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return the pvp solo queue now!

royineverroyinever Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 162 Arc User
edited September 2016 in General Discussion (PC)
its been 2 days since no more solo queue and here is the situation

1. 90% of all the new players that joined pvp since last week event gone by now
2. we returned to 1000-0 matches in every 1 out of 2-3 games
3. section 2 happen because pugs vs premades returned in full force
4. the nub "elite" players who was scared to queue solo now returned with their full premade just to stomp pugs , not all of them but alot of players i didnt saw during the last week now start trash talk again when they have their full premade support againt all pug team

all of the above and more just really take the fun of pvp and the motivation to stay and continue to support the game

just return it so the pvp community will get in the right direction again

and yes , it will be only the start of grand plan that needed for pvp

step 2 - add also dou\trio queue

step 3 - full premade queue

step 4 - implant rewards based of those 3 queues , aka premade get the best rewards, dou\trio after , then at the end the solo queue rewards

3 tiers with 3 rewards system

about what kind of rewards each tier should give i think its for another topic , right now just return the solo queue !

ty






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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    i demonstratively stop pvping again at thursday. i can only imagine its full premade after full premade after full premade after full premade all over the weekend. let other guys enjoy the mess. I am only three wins to get full prestige set, enough time next week. if you care for solo que return, stop demonstratively queing now at least for the weekend ...
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    With great wisdom, the solo queue was followed by 2xGlory--so premades have double reasons to farm.
  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    Next - add solo, duo, trio TEAM matches. That is, queue for 1-1, 2-2, 3-3 matches in addition to 5-5. Allow solo and premade versions of all.
  • kiraskytowerkiraskytower Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Personally I'd like to see the a duo queue so you can queue with a friend. I'd also like to see the single and duo queues restrict it so you don't have more than 2 people in a party from the same guild as I noticed some of the PvP guilds were gaming the queue to get their premades in.
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  • sneak#6191 sneak Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    royinever said:

    its been 2 days since no more solo queue and here is the situation

    1. 90% of all the new players that joined pvp since last week event gone by now
    2. we returned to 1000-0 matches in every 1 out of 2-3 games
    3. section 2 happen because pugs vs premades returned in full force
    4. the nub "elite" players who was scared to queue solo now returned with their full premade just to stomp pugs , not all of them but alot of players i didnt saw during the last week now start trash talk again when they have their full premade support againt all pug team

    all of the above and more just really take the fun of pvp and the motivation to stay and continue to support the game

    just return it so the pvp community will get in the right direction again

    and yes , it will be only the start of grand plan that needed for pvp

    step 2 - add also dou\trio queue

    step 3 - full premade queue

    step 4 - implant rewards based of those 3 queues , aka premade get the best rewards, dou\trio after , then at the end the solo queue rewards

    3 tiers with 3 rewards system

    about what kind of rewards each tier should give i think its for another topic , right now just return the solo queue !

    ty






    Nice assumptions on #3. I saw (and know) several players who normally roll in premades playing solo queue. The general consensus from the ones I knew was that it's fun and they enjoy that it's not totally one-sided almost every game.

    You sound like a jelly hater, the way you talk about these people...

    I could only imagine 1 guild/alliance that could possibly be trash talking players while they are a premade.. Ignore those guys man (I think we all know who).

    And read more, assume less. They already said that the solo queue was a trial to collect data on it.
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  • jumpingmorksjumpingmorks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    I saw plenty of PvP guilds in the solo queues too, I also saw several who were obviously trying to game the system by queuing at the same time. Am sure there was some overlap there but in general I had fun with the solo queues, as opposed to the normal dom where you pug by yourself and hope to get into a team stronger than the other team.

    I don't mind working for my daily win and had to in the solo queue but with normal dom it's just queue over and over till you find yourself opposite a team that doesn't stomp your team.
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User



    Nice assumptions on #3. I saw (and know) several players who normally roll in premades playing solo queue. The general consensus from the ones I knew was that it's fun and they enjoy that it's not totally one-sided almost every game.

    @sneak#6191 So if you lost a match badly, requeued and found you were against THE SAME FIVE TOONS all over again, what would you think??? I am sure they landed on the same side again as a coincidence, right?
  • sneak#6191 sneak Member Posts: 86 Arc User



    Nice assumptions on #3. I saw (and know) several players who normally roll in premades playing solo queue. The general consensus from the ones I knew was that it's fun and they enjoy that it's not totally one-sided almost every game.

    @sneak#6191 So if you lost a match badly, requeued and found you were against THE SAME FIVE TOONS all over again, what would you think??? I am sure they landed on the same side again as a coincidence, right?
    I meant #4... typo..

    Anyways what you quoted had nothing to do with me saying they didn't intentionally queue premade teams..

    and so what if they do? stop your whining and keep playing until you get your win or get some friends and queue with them.

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  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    Why can't people type answers without getting aggressive? The best replies to ignorant statements are intelligent ones.
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  • jumpingmorksjumpingmorks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    Cos the real PvP happens on the forums.
  • frozenfirevrfrozenfirevr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,475 Community Moderator
    You can't actually 'game' the queue into a pre-made... It's random, the dudes might end up in opposing team too.

