demonmongerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,350Arc User
They refused to return my x99 stacks of opals
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I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
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dread4moorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,154Arc User
Tom#6998 "mod 10 is exactly what it should be... let the "better" players have their enjoyment for this 1 mod."
Right. Congrats on being better. And glad that someone is pleased with this Mod.
But "exactly as it should be"? Bollocks. I play with 8 other loyal > 3 year NW veterans. We are all active players, all experienced, all our toons are >3.5k, bespoke builds, mostly BiS gear, meticulous party organization. Our FBI runs - We bomb through. You get the picture, Tom. Not as "better" as you, but we do not suck.
Yet, Tom, we all HATE thjs mind-numbing repetitive grind, volinblod fuel requirements and fishing ... gawd blimey, FISHING in an MMORPG... required for this campaign progression.
6 out of those 8 loyal >3 year NW vets finally left to play other games... in this Mod. They stuck it out through Caturday, Coal-gate, key binding, loot binding, a failed economy, incomplete Mod releases, an unchecked army of bots, abandoned PvP development, abandoned dungeons, abandoned foundry, abandoned gateway and more abandoned class-power bugs then there are bots in the Arcane Reservoir.
Here's the tally, Tom: None of those <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>-ups broke their love for NW. But Mod 10 broke them, Tom. Mod 10 made them quit.
So, No. Not "exactly what it should be", Tom. But, hey. You like it. So... there's that.
I am Took.
"Full plate and packing steel" in NW since 2013.
It is always the same, every module. People are complaining about the content. They complain about the grind. They complain about the balancing. They complain about the economy. Everything feels sooo wrong to them.
This happens since the first module. Every module people are prediciting that NW is going to die. Did it happen? No. Will it happen in the next 3-5 years? Probably not. The playerbase is still high for a MMO and the D&D license always catches people to play this game.
People leave this game. This is very usual for a MMORPG. Probably 85% of my M2 friendlist have left the game. Do I complain about it? No. The game is still fun for me and why should I leave the game just because online friends are complaining about it or dont like the content? As long as I like the content I will stay. The devs cant make one perfect content for every player base. Either the casuals, the beginners or the hardcore players will complain about it because at least 1 group profits less than another one from the content. The current content was definetly made for the more experienced players. Of course there are people who dislike FBI or Svardborg. There are also a lot of people who dislike the grind but what would you bring instead? Every MMO consist of a lot of grind. I would even say NW is one of the games that has not very much grind if you compare it to other games that are currently on the market. I rather want a grindy content instead of content that just consits of dailys.
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dravendrow76Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 38Arc User
edited December 2016
... can´t stand it.
The best, the better, the experienced, the King for a Mod - Fool for a lifetime.
Whats the reason makes it necessary to tell about his own point of view how good/worse himself is doing??
@dread4moor U can run dungeons and buy the fishing and he stuff with ADs. And farming 1-2 hours VB a month isnt killing the fun atleast for me. Mod 8 added 2 skirmeshes with less mechanics then 1 he has. And 1"raid" which is just brainless smashing buttons at the boss. Mod 9 only 1 easy dungeon which gets boring after the first run. Mod 10 now has atleast more content then the last 2 combined
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santralafaxMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,896Arc User
Enough debuff and Svardborg Master is a joke..... This so called "dungeon" generates the new epen DDs. No one cares about running out of red circles...no one cares about staying close together for hyperthermie....just "switch your brain off and make DPS. What a "great" grp experience.....
It is always the same, every module. People are complaining about the content. They complain about the grind. They complain about the balancing. They complain about the economy. Everything feels sooo wrong to them.
This happens since the first module. Every module people are prediciting that NW is going to die. Did it happen? No. Will it happen in the next 3-5 years? Probably not. The playerbase is still high for a MMO and the D&D license always catches people to play this game.
People leave this game. This is very usual for a MMORPG. Probably 85% of my M2 friendlist have left the game. Do I complain about it? No. The game is still fun for me and why should I leave the game just because online friends are complaining about it or dont like the content? As long as I like the content I will stay. The devs cant make one perfect content for every player base. Either the casuals, the beginners or the hardcore players will complain about it because at least 1 group profits less than another one from the content. The current content was definetly made for the more experienced players. Of course there are people who dislike FBI or Svardborg. There are also a lot of people who dislike the grind but what would you bring instead? Every MMO consist of a lot of grind. I would even say NW is one of the games that has not very much grind if you compare it to other games that are currently on the market. I rather want a grindy content instead of content that just consits of dailys.
