which companion for bondings?

rayrdan · September 2016

i m doing some changes to my HR since combat seems to hit for peanuts an augmented stone is not enough anymore.

my actual companions are:

purple earth archon
purple air archon
chicken (summoned)
blue siege master
blue dancing blade

im looking for a companion to put some bondings on.
i would like something nice looking, with no active bonuses specific for trapper (Paranoid delusion for example), no fire archon/shadow demon (i want some different companions from my TR), if it has recovery/crit/power as stats is a nice thing (i dont know if they exist tho)

i really want to make combat work, it does damage in pvp and a pve stat distribution is perfect there too.
would you help me?

i was thinking to: the new lion or the pseudragon, which i heard grants combat advantage making aspect of the pack a no sense choice ( 1 more passive slot avaialable)

second:: since i really dont see any reason to be PF anymore even in pvp (except for pathfinder action with negation...sooo good) @lirithiel would you help me with a sw build? i heard you are happy with your damages.

..fun fact: i just broke my keyboard trying to kill a mosquito with a punch -.-

someonedies · September 2016

good looking?

well try paranoid that's not bis (coz no ring slots), but avenger equip for this pet quite cheap.

Sellsword/Neverember Guard Archer

aaramis75 · September 2016

I previously used Air archon as my summoned on my HR, and Fire on my TR. Air I preferred as it has the melee AoE spin attack which worked nicely with my Trapper who bundles mobs together.

But these days, I'm really favouring the Fire Archon. It stays ranged, often has the AI to move out of a red area, and otherwise survives much better while throwing decent dps (while nothing as good as, say, a shadow demon).

Give Fire a try if you have the spare AD.

rayrdan · September 2016

someonedies said:
good looking?

well try paranoid that's not bis (coz no ring slots), but avenger equip for this pet quite cheap.

Sellsword/Neverember Guard Archer

it seems to able to stack rising rings really fast..what s its name?

mayday · September 2016

it is a Sprite, there are Flame and Ice sprites, as well as just ”Sprite”
The wizard companion is good (3 ofence slots) and sellsword is good too, but they are only for bonding proc, while the sprite has the sweet +% to ap gain.

someonedies · September 2016

Sylph; there's only 2 offensive slots (-1 slot, -6% dmg);

but the active bonus for melee spec seems like overkill.

someonedies · September 2016

I have Paranoid Delusion on 2 characters and I love it.

Companion + Avenger Gear available for less than 500k AD. And it's Purple.

jonkoca · September 2016

For a long time I had a shadow demon active, then switched to a fire archon for the rings.

Since I went back to a PvP spec and gave up on the paingiver, I got bored of having a firey doofus following me around so atm. I've resurrected my old skull. At least he's funny.

Tbh. unless you really want to top the paingiver, and have a fairly maxed SW trapper build I don't think it matters, just pick one you like the look of, and slap some bondings and rings on it. The daily stuff will melt, HEs will be easy great successes, and you won't embarrass yourself in dungeons.

rayrdan · September 2016

someonedies said:
I have Paranoid Delusion on 2 characters and I love it.

Companion + Avenger Gear available for less than 500k AD. And it's Purple.

have you tried paranoid delusion on a hr? since its performaces varies with the owner class

rayrdan · September 2016

jonkoca said:
For a long time I had a shadow demon active, then switched to a fire archon for the rings.

Since I went back to a PvP spec and gave up on the paingiver, I got bored of having a firey doofus following me around so atm. I've resurrected my old skull. At least he's funny.

Tbh. unless you really want to top the paingiver, and have a fairly maxed SW trapper build I don't think it matters, just pick one you like the look of, and slap some bondings and rings on it. The daily stuff will melt, HEs will be easy great successes, and you won't embarrass yourself in dungeons.

the hr itself is maxed, i just need some ads to upgrade bondings to rank 12 and upgrade the companion to legendary.
sadly i spent my last ads to buy the orcus set and 3 perfect bondings.. my fault tho i m obsessed by having 2 chars totally independent one from the other and so i dont move gear around

wdj40 · September 2016

Here is a list of all my Companions... if you want to know specifically what they are like as a Summoned Companion just ask, I have tried and tested all of them

Actives :
Blink Dog - 5% CA
Erinys - 10% Crit Sev
Mercenary - 165 Power&Crit
Air Archon - 5% extra damage
Owlbear Cub - 50% of power as damage on a non-crit

In my bag gathering dust :
Battlefield Medic
Harper Bard
Warerat Thief
Neverember Guard Archer
Frost Mimic
Moonshae Druid
Cantankerous Mage
Young Yeti
Lillend
Slyblade Kobold
Redcap Powrie
Wandering Scarecrow
Cat
Panther
Ioun Stone of Allure
Black Ice Prospector
Earth Archon
Neverember Guard
Aranea
Pig
Fawn of Shiallia
Alchemist Experimenter
Zhentarim Warlock
Fire Archon
Bear Cub
Con Artist
Angel of Protection
Rust Monster
Dwarven Battlerager
Shadow Demon
Intellect Devourer
Stalwart Golden Lion

Let me know if you want me to make any clips of any of them or if you want a detailed breakdown of any of these Companions.