    The so called 'elites' usually play with friends, so they were probably queuing together through the regular queue as always while the solo queue was up, or didn't bother with solo queue even if they were playing solo. That's a good thing and gives a fighting chance to new PUGs. Don't simply say they were afraid.

    This still is a game, you killing them ain't gonna actually do anything to them. If somebody didn't respect what you said, could've been missed communication, foreign language or just arrogant behaviour on a person to person basis.
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    vinceent1 said:

    i demonstratively stop pvping again at thursday. i can only imagine its full premade after full premade after full premade after full premade all over the weekend. let other guys enjoy the mess. I am only three wins to get full prestige set, enough time next week. if you care for solo que return, stop demonstratively queing now at least for the weekend ...

    Spot on bro!

    It's either a massacre or a waste of time, more so cause as i have written in another thread, the algorithm seems to have died. If you have the rare luck not to encounter a premade, than you will get either a full high IL or a full low IL team by your side, so outcome is kinda same, sit and talk. lol

    Since the event ended the last 2 days i can only find full premades in 9 out of 10 matches. Yesterday it was FR guild time, today it was GB's day.

    To me it seems they have an agreement, who gets the cookies that day.

    Being frank i have to admit both guilds did it the gentleman way, you could get your points- well mostly that is-, except in a few cases, when somebody wanted to PUGstomp, but overall it was clean as a whistle, you could have the feeling it was lab clean, jump down, say gg and cap for points, then wait till match ends and maybe have a chat here and there. If it wasn't for PVP i would say it was like a talk show. OMG what the heck is this at all. :s

    So big YES, bring back solo! It wasn't perfect, some BiS duo/trio premades were out for easy kills, but overall way better, than this now.

    Wonder which guild is on the menu tomorrow.

    P.S: Oh did i say- probably 100 times by now-, that leader board is such a waste.

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  • mynaammynaam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I tried the solo pvp and it was just the same old same old so I guess from the stats cryptic would have seen that solo pvp did not help boost the pvp numbers a significant amount.

    From my side I think it was a massive failure. Yet another PVP bomb. If they don't put players with the same tenacity and item level together PVP will continue to be the laughing stock it is now. I have spoken to a lot of people about PVP and the vast majority says it is simply not worth it anymore
    There are more than BIS players in this game
    RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
    FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
    Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)



  • saiuriefayesaiuriefaye Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    I agree i COMPLETELY want the solo queue back and i hope we get it soon not something we have to wait until next mode for. i was seriously about to quite the game (and may still) but a solo queue would probably keep me around for alot longer. it was fun reminded me of pvp back in the OLD days when pvp was still fun
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  • jumpingmorksjumpingmorks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    etelgrin said:

    the regular domination queue reminds me alot of when first demogorgon was released, people had to sync queue to get the people they wanted and is the same in Dom, you have to sync queue with the other premade if you like to have fun with them, gosh I wish it would just be adjusted to the point we have now in PvE, people chose their teams and go in the compositions they want to.

    They do that, it's called premades.

  • vangiggsyvangiggsy Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    I thought the solo queue worked pretty well. Prior to it could take up 10 attempts to get a balanced fight and have any chance of winning. On average during the TRIAL AND DATA GATHERING it took one or two for a fairly even fight. Of course with the limited number of pvp players (due to the fact that going against bis groups gets old) there would still occasionally be some imbalance in the trial, however I think things would improve and even out with solo over time as more players realized it was becoming more balanced.
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  • sneak#6191 sneak Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    royinever said:



    Nice assumptions on #3. I saw (and know) several players who normally roll in premades playing solo queue. The general consensus from the ones I knew was that it's fun and they enjoy that it's not totally one-sided almost every game.

    You sound like a jelly hater, the way you talk about these people...

    I could only imagine 1 guild/alliance that could possibly be trash talking players while they are a premade.. Ignore those guys man (I think we all know who).

    And read more, assume less. They already said that the solo queue was a trial to collect data on it.


    hmm..u tell me to read but do u know how to read?

    i said alot and not all of the "elite" pvpers,and u take it personal XD wonder what it tell about u
    let me make it simple for u maybe u have trouble understanding

    fact - a lot (and not all) of the "elite" pvpers didnt participated while solo queue event was on
    fact - now the same players u see them in full premade right after the event was over
    fact - some of them like to stomp pugs and trash talk while they do it
    fact - naive can go long way , "trial" , lol ok plz , they allready knew how solo queue will effect the community (in a good way) , they put in on "trial " to see stuff related to profit and business model (which i have pretty good guess excatly what they checked) , and it was not related if its good or not , ofc solo queue is good for the community
    solo queue will return in perma state i promise u that , question is timing , when the devs will think its best to milk that cow, but pressure of the community can help to make it faster
    so help , and dont ruin

    side note
    jelly ? lol ,definitely not in ur guild if i may say

    fact - i was in full pug team againt ur trio premade yesterday
    fact - match was over as soon as it begun
    fact - after gg call they didnt let my team cap
    fact - i asked 1 on1 againt ur gfs (there was 2 of them ) , but they were too scared i guess 1 on1 so they needed 2 gfs and 1 tr to bring my gf down :) and it was after several asking gg and "lets 1 on1 calls"
    fact - in general most of ur guild "elite" pvpers losses in 1 on1 most of the time againt players from other pvp guilds
    fact - shall i put link of speedflash fight ur full premade with his pve gf ? :)

    jelly ? learn ur facts first , not close





    You're the one who lacks English literacy, clearly... not me.

