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(PC) Question about stacking ArPen

santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
edited September 2016 in The Militia Barracks
Is there an upper limit in PVP, where more ArPen is just a wasted stat? 140% RI? 160%? 180%? I get a little confused on DR and Tenacity interaction, not to mention Deflect being yet a separate layer.... There are definitely players that seem virtually untouchable regardless of RI.

At any rate, if I'm wasting stacks of stats, I'd like to find out!
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    santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I've seen that on Combat HR's but not on a GWF.

    I think *Lancer* last posted 130.5 RI. I believe IcyDrake last posted 160 or 168 RI. I haven't noticed much difference between 140 and 156. I was just curious if anyone had tested this out or put together a spreadsheet comparing ArP vs Tenacity/DR.
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    jakob522jakob522 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    I think your standard average player will have roughly 130% total DR you need to cut through so GFs will have a bit more thus being harder to kill and something like and HR will have less than that making them easier to kill so it's just an average number I think.
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    icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    I only have like 90% RI now, it seem to work fine too lol :D
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    gomok72gomok72 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    I run about 120-130% RI, reason being I have fought a lot of CW (double bubble build), GWFs and GF at 90% RI and it was like tickling them with a feather ( I usually ended up dead). I have found that optimized for me as a SW was 120-130%. This RI gives me enough punch to get through their heavy defenses and T.Negation's/Feytouch's synergistic effects.

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    someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    20000 Arm.Pen = 149.24% RI
    17000 Arm.Pen = 129.99% RI
    14000 Arm.Pen = 110.22% RI
    11000 Arm.Pen = 89.79% RI

    25 CON = 15% RI
    25 CON (Constitution Focus) = 2.0% RI
    Forbidden Piercing = 3% RI
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    someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    I run 135% but it definitely seems like it's wasted.
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    santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    icyphish said:

    I only have like 90% RI now, it seem to work fine too lol :D

    Ah, so you have been changing things around. :-)

    I know when I went from 90% to 120%, back in Mod 7, I noticed a real difference. And I've put on some ArPen since then, but wondered if it was being wasted. I just threw my AxeBeak out the window for some other stats.

    Now if I could just find me a BI Warhorse....
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    santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    someonedies said:

    20000 Arm.Pen = 149.24% RI
    17000 Arm.Pen = 129.99% RI
    14000 Arm.Pen = 110.22% RI
    11000 Arm.Pen = 89.79% RI

    25 CON = 15% RI
    25 CON (Constitution Focus) = 2.0% RI
    Forbidden Piercing = 3% RI

    Those are some good stats to have on file. I was curious where other folks drew the line on ArPen, thanks for that as well!

    It is much easier to say 60% for PVE than decide what you need for PVP. That 60% came from players publishing tests--in that case Lazalia. PVP goes off into the stratosphere.
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    thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    I have published info for arp in my CW guide just fyi for anyone curious.
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    santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    thefabricant said:

    I have published info for arp in my CW guide just fyi for anyone curious.

    I'll check that out! You're one of the people I think about when I ask these questions, but I know you don't PVP.

    Edit: @thefabricant With the new PVP sets breaking 4000 tenacity, does that change your calculation? Would that put it closer to, say 110 RI?
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