While this grind might be tolerable, if you play one char, it is to much for more characters. I unlocked the Sharandar, Dread ring, Icewind Dale, Tyranny of dragons and rage of demons on 6 chars and maze engine on most. Guess how many chars did the new campaign, one. I have a 3.5k IL DC and could run the new dungeon 24/7 exept, unlike Demo, I would have to unlock this dungeon with every character. So I have to wait for a spot for my CW and hope, that we get the needed DCs.
I don't mind the grind so much. It's the RNG that kills me. RNG may be working as intended server wide but for some of us unlucky players we will never see the marks required to get our weapons upgraded.
I've already heard many players state they won't run SVA after getting their gear upgraded. You think getting a group together now is hard, try getting a group together a month or two from now.
I ran hundreds of demo, POM and TODG in search of the fabled +5 rings. Finally got one that was useless for PVE. I'm expecting the same result in getting the high tiered marks to upgrade my weapons.
To keep this content viable for any length of time certain items need to be BOE. Let users sell marks and mats for vilifying on the AH. Rings from content should be BOE so they can be sold if the user doesn't need them. If selling the rings is deemed bad for the economy maybe put an exchange agent in PE so folks can exchange for a ring they need.
I know it sounds like I just want to buy the best gear. Not really, I just want to be able to get the gear. Right now I'm pretty certain no amount of running the content will change my luck.
TLDR: Keep RNG in the lockboxes where it belongs. Otherwise, let us earn what the game has to offer.
Honestly I dislike the voinblood aspect as well but I run FBI 2/3 times a day everyday because we like the challenge in our guild on PS4 I also run a couple of CNs/ELOL.
We have some players that play a lot and they have to incorporate some voinblood farming into there routine but I work full time so when i come home I do my SH dailies for the influence and do my storm kings thunder dailies (1 in each location for the rep only since i have 500+ wood) and I don't ever have to farm voinblood unless I'm unlocking a boon.
I wear the 150 boots fully empowered and when i want to go into FBI i pop on the gauntlets and pop a potion (take off gauntlets when i get in but leave the boots on) the voinblood i get from the fbi because of our completion time is more than i get in combat time for that days play.
The last time i farmed voinblood was a week or so ago for the 4th boon. Waiting on getting enough campaign currencies for the final boon then realistically i wont ever need to do the dailies till part 2.
I just don't get why they keep on producing content which is only bearable by the unemployed, the exploiters, and the whales. Maybe they're betting on the new customers on the consoles, but this community is even less renown for their time investment in their games.
I'm more of a fat dolphin than a whale, but money won't buy you through FBI and Svardblog. It won't vivify your gear (shoud you get it, nor give you the marks for the new weapons.) Work and family matters have left me feeling quite behind--and I was well ahead at the end of Mod 9. (My only complaint at the end of 9 was the continued lack of +5 rings, waaah!)
I guess we are talking about the unemployed and the eploiters....
No need to insult me and no, im not trolling. Feel free to whisper me ingame if you wanna see it. No one plays the event in MSVA, but this has nothing to do with GS. Its just a constellation of the group, enough debuffs and OFC enough AAs. Thats all. We tried it in our guild to play MSVA with the events and without spaming AA. Harder, but can be done also. And to spam AA you dont need BIS gear, same for bubble. And theese so called "mobs" and "bosses" got no def, i guess. Every DPS class can deal huge damage. And...you dont need BIS gear for it. We are running with our guilde very often. Not all of them got BIS gear and....its no need for it in MSVA.
Spidey is right on that one. If the group knows the mechanics of the raid and plays accordingly its not all that hard. I have to laugh every time i see someone write a messange like that: SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
The difference between a 3.4 k player with 3x12 bondings and 12´s in his offences slots and a 4k char is marginal ! The 4k pumped up his GS by slotting 12´s in defence slots, by enforcing his gear etc. These days I read in PE chat things like : "lfm VT fast run 3k+" and other stupid things. My ignore list can´t swallow all those ppl. It´s too much, and it´s getting worse from my PoV. Boring content and stupid, mindmelting grind to get a new weaponset on top this playerbase...
Sorry for not reading all pages through, so if i am repeating, so bare with me.
Svardborg and FBI should be separated, the requirement of running FBI to be able to do Svardborg is very off setting for many lower IL players (under 4k), who meet all the requirements, just are simply left out of Svardborg, because of the all time topping elitism.
Elitism is gone no so far for Svardborg, that classes (TR here) even if they meet the said requirements are mostly left out. Even in dedicated channels people usually form their small group and only ask for AA DCs and some tanks or MoFs, others can go and well i guess fish (sarcasm).
