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Please stop adding items we can farm to the lock boxes

grroupergrrouper Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 578 Arc User
edited November 2016 in Player Feedback (PC)
One problem for the last year or so is there are less and less ways to make AD in the game . One big factor is many of those items can now be gotten from lock boxes and have cause the price to drop to the point farming for them is a waste of time. we used to make ok AD from getting greater marks in the dread ring but after they was added to lock box the value is 1/4 of what is was .Same goes for young yeti if a person was lucky to get him he could sell for 140K now because you can get a blue one from lockbox it is only worth 40K . And now you add the lostmauth horn of blasting tp new lockbox just look at the value was 800k and now just 350 and sure it will be closer to 200k soon so no point to farm that now .Really why are they taking all the AD sources from us ? And yet the lead dev said he would look into better rewards yet does he not realize we are losing the value of the few good rewards that are left because of adding these items to lockboxes.

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    kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    +1. This please.
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    ajlir#7970 ajlir Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    grrouper said:

    One problem for the last year or so is there are less and less ways to make AD in the game . One big factor is many of those items can now be gotten from lock boxes and have cause the price to drop to the point farming for them is a waste of time. we used to make ok AD from getting greater marks in the dread ring but after they was added to lock box the value is 1/4 of what is was .Same goes for young yeti if a person was lucky to get him he could sell for 140K now because you can get a blue one from lockbox it is only worth 40K . And now you add the lostmauth horn of blasting tp new lockbox just look at the value was 800k and now just 350 and sure it will be closer to 200k soon so no point to farm that now .Really why are they taking all the AD sources from us ? And yet the lead dev said he would look into better rewards yet does he not realize we are losing the value of the few good rewards that are left because of adding these items to lockboxes.

    1. It's actually a good thing that the prize has dropped in AH.
    2. I'm sorry but I don't have an idea what you're trying to achieve here. What do you want from trying to go back to the prize hike you spoke of?
    3. 200k AD is still AD. What do you mean by no point to farm that now?
    4. Seriously, I'm thinking that you're trying to monopolize the market here. Please explain further. Non-paying players will be even poorer than it is if prizes went up 4 times.
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    lantern22lantern22 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,111 Arc User
    I think what they are getting at is, that if you farm Lostmauth, the only decent thing you can get the moment is the Horn and now, because it is in the Lockbox, it isn't worth farming anymore because the price has dropped. i.e. it has taken AD away from free to pay players and added it into the lockboxes which are pay to play.

    I'm not sure where I sit with this one. I don't really like how everything is being gated behind a pay wall but also I'm not sure I think it is hard to earn AD at the moment.

    I must admit, I have been waiting for the Horn to drop in price so I can buy one for my GWF, perhaps subconsciously I'm just being selfish.
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    namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    Wow, the horn went for 800K. I remember it was going for 400K right before the blue salvage nerf. With less people running eLoL guess its expected the price would rise a bit. Should be a good the lockbox is driving the price back down. 800K is a lot for a newer player now.
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    wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    i think there is a reason why they add to boxes, to lower and control the prices in attempt to break 3rd party sellers who set prices and run up inflation, once they sells ADs and they mark up to get "thier" own ADs back from buyers.
    i think it is right thing to do to break 3rd party's stranglehold on market and to bring back to "Player's Market" as it was meant to be. less ADs farming the better.
    if we allow 3rd party, they will keep increasing the price so high, and new players will either give up playing or risk the account get banned if they buy because there no way for them to earn ADs by themselves and gather ADs for 2-3 years to catch up to meet that high priced items and then items get obsolute or wait for new shiney.
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    namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    grrouper said:

    Besides buying at auction house should be last act of desperation even 400 is a lot for an item that you can get if you just work at farming elol 3 times a day and in a month or so you should have the drop np.

    The thing with the RNG is sometimes it can suck giant balls. I used to farm eLoL with four well geared toons. Two runs a day each toon with not much failures. I would get one horn every two or three months. There was one week I got two horns, actually two entire lostmeal sets, neck, belt, and artifact. I stopped farming it after the blue salvage nerf since I figured I can get more in salvage from running eToS instead and not rely on RNG for a jackpot.

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    lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    @grrouper has a point and it's something @silverkelt raised a while back. There is almost nothing worthwhile to farm in the game anymore. Cryptic are systematically removing all sources of AD from the game. Next lockbox will have Orcus shard in it, making CN pointless to farm for those that do.
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    beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I actually prefer more accessibility to what Foss referred to as "chase loot", which does result in reduced sell prices if there is more supply, but I have this starry-eyed vision that nobody should need so much AD that it matters when you can't sell an X for one meelyun ADs.

    I don't think economic balance in this game comes from enforcing scarcity.

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