just got a terrible reward for clocking over again and again. The 4th point came in at the same time as the increase in level cap from 60 to 70 and I've a feeling they'll introduce L80 at some point this year.

On the other point previously mentioned, some classes can easily get by with 4 points in just a few skills as they never need to change skills - the GWF for example. Other classes have to swap skills depending on whether they are fighting mobs or bosses or doing solo dailies or running in groups.

The Paladin is a prime example of this, I actively use 17 different powers (3 at-wills, 7 encounters, 4 class features & 3 dailies) and mess about with another 3 or 4. To be fair it's taken me about a year to earn all the power points I need and I play a ridiculous amount.

Power points after 70?

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