Just to let you know in advance the best ones are :
Mercenary (he procs Rising Rings the best, still broken with a Mount Bonus though, this guy still is BiS)
Aranea (this spider women is just plain amazing with 3 different powers)
Con Artist (3 Ring Slots and an attack with a 10% Defence debuff)
Pig (3 Offence slots and 3 personalised item slots, also a great active)
Harper Bard (for buffing purposes)

vinceent1 · September 2016

i am sitting on purple blink dog. cant compare, but he dies a lot . is it worth it upgrade to legendary?

rayrdan · September 2016

wdj40 said:
Here is a list of all my Companions... if you want to know specifically what they are like as a Summoned Companion just ask, I have tried and tested all of them

Actives :
Blink Dog - 5% CA
Erinys - 10% Crit Sev
Mercenary - 165 Power&Crit
Air Archon - 5% extra damage
Owlbear Cub - 50% of power as damage on a non-crit

In my bag gathering dust :
Battlefield Medic
Harper Bard
Warerat Thief
Neverember Guard Archer
Frost Mimic
Moonshae Druid
Cantankerous Mage
Young Yeti
Lillend
Slyblade Kobold
Redcap Powrie
Wandering Scarecrow
Cat
Panther
Ioun Stone of Allure
Black Ice Prospector
Earth Archon
Neverember Guard
Aranea
Pig
Fawn of Shiallia
Alchemist Experimenter
Zhentarim Warlock
Fire Archon
Bear Cub
Con Artist
Angel of Protection
Rust Monster
Dwarven Battlerager
Shadow Demon
Intellect Devourer
Stalwart Golden Lion

Let me know if you want me to make any clips of any of them or if you want a detailed breakdown of any of these Companions.

Just to let you know in advance the best ones are :
Mercenary (he procs Rising Rings the best, still broken with a Mount Bonus though, this guy still is BiS)
Aranea (this spider women is just plain amazing with 3 different powers)
Con Artist (3 Ring Slots and an attack with a 10% Defence debuff)
Pig (3 Offence slots and 3 personalised item slots, also a great active)
Harper Bard (for buffing purposes)

what does it make aranea good? do you have any vid?

rayrdan · September 2016

what about the priestess of sehanine moonbow? free 20% crit change should be neat

rayrdan · September 2016

One more: dwarven battlerager has fast attack speed and 3 ring slots... should be fun to run with +4 brutality +4 sudden deflect and +4 sudden precision

someonedies · September 2016

rayrdan said:

someonedies said:
I have Paranoid Delusion on 2 characters and I love it.

Companion + Avenger Gear available for less than 500k AD. And it's Purple.
have you tried paranoid delusion on a hr? since its performaces varies with the owner class

It uses the "Rapid Strike".

wdj40 · September 2016

vinceent1 said:
i am sitting on purple blink dog. cant compare, but he dies a lot . is it worth it upgrade to legendary?

It is only worth upgrading to Legendary if the Companion has an Active that will never, ever, leave your Actives list. Also unless you can afford to upgrade more than 1 to Legendary (I wont just purely in protest of how much it costs) you want to pick a Companion that is your favourite to use.

wdj40 · September 2016

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:
Here is a list of all my Companions... if you want to know specifically what they are like as a Summoned Companion just ask, I have tried and tested all of them

Actives :
Blink Dog - 5% CA
Erinys - 10% Crit Sev
Mercenary - 165 Power&Crit
Air Archon - 5% extra damage
Owlbear Cub - 50% of power as damage on a non-crit

In my bag gathering dust :
Battlefield Medic
Harper Bard
Warerat Thief
Neverember Guard Archer
Frost Mimic
Moonshae Druid
Cantankerous Mage
Young Yeti
Lillend
Slyblade Kobold
Redcap Powrie
Wandering Scarecrow
Cat
Panther
Ioun Stone of Allure
Black Ice Prospector
Earth Archon
Neverember Guard
Aranea
Pig
Fawn of Shiallia
Alchemist Experimenter
Zhentarim Warlock
Fire Archon
Bear Cub
Con Artist
Angel of Protection
Rust Monster
Dwarven Battlerager
Shadow Demon
Intellect Devourer
Stalwart Golden Lion

Let me know if you want me to make any clips of any of them or if you want a detailed breakdown of any of these Companions.