    Why are you assuming I took something personal just because I disagree with you? You must be pretty cocky to think that nobody could possibly think something different than you unless they are emotionally effected by your views.

    When you refer to players as "elite" this is a clear indication that anyone who owns you is in this category of fake eliteness and you're salty because you got wrecked. I've seen your type several times in MMORPGs and a few times in shooters.

    There's no where you're able to grab this data from to call this a "fact". Also, from what I saw in solo queue, there were plenty of people who you would consider "elite" who were playing there. In-fact, regular queue was hard to get into during the solo queue event so many people stopped even trying. And I'm not just making up that "fact", it's actually what several people have said and I stopped trying as well.

    Okay? If some people stomp noobs and trash talk so what? What do you want me to do about them? Stop crying and deal with it your self.

    So what if a company wants to make money? Stop whining if you don't like it and just quit playing. Also, stop with your nonsense of automatically jumping to blame capitalism at every chance you get. Whenever people make this claim they look extremely foolish. You call this a "fact" once again but once again you are only making claims, not facts. Facts require evidence to support them. You can't just call something a fact and it becomes one; it doesn't work that way.

    You weren't against "my trio premade" on the 17th because during the time the guild PvPs together I was asleep. Once again, NOT a fact.

    Nobody HAS to let you cap. That entire system is nonsense and should be thrown out the window. It's player-invented and unnecessary and hurts new players more than it helps (in more ways than one). However, that isn't the view of my guild as a whole and I know for a fact that this guild (at least when premade) does allow people to use the GG system). To the best of my knowledge almost all the players besides me and one more don't follow the GG thing when we solo queue. When we do premades people are instructed on TS whenever someone has said this and told not to attack that player.

    Saying "you had 2 GFs" doesn't tell me anything. you need to be more specific. Are you talking about a low ilvl new player or what? Also just because someone doesn't respond to you doesn't make something a "fact" that they are "afraid" to 1v1 you. They may have you blocked or not see the chat. I know I've been challenged in the past and didn't notice it until the scoreboard appeared because I was watching my other monitor until I saw the big popup in the middle of the game via peripheral vision.

    How could you possibly know what is considered the usual for us 1v1ing people? You would need to be there all of the times that we 1v1 in order to determine that most of the time we do it we lose. Also, who cares? Even if this was a fact (which from someone who is actually in the guild I can say I don't think so, Tim) it wouldn't really matter. To me anyway, I just don't care about 1v1 -- not to the extent a lot of people do. I don't find it that important.

    I have no idea what this last "fact" means. Your English is horrible...

    In addition to nothing you posted being a fact, a question by definition CANNOT be a fact. So it looks like all you did was type "fact - " then try to fill up a bunch of lines of nonsense gibberish. Do you know what the word "fact" means?


    Who are you anyways? You wanna sit here coming at me and my guild fowl and you haven't even said who you are.
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  • trabukeroootrabukerooo Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    I'm all for the return of the solo PVP que.
    The pre-made egos are overwhelming and just sad.²
  • meiramimeirami Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I would love it if the Domination Solo queue came back.

    I hope it isn't another great idea that happens once and is then completely forgotten like the Combat League before it or the last few dungeons still lost to the elemental cultists. I feel like we can't often have nice things in this game.
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited September 2016


    and so what if they do? stop your whining and keep playing until you get your win or get some friends and queue with them.

    I don't play for AD. I play for the matches. Yes, you read that--M*A*T*C*H*E*S.
  • nannhynannhy Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    Well i'm done with PVP until the queue returns also...premades suck. the first post in this thread has a very good concept that's worth giving a try..
  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    Yes, please return solo queue, made pvp fun again. I could play more alts. The next step should be a refined ilvl/enchantment-based matchmaking system with disabled armor-switching at the start of the match. :)
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  • solbergxsolbergx Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    although i already have the new warborn armor, i still needed the rose gold duelist rings so i could not experience the solo queue yet, but i supposed they are analyzing the data as they said, so we just need to wait!!
  • throsbithrosbi Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    The solo que was the reason I came back to the game after a 4/5 month or so break. I did not read the fine print until in game and realized it was for PVP. I gave up on PVP before the campaign system was introduced.

    Hey but at least I can pick up all the loot in 3 man dungeons without everyone crying about it :)
  • twenty2twentytwenty2twenty Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    I'm all for the return of solo queue. I've been playing Dom matches anyway, but everyone I know who PvPs regularly enjoys playing with random teams at least some of the time. Stomping everyone with a premade gets old about as fast as getting stomped by one for anyone who truly enjoys PvP.
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