[PS4] My friends and my guild leader already say GF sucks. Now Patch 10 is coming. Need some insight

flyersfan314 · September 2016

I really need to hear from some PC players. What is the consensus on the GF? Also from other players do you feel the GF is equal to the OP?

shontsu · September 2016

Already? As in right now? That's just silly, unless you're all undergeared maybe? Pally's seem more survivable as you're starting out. My DR is just over 50% atm. For something like 6 out of 8 seconds that means the entire party is getting a 50% damage increase. Find me the DPS that doesn't want a free 50% boost to damage for 3/4 of a fight? As my gear improves, the boost will go up, and the time it's not available will go down. In my guild people get big smiles when I'm around to tank (at this stage I think I'm the only GF tank in the guild, definately the highest geared).

Now the future...that's a different story and I'd like to hear from the PC guys too. My impression is that it's more equal, but I'm not sure how gear/boon dependant we are to compete.

abmaiden95 · September 2016

Lot of people crying here on pc because gf is too often top dps in pve and pvp and as a tank it's one of most asked class togheter with dc

stark760 · September 2016

I'd say they made it harder to get from item level 1800 to 2500-3000, but then you will be wanted. A lot.

lantern22 · September 2016

GF is fine. Mod10 was a very minor nerf. Some ppl say no nerf at all, but I think to most GF's it was a very small nerf via ITF, Tide of Iron & Lunging Strike changes

oliboyph · September 2016

It's a big adjustment, but GF does not suck.

flyersfan314 · September 2016

Why is it a big adjustment? You seem to be in the minority here. That does not make you wrong though.

wabber · September 2016

Our movement speed got nerfed with a higher cool down with lunging strike. Our movement speed got buffed with steel grace from sm.
Itf got brought down to 30% or geared in tactician 35%. Still a A very viable buff just not oh HAMSTER op my group down x boss in 5 seconds now it takes for well geared groups 20-30 seconds.

Mod 10 brought out the conqueror spec for a lot of us to try again and we like it. Still able to do all content and have some dps to contribute to group? Yep not going back to tact or defender for a long while.
Commanders strike is a bit wonky atm doing a lot of damage if your group coordinates right, pissing a lot of dps off if they care about paingiver. Now of you have a group that cares more about completing content faster then it's great. just a simple search of @thefabricant and he has a chart posted in another topic here showing some of the workings of cs.

Edit http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1221446/the-future-of-the-gf/p1
About halfway down thefabricant post with chart on cs

wabber · September 2016

PvP wise tell your guild leader to watch this video and see if he/she says it sucks

https://youtu.be/ZpkEIicRqXc

oliboyph · September 2016

flyersfan314#7217 said:
Why is it a big adjustment? You seem to be in the minority here. That does not make you wrong though.

You can't just spam ITF and cast dailies and have perma-steel defense. Before I can run CN without a healer and just buff DPS by 180% and carry a 2.5k ilvl team to the end. That is not the case anymore, hence it's a big adjustment.

Also forgot to add: Before we just stacked defense, now we should only limit our DR to 80%. You don't only need to adjust your gears, you might also need to adjust your boons.

I'm not quite sure why you think only a minority think that the GF nerf is not a big adjustment. The reaction made by the GF population on the nerfs were quite emphatic.

greyhawk · October 2016

Your friends and guild leader don't know what they're talking about. Even during the bubble pally heyday - which ps4 never saw - I tanked as well as any pally, AND buffed a helluva lot better.

With mod 10 on the horizon (I'm on Xbox) I've respecd Conq and still tank just fine. And, just this morning I came 2nd in damage during an alliance edemo. I only lost to a 4200 ilvl GWF that was in my ItF group.

GFs are in a fine spot now, so don't listen to those guys...

brucewayne · October 2016

Why do you choose for conquer ? What's new? I'm on ps4 and I'm going to tactican. Why shall I go conquer ? I need some details. Atm I'm conquer and tanking is horrible.

urabask · October 2016

brucewayne#8522 said:
Why do you choose for conquer ? What's new? I'm on ps4 and I'm going to tactican. Why shall I go conquer ? I need some details. Atm I'm conquer and tanking is horrible.

Once you're at the DR cap and have enough stamina boons your feats don't have all that much to do with your ability to tank. So now that ITF is less effective going conqueror is a little worse for parties but makes grinding campaigns a lot faster.

brucewayne · October 2016

But I'm at gs 2300.not ready yet all campaigns. I want to go more skirmishes but my equip is not good as I need for tank I think. Perhaps I'm wrong ...maybe

greyhawk · October 2016

At your ilvl I'd go with a Prot build or maybe Tactician. Never played Prot personally, but I know Tact was pretty good. Sure it still is for the boost to ItF and party AP gain.

At 3.4k ilvl I'm digging Conq, but I may change my mind when I get to FBI...

tostrek2012 · October 2016

@brucewayne, I am in the same boat. I am currently at around 2.4k, not including utilities enchants. I should have gone with Tactician as @greyhawk said just now. Now, I have to use a retraining token because I am in the conquerer path. Later, when I get to FBI, I will have to use another retraining token for Tactician.

zman81420 · October 2016

If your guild doesn't appreciate a GF in the party you may want to look elsewhere. We mitigate group damage, buff DPS and hold threat. What the heck else could a group ask for? Just focus on obtaining your 80% damage resistance and fill needs elsewhere either deflect, recovery, or power.

[PS4] My friends and my guild leader already say GF sucks. Now Patch 10 is coming. Need some insight

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