Just to let you know in advance the best ones are :
Mercenary (he procs Rising Rings the best, still broken with a Mount Bonus though, this guy still is BiS)
Aranea (this spider women is just plain amazing with 3 different powers)
Con Artist (3 Ring Slots and an attack with a 10% Defence debuff)
Pig (3 Offence slots and 3 personalised item slots, also a great active)
Harper Bard (for buffing purposes)
what does it make aranea good? do you have any vid?

Oooo I don't know if I have a video of her... I`ll just make one if I cannot find one. Give me an hour or so

She is good as she has 3 Offence Slots, 3 Personalised Equipment slots with 1 being a Ring, Neck and Waist. The 3 attacks keeps the Bonding Procs up and quickly, 2 of the attacks she has are ranged... Storm Pillar and Webbed Terrain, WT also slow targets caught up in the web, pity the web is fairly small. Her 3rd attack is melee attack dealing damage and poison damage. Being a Striker she gets Power/Crit/Arm Pen as her base stats. She looks really cool and changes form in battle

Active is Meh but I do like seeing Zaaaaaaapp on the screen every now and then when it procs

rayrdan said:
One more: dwarven battlerager has fast attack speed and 3 ring slots... should be fun to run with +4 brutality +4 sudden deflect and +4 sudden precision

Yeah he is just ok, he has a Defence slot which is a bit pants. If your going for him try the Rising Rings instead of the Sudden ones. He attacks fairly quickly so gets stacks up and you get the % of them with Bondings. Sudden Rings used to be better but now the Bondings proc and stay up with each Companion attack I find the 20-22 seconds of non-proc in long fights not to be as good any more. As the Gift procs and stays up I would rather have the Rising Rings procced and sent over

rayrdan said:
what about the priestess of sehanine moonbow? free 20% crit change should be neat

I have not seen or heard of this one

someonedies · September 2016

wdj40 said:

vinceent1 said:
i am sitting on purple blink dog. cant compare, but he dies a lot . is it worth it upgrade to legendary?
It is only worth upgrading to Legendary if the Companion has an Active that will never, ever, leave your Actives list. Also unless you can afford to upgrade more than 1 to Legendary (I wont just purely in protest of how much it costs) you want to pick a Companion that is your favourite to use.

I have 3 legendaries. I saw people with 5+.

Every mod something is added. Why do not pay for 15% of the stats or for the FotM?

wdj40 · September 2016

someonedies said:

wdj40 said:

vinceent1 said:
i am sitting on purple blink dog. cant compare, but he dies a lot . is it worth it upgrade to legendary?
It is only worth upgrading to Legendary if the Companion has an Active that will never, ever, leave your Actives list. Also unless you can afford to upgrade more than 1 to Legendary (I wont just purely in protest of how much it costs) you want to pick a Companion that is your favourite to use.
I have 3 legendaries. I saw people with 5+.

Every mod something is added. Why do not pay for 15% of the stats or for the FotM?

I`m completely free to play, 1mil AD for 1 Legendary companion is waaaaaaaaaay too much. I have got most of my Companions to Epic and would love to test all of them at Legendary. I do not really have a spare 100 mil AD though lol.

rayrdan · September 2016

wdj40 said:

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:
Here is a list of all my Companions... if you want to know specifically what they are like as a Summoned Companion just ask, I have tried and tested all of them

Actives :
Blink Dog - 5% CA
Erinys - 10% Crit Sev
Mercenary - 165 Power&Crit
Air Archon - 5% extra damage
Owlbear Cub - 50% of power as damage on a non-crit

In my bag gathering dust :
Battlefield Medic
Harper Bard
Warerat Thief
Neverember Guard Archer
Frost Mimic
Moonshae Druid
Cantankerous Mage
Young Yeti
Lillend
Slyblade Kobold
Redcap Powrie
Wandering Scarecrow
Cat
Panther
Ioun Stone of Allure
Black Ice Prospector
Earth Archon
Neverember Guard
Aranea
Pig
Fawn of Shiallia
Alchemist Experimenter
Zhentarim Warlock
Fire Archon
Bear Cub
Con Artist
Angel of Protection
Rust Monster
Dwarven Battlerager
Shadow Demon
Intellect Devourer
Stalwart Golden Lion

Let me know if you want me to make any clips of any of them or if you want a detailed breakdown of any of these Companions.

