Cannot PUG FBI

santralafax · November 2016

I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.

thefabricant · November 2016

Stop trying to pug it, you won't get a group that way.

beckylunatic · November 2016

thefabricant said:
Stop trying to pug it, you won't get a group that way.

Even if you managed to get in, chances of completion would be strongly unlikely. (Which is why people are not accessing it via random queue group.)

thefabricant · November 2016

beckylunatic said:

thefabricant said:
Stop trying to pug it, you won't get a group that way.
Even if you managed to get in, chances of completion would be strongly unlikely. (Which is why people are not accessing it via random queue group.)

Exactly.

swirve · November 2016

PUG queues are generally bad in all mmos. Have you tried zone chat lfg...usually ppl know what they are doing there...

rjc9000 · November 2016

swirve#6429 said:
PUG queues are generally bad in all mmos. Have you tried zone chat lfg...usually ppl know what they are doing there...

<_<

Have you seen some of the people in the LFG in PE?

"LF3M 3k+ for Lostmauth need HDPS/tank/etc..."

uh... 3k Ilvl... for Lostmauth? At that point, you're pretty much saying "carry me pls".

To answer the OP, Becky and Sharp have it right: everyone will be running premades where they can control the composition. PuGs tend to be luck of the draw, as already stated.

namelesshero347 · November 2016

It will be even harder to pug AoS where you need 10 people who were willing to make the monkey suit. Epic AoS will require a miracle just for the queue to pop.

asterotg · November 2016

I just PUG dungeons, if I or the mate I am grouped with could do it on my/our own. Most PuGs are that bad.

schietindebux · November 2016

I group in PE allways and in some chats. I don´t know those player most time, so it´s a pug run, but it works that way. The Queue is a waste of time for CN and FBI, even ndemo is hard to take, headache guaranteed.
But I love those matches in PoM and Dwarven Throne, watching player dazing and smashing those hulks with a lot of passion, to prevent your group from getting out of that dungeon, that´s why I queue there a lot

nic1985 · November 2016

While doing dailies in different campaign zones, i pug queue for most dungeons (MC/Kessel/eSoT/VT/elol/eToS/CN/PoM).

With the realities that most pug party can be frustrated and take longer to run. It is also fun, make new friends and provide some challenges.

If ndemo/edemo/FBI/etc... queues are more active, i know i would public queue for it too!

ajlir · November 2016

nic1985 said:
While doing dailies in different campaign zones, i pug queue for most dungeons (MC/Kessel/eSoT/VT/elol/eToS/CN/PoM).

With the realities that most pug party can be frustrated and take longer to run. It is also fun, make new friends and provide some challenges.

If ndemo/edemo/FBI/etc... queues are more active, i know i would public queue for it too!

I missed that DragonBorn OP Devo that kept me alive for the entire fight when 3 of us got wiped in eToS boss with around 60% HP left.

I missed that Pathfinder Combat HR that leaps with Slasher's Mark first before anything else in ToDG.

I missed that 3 HRs with all of them took 3 different capstones running Kessel. Mine's in Combat. 2 of them took Archer and Trapper.

Very fun to queue with random people, as long as they're good ones.

wdj40 · November 2016

santralafax said:
I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.

Uh oh... I wonder if it is like this on the Xbox as well... I PUG I would say 95% of the time for fun and randomness.

beckylunatic · November 2016

wdj40 said:

santralafax said:
I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.
Uh oh... I wonder if it is like this on the Xbox as well... I PUG I would say 95% of the time for fun and randomness.

That's fine when you can be relatively confident that you can find a way to carry the party regardless of their gear and skill. That isn't feasible in Fangbreaker.

santralafax · November 2016

beckylunatic said:

wdj40 said:

santralafax said:
I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.
Uh oh... I wonder if it is like this on the Xbox as well... I PUG I would say 95% of the time for fun and randomness.
That's fine when you can be relatively confident that you can find a way to carry the party regardless of their gear and skill. That isn't feasible in Fangbreaker.

I don't dispute you, Becky, but I do know people said the same about CN, and eventually, it did become Pug-able. I don't make it through everytime, but there is great satisfaction when I do. And we're at least at a 50-50 there (100% with a strong tank.)

beckylunatic · November 2016

I'm not saying that it won't *ever* be feasible in Fangbreaker, but now is not the time.

ironzerg79 · November 2016

santralafax said:

beckylunatic said:

wdj40 said:

santralafax said:
I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.
Uh oh... I wonder if it is like this on the Xbox as well... I PUG I would say 95% of the time for fun and randomness.
That's fine when you can be relatively confident that you can find a way to carry the party regardless of their gear and skill. That isn't feasible in Fangbreaker.
I don't dispute you, Becky, but I do know people said the same about CN, and eventually, it did become Pug-able. I don't make it through everytime, but there is great satisfaction when I do. And we're at least at a 50-50 there (100% with a strong tank.)

The original CN? That thing was only "pug-able" after it became so outdated, your typical pug was rocking a 15-16k gearscore.

Back in Vanilla when it was fresh and an 12k GS was the freaking bee's knees? No way.

santralafax · November 2016

ironzerg79 said:

santralafax said:

beckylunatic said:

wdj40 said:

santralafax said:
I typically pug dungeons and have all the way through CN. Now I find, after multiple tries, I cannot get a queue to pop for this dungeon. It's been out there 3 months or more. I don't know if they need to cut the Everfrost requirements or what, but they need to do something to make the dungeon more accessible.

I wait 20-30 minutes in the monkey suit, I mean Frost Born armor, and don't do anything else since I'm not geared appropriately.
Uh oh... I wonder if it is like this on the Xbox as well... I PUG I would say 95% of the time for fun and randomness.
That's fine when you can be relatively confident that you can find a way to carry the party regardless of their gear and skill. That isn't feasible in Fangbreaker.
I don't dispute you, Becky, but I do know people said the same about CN, and eventually, it did become Pug-able. I don't make it through everytime, but there is great satisfaction when I do. And we're at least at a 50-50 there (100% with a strong tank.)
The original CN? That thing was only "pug-able" after it became so outdated, your typical pug was rocking a 15-16k gearscore.

Back in Vanilla when it was fresh and an 12k GS was the freaking bee's knees? No way.

Never got to run the original. Bring it on!! (I did enter it once in Mod 5, but didn't get a chance to complete. Made it as far as the dragon.)

dfnce · November 2016

Considering past KR history with his BI gear requirements, how BI gear got obsoleted in mod 6 and after all KR became publicly available, what is a reason to pursue FBI or any other objectives of mod 10 / 10.5 content ?

Take into account that boon leveling for previous campaigns became relaxed as well after time, which include WoD and IWD.

I am not saying people who doing the campaign do it wrong, but one fish quest was enough to me to discourage and stop do this HAMSTER. I had no issues with my DC to kill stuff, but i had feeling with fishes that devs treat players as wicked idiots who should enjoy any BS they make.

excalibur1980 · November 2016

Same here. I pass hour to get a party in Pe posting in lfg, but no luck. 2 chars +3k ilvl. Till now only 2 SVA... People only see ilvl, so if you have lower than 3.5 forget it .....

sundance777 · November 2016

Quit standing around, you're leaking voinblood! I am guessing the requirements are limiting the number of people that can enter, I have not had the time or energy to hit the requirements myself otherwise I might be trying to PUG it up one time just to see the mechanics.

Cannot PUG FBI

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