I have also noticed a new slang word "HHDPS", i was like wtf and needed to ask a friend what it was, although i had some ideas what it could be. He told me, you need to have a full BiS toon, preferably from the most needed classes, full set of rank 20 guild boons, 4K+ toon and full rank 12 bondings.
But what i found the most hilarious, was the fact, that the same people usually running this "HHDPS" when going into a bit of cool down from all the mark collecting and wanting to do a few normal dungeons are asking for the same "HHDPS" for a normal eToS (lol).
Power creep is getting out of hand and with it the circle of enjoyable content for average Joes is shrinking in this game. Cryptic should stop now with pushing out new barriers into the game. They and only they are the ones, who can stop the elitist mentality totally destroying the game. Don't forget, they are pushing out the insane power creep and they are the supervisors in this kindergarten, only they can tame the bad habits of people.
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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dravendrow76Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 38Arc User
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
Yes...theese the ones they are welcome to my ignore list.
i´ve tried yesterday: Dump DC who don´t know what to do, but epic rod and epic khjet lf esva^^. What should i say? PING PING PING, the best one offers a map in a bottle if i will join^^ But like i allways say to them: you dont take my cw the last view days, now i wont give you my DC these days.
If the group knows the mechanics of the raid and plays accordingly its not all that hard.
I have to laugh every time i see someone write a messange like that:
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
Whenever I saw this kind of thing I usually sent a message in the same channel asking what's their stat distribution and feats. One day I tried to make a fun post like "3.9 Tiefling SW born in the Nine Hells, I worship Tymora because the game didn't give me the option of worshipping Mephistopheles (my favorite Archduke) or Beshaba (the infamous lady of misfortune), stat distribution 16 12 16, heroic feats distribution zzzzz. 4 epic mounts, all purple insignias, 102.3% crit with bondings, 39,788 unbuffed power, all campaigns maxed, I do zzz dps in a 2 dc group and zzz dps in a 3 dc group." I put more funny and useless info but can't recall. I thought it would be hilarious but it wouldn't fit in a single message, people could consider it a spam so I just said "nevermind".
All that merchandising made me leave these channels, I couldn't stand all that nonsense posts.
And the most hilarious is when they link their legendary new weapon set...even worse when they link the new weapon set as purple or blue in rarity, it's hilarious.
Man, who cares if you have a legendary mount? Who cares if you use a trans enchantment? Who cares if you got the new weapon set? lol
Edit: 3 x letters in a row turns into hamster omg. So I changed to zzz
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Ly'saaera, Hellbringer Fury Scourge Warlock of Thieves World Hælja, Swordmaster Conqueror Guardian Fighter of Thieves World
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
Yes...theese the ones they are welcome to my ignore list.
Just yesterday I saw something like "4k TR HDPS Bondings (blah blah blah) LF MSWA...I'm spending quite a bit of my game time in SOMM, and it's getting more and more amusing to watch
Nancy - Dragonborn, SM Guardian Fighter A proud member of "mythical horde of DPS GFs"
1). Is SW more dps or tank based? 2). Yes. I am panzer! 3). Get ACT if you want to celebrate your epeen. 4). Horniness will not stand between me and what I believe - "MM"
This (upcoming for xbox) mod made my scrap my 4K TR. I am not interested in the grinding needed to ungate the content either. I enjoyed the cold run zone it was fun. When is mod 11?
TR - Sun: 16000 IL OP - Sunshine: 16000 IL
Casual Dailies
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demonmongerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,350Arc User
Underark campaign is how all campaigns should be...
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I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
Yes...theese the ones they are welcome to my ignore list.
Just yesterday I saw something like "4k TR HDPS Bondings (blah blah blah) LF MSWA...I'm spending quite a bit of my game time in SOMM, and it's getting more and more amusing to watch
I have a certain amount of sympathy for TRs, because, well besides the fact I play one, a lot of times MSVA runs won't take them just because they are TRs. So, although I wouldn't do that myself, I can kinda understand why a TR might feel it necessary to billboard his gear score in the hopes that someone might take him.
Lilia Drakon - PVE Executioner TR She Looked Lvl 18
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
Yes...theese the ones they are welcome to my ignore list.
Just yesterday I saw something like "4k TR HDPS Bondings (blah blah blah) LF MSWA...I'm spending quite a bit of my game time in SOMM, and it's getting more and more amusing to watch
I have a certain amount of sympathy for TRs, because, well besides the fact I play one, a lot of times MSVA runs won't take them just because they are TRs. So, although I wouldn't do that myself, I can kinda understand why a TR might feel it necessary to billboard his gear score in the hopes that someone might take him.