Just to let you know in advance the best ones are :
Mercenary (he procs Rising Rings the best, still broken with a Mount Bonus though, this guy still is BiS)
Aranea (this spider women is just plain amazing with 3 different powers)
Con Artist (3 Ring Slots and an attack with a 10% Defence debuff)
Pig (3 Offence slots and 3 personalised item slots, also a great active)
Harper Bard (for buffing purposes)
what does it make aranea good? do you have any vid?
Oooo I don't know if I have a video of her... I`ll just make one if I cannot find one. Give me an hour or so

She is good as she has 3 Offence Slots, 3 Personalised Equipment slots with 1 being a Ring, Neck and Waist. The 3 attacks keeps the Bonding Procs up and quickly, 2 of the attacks she has are ranged... Storm Pillar and Webbed Terrain, WT also slow targets caught up in the web, pity the web is fairly small. Her 3rd attack is melee attack dealing damage and poison damage. Being a Striker she gets Power/Crit/Arm Pen as her base stats. She looks really cool and changes form in battle

Active is Meh but I do like seeing Zaaaaaaapp on the screen every now and then when it procs
rayrdan said:
One more: dwarven battlerager has fast attack speed and 3 ring slots... should be fun to run with +4 brutality +4 sudden deflect and +4 sudden precision
Yeah he is just ok, he has a Defence slot which is a bit pants. If your going for him try the Rising Rings instead of the Sudden ones. He attacks fairly quickly so gets stacks up and you get the % of them with Bondings. Sudden Rings used to be better but now the Bondings proc and stay up with each Companion attack I find the 20-22 seconds of non-proc in long fights not to be as good any more. As the Gift procs and stays up I would rather have the Rising Rings procced and sent over
rayrdan said:
what about the priestess of sehanine moonbow? free 20% crit change should be neat
I have not seen or heard of this one

according to @thefabricant sudden rings on companions do not have down time

jonkoca · September 2016

I tested them on my fire archon this morning. They do have downtime. Your power spikes, then drops off. I've gone back to my shadow demon, for constant buff.

Note though, if fights last less than 8 seconds, then the ring buffs are better.

oldbaldyone · September 2016

Ive tried the sudden ones and only get the 8 second buff. The rising ones are probably better.

I dont know how people het the sudden stuff to stay up 100 percent.

wdj40 · September 2016

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:

rayrdan said:

wdj40 said:
Here is a list of all my Companions... if you want to know specifically what they are like as a Summoned Companion just ask, I have tried and tested all of them

Actives :
Blink Dog - 5% CA
Erinys - 10% Crit Sev
Mercenary - 165 Power&Crit
Air Archon - 5% extra damage
Owlbear Cub - 50% of power as damage on a non-crit

In my bag gathering dust :
Battlefield Medic
Harper Bard
Warerat Thief
Neverember Guard Archer
Frost Mimic
Moonshae Druid
Cantankerous Mage
Young Yeti
Lillend
Slyblade Kobold
Redcap Powrie
Wandering Scarecrow
Cat
Panther
Ioun Stone of Allure
Black Ice Prospector
Earth Archon
Neverember Guard
Aranea
Pig
Fawn of Shiallia
Alchemist Experimenter
Zhentarim Warlock
Fire Archon
Bear Cub
Con Artist
Angel of Protection
Rust Monster
Dwarven Battlerager
Shadow Demon
Intellect Devourer
Stalwart Golden Lion

Let me know if you want me to make any clips of any of them or if you want a detailed breakdown of any of these Companions.

Just to let you know in advance the best ones are :
Mercenary (he procs Rising Rings the best, still broken with a Mount Bonus though, this guy still is BiS)
Aranea (this spider women is just plain amazing with 3 different powers)
Con Artist (3 Ring Slots and an attack with a 10% Defence debuff)
Pig (3 Offence slots and 3 personalised item slots, also a great active)
Harper Bard (for buffing purposes)
what does it make aranea good? do you have any vid?
Oooo I don't know if I have a video of her... I`ll just make one if I cannot find one. Give me an hour or so

She is good as she has 3 Offence Slots, 3 Personalised Equipment slots with 1 being a Ring, Neck and Waist. The 3 attacks keeps the Bonding Procs up and quickly, 2 of the attacks she has are ranged... Storm Pillar and Webbed Terrain, WT also slow targets caught up in the web, pity the web is fairly small. Her 3rd attack is melee attack dealing damage and poison damage. Being a Striker she gets Power/Crit/Arm Pen as her base stats. She looks really cool and changes form in battle