One of the most BIASed things I heard ingame was a 4.2k TR asking another TR (3.5k ish PVP) for a spot in the mSVA group he was building and the other TR told him, 'sorry no TR'.
BTW it was an alliance run and we are in the same alliance. I did not get the TRs name, but AFAIK he was even in the same guild as the 2nd TR.
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"mod 10 is exactly what it should be... let the "better" players have their enjoyment for this 1 mod."
Right. Congrats on being better.
And glad that someone is pleased with this Mod.
But "exactly as it should be"? Bollocks.
I play with 8 other loyal > 3 year NW veterans.
We are all active players, all experienced, all our toons are >3.5k, bespoke builds, mostly BiS gear, meticulous party organization.
Our FBI runs - We bomb through. You get the picture, Tom. Not as "better" as you, but we do not suck.
Yet, Tom, we all HATE thjs mind-numbing repetitive grind, volinblod fuel requirements and fishing ... gawd blimey, FISHING in an MMORPG... required for this campaign progression.
6 out of those 8 loyal >3 year NW vets finally left to play other games... in this Mod.
They stuck it out through Caturday, Coal-gate, key binding, loot binding, a failed economy, incomplete Mod releases, an unchecked army of bots, abandoned PvP development, abandoned dungeons, abandoned foundry, abandoned gateway and more abandoned class-power bugs then there are bots in the Arcane Reservoir.
Here's the tally, Tom:
None of those <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>-ups broke their love for NW.
But Mod 10 broke them, Tom. Mod 10 made them quit.
So, No.
Not "exactly what it should be", Tom.
But, hey. You like it. So... there's that.
I am Took.
"Full plate and packing steel" in NW since 2013.
This happens since the first module. Every module people are prediciting that NW is going to die. Did it happen? No. Will it happen in the next 3-5 years? Probably not. The playerbase is still high for a MMO and the D&D license always catches people to play this game.
People leave this game. This is very usual for a MMORPG. Probably 85% of my M2 friendlist have left the game. Do I complain about it? No. The game is still fun for me and why should I leave the game just because online friends are complaining about it or dont like the content? As long as I like the content I will stay.
The devs cant make one perfect content for every player base. Either the casuals, the beginners or the hardcore players will complain about it because at least 1 group profits less than another one from the content. The current content was definetly made for the more experienced players. Of course there are people who dislike FBI or Svardborg. There are also a lot of people who dislike the grind but what would you bring instead? Every MMO consist of a lot of grind. I would even say NW is one of the games that has not very much grind if you compare it to other games that are currently on the market. I rather want a grindy content instead of content that just consits of dailys.
The best, the better, the experienced, the King for a Mod - Fool for a lifetime.
Whats the reason makes it necessary to tell about his own point of view how good/worse himself is doing??
U can run dungeons and buy the fishing and he stuff with ADs.
And farming 1-2 hours VB a month isnt killing the fun atleast for me.
Mod 8 added 2 skirmeshes with less mechanics then 1 he has. And 1"raid" which is just brainless smashing buttons at the boss.
Mod 9 only 1 easy dungeon which gets boring after the first run.
Mod 10 now has atleast more content then the last 2 combined
This so called "dungeon" generates the new epen DDs. No one cares about running out of red circles...no one cares about staying close together for hyperthermie....just "switch your brain off and make DPS. What a "great" grp experience.....
I've already heard many players state they won't run SVA after getting their gear upgraded. You think getting a group together now is hard, try getting a group together a month or two from now.
I ran hundreds of demo, POM and TODG in search of the fabled +5 rings. Finally got one that was useless for PVE. I'm expecting the same result in getting the high tiered marks to upgrade my weapons.
To keep this content viable for any length of time certain items need to be BOE. Let users sell marks and mats for vilifying on the AH. Rings from content should be BOE so they can be sold if the user doesn't need them. If selling the rings is deemed bad for the economy maybe put an exchange agent in PE so folks can exchange for a ring they need.
I know it sounds like I just want to buy the best gear. Not really, I just want to be able to get the gear. Right now I'm pretty certain no amount of running the content will change my luck.
TLDR: Keep RNG in the lockboxes where it belongs. Otherwise, let us earn what the game has to offer.
We have some players that play a lot and they have to incorporate some voinblood farming into there routine but I work full time so when i come home I do my SH dailies for the influence and do my storm kings thunder dailies (1 in each location for the rep only since i have 500+ wood) and I don't ever have to farm voinblood unless I'm unlocking a boon.
I wear the 150 boots fully empowered and when i want to go into FBI i pop on the gauntlets and pop a potion (take off gauntlets when i get in but leave the boots on) the voinblood i get from the fbi because of our completion time is more than i get in combat time for that days play.
The last time i farmed voinblood was a week or so ago for the 4th boon. Waiting on getting enough campaign currencies for the final boon then realistically i wont ever need to do the dailies till part 2.
4,300 Tankadin
I guess we are talking about the unemployed and the eploiters....
No one plays the event in MSVA, but this has nothing to do with GS. Its just a constellation of the group, enough debuffs and OFC enough AAs. Thats all. We tried it in our guild to play MSVA with the events and without spaming AA. Harder, but can be done also. And to spam AA you dont need BIS gear, same for bubble. And theese so called "mobs" and "bosses" got no def, i guess. Every DPS class can deal huge damage. And...you dont need BIS gear for it.
We are running with our guilde very often. Not all of them got BIS gear and....its no need for it in MSVA.
If the group knows the mechanics of the raid and plays accordingly its not all that hard.
I have to laugh every time i see someone write a messange like that:
SUPER HIGH MEGA ULTRA HDPS WITH BONDINGS 12 AND TRANS WEAPON AND LEG MOUNT LF MSVA.
The 4k pumped up his GS by slotting 12´s in defence slots, by enforcing his gear etc.
These days I read in PE chat things like : "lfm VT fast run 3k+" and other stupid things. My ignore list can´t swallow all those ppl. It´s too much, and it´s getting worse from my PoV.
Boring content and stupid, mindmelting grind to get a new weaponset on top this playerbase...
Svardborg and FBI should be separated, the requirement of running FBI to be able to do Svardborg is very off setting for many lower IL players (under 4k), who meet all the requirements, just are simply left out of Svardborg, because of the all time topping elitism.
Elitism is gone no so far for Svardborg, that classes (TR here) even if they meet the said requirements are mostly left out. Even in dedicated channels people usually form their small group and only ask for AA DCs and some tanks or MoFs, others can go and well i guess fish (sarcasm).
I have also noticed a new slang word "HHDPS", i was like wtf and needed to ask a friend what it was, although i had some ideas what it could be. He told me, you need to have a full BiS toon, preferably from the most needed classes, full set of rank 20 guild boons, 4K+ toon and full rank 12 bondings.
But what i found the most hilarious, was the fact, that the same people usually running this "HHDPS" when going into a bit of cool down from all the mark collecting and wanting to do a few normal dungeons are asking for the same "HHDPS" for a normal eToS (lol).
Power creep is getting out of hand and with it the circle of enjoyable content for average Joes is shrinking in this game. Cryptic should stop now with pushing out new barriers into the game. They and only they are the ones, who can stop the elitist mentality totally destroying the game. Don't forget, they are pushing out the insane power creep and they are the supervisors in this kindergarten, only they can tame the bad habits of people.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
What should i say? PING PING PING, the best one offers a map in a bottle if i will join^^
But like i allways say to them: you dont take my cw the last view days, now i wont give you my DC these days.
One day I tried to make a fun post like "3.9 Tiefling SW born in the Nine Hells, I worship Tymora because the game didn't give me the option of worshipping Mephistopheles (my favorite Archduke) or Beshaba (the infamous lady of misfortune), stat distribution 16 12 16, heroic feats distribution zzzzz. 4 epic mounts, all purple insignias, 102.3% crit with bondings, 39,788 unbuffed power, all campaigns maxed, I do zzz dps in a 2 dc group and zzz dps in a 3 dc group." I put more funny and useless info but can't recall. I thought it would be hilarious but it wouldn't fit in a single message, people could consider it a spam so I just said "nevermind".
All that merchandising made me leave these channels, I couldn't stand all that nonsense posts.
And the most hilarious is when they link their legendary new weapon set...even worse when they link the new weapon set as purple or blue in rarity, it's hilarious.
Man, who cares if you have a legendary mount? Who cares if you use a trans enchantment? Who cares if you got the new weapon set? lol
Edit: 3 x letters in a row turns into hamster omg. So I changed to zzz
Hælja, Swordmaster Conqueror Guardian Fighter of Thieves World
A proud member of "mythical horde of DPS GFs"
1). Is SW more dps or tank based?
2). Yes. I am panzer!
3). Get ACT if you want to celebrate your epeen.
4). Horniness will not stand between me and what I believe - "MM"
OP - Sunshine: 16000 IL
Casual Dailies
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BTW it was an alliance run and we are in the same alliance. I did not get the TRs name, but AFAIK he was even in the same guild as the 2nd TR.