Active is Meh but I do like seeing Zaaaaaaapp on the screen every now and then when it procs
rayrdan said:
One more: dwarven battlerager has fast attack speed and 3 ring slots... should be fun to run with +4 brutality +4 sudden deflect and +4 sudden precision
Yeah he is just ok, he has a Defence slot which is a bit pants. If your going for him try the Rising Rings instead of the Sudden ones. He attacks fairly quickly so gets stacks up and you get the % of them with Bondings. Sudden Rings used to be better but now the Bondings proc and stay up with each Companion attack I find the 20-22 seconds of non-proc in long fights not to be as good any more. As the Gift procs and stays up I would rather have the Rising Rings procced and sent over
rayrdan said:
what about the priestess of sehanine moonbow? free 20% crit change should be neat
I have not seen or heard of this one
according to @thefabricant sudden rings on companions do not have down time

As others have just mentioned yeah there is a downtime. You can test this just by letting your Companion hit away on a test dummy and you just stare at the stats screen. The Sudden ones used to be better due to multiprocs up to 6 stacks of Companions Gift.

Now as the Gift just re-applies every time Companion strikes, the Rising ones will proc on each Companion hit and get sent over. So a few seconds into the fight and you have 285% of the Rising Ring's sent over to you as well as buffing the Companion.

Anyhoo I had a nightmare today trying to do clips, my internet has been all over the place (upgrading it soon). I did 2 clips, 1 was a complete lag fest with rubberbanding all over the place and my powers just not firing half the time. Amazingly Arenea survived more in the lagfest than the not so laggy clip.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/wdj40/video/21227737

Complete lag fest clip http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/wdj40/video/21227996

Please note these clips were just made on a spur of the moment. I did not bother to equip Protectors Comadrie Mount Bonus and other bits I could have changed.

rayrdan · September 2016

thanks for the vid, it looks cool but definitely not my cup of tea.
Just respec'd to stormwarden btw, the lack of aoe at will was unbearable...no split strike sadly is almost totally single target.
I will probably be back to trans vorpal too

wdj40 · September 2016

rayrdan said:
thanks for the vid, it looks cool but definitely not my cup of tea.
Just respec'd to stormwarden btw, the lack of aoe at will was unbearable...no split strike sadly is almost totally single target.
I will probably be back to trans vorpal too

My bad, on further inspection not all of her attacks actually proc Gift I think the non-damage Webbed Terrain does not proc it. She is also fairly erratic at proccing the Rising Rings. But I think she looks pretty cool and has decent equip slots. I suggested her as she is better than a lot of Companions and nice to look at

Also instead of talking all the time she does this kind of sigh and sounds pretty cool.

I`m giving an Epic Con Artist a run out again... Really good now since the Bonding change, with 2 Offence and 1 Defence slot. Then 3 ring slots so I put a Rising Power, Rising Crit and any old ring with decent stats in the 3rd slot. 10% enemy defence debuff from his attacks is sweet.

I use Trans Dread and sold my Trans Fey for now... Been working on a lot of items and have a Pure Shadowclad now its not bad at all, cant see a good reason to make it Trans though. Stuck my Trans Elven in my Lionsmane Gear as just cannot sell that, wont be able to PvP ever if I sold that lol.

I have seen somewhere about the upcoming changes to some of the Enchants soon, Lightning will be interesting if it lowers cool downs

lirithiel · September 2016

As you want something different from your TR I won't suggest Shadow Demon even if I think it is the perfect choice for Combat. I haven't really given much thought to another companion but if I chose something else it has to have 3 offensive slots and a decent (not stats) active bonus. That doesn't leave many options:

Pseudodragon
Dancing Blade
Air Archon
Fire Archon
Vicious Dire Wolf
Book Imp
Pig (heard it is really good for GF so why not Combat HR)

Others with iffy active bonuses:

Sellsword (good debuff at epic)
Renegade Evoker
Young Yeti
Neverember Guard Archer
Phase Spider
Paranoid Delusion (heard it sucks for HRs)
Skyblade Kobold
Kenku Archer
Alchemist Experimenter
Cantankerous Mage
Elemental Air Cultist
Wayward Wizard
Cold Iron Warrior
Aranea
Phoera/Mystic Phoera
Death Slaad
Hawk
Honey Badger (not bad but not really suited to HR)
Tomb Spider
Boar
Jagged Dancing Blade
Lillend (not bad but not really suited to HR)
Snowy Fawn

* There could be others I missed as I was using the collections page.

durugudesu · September 2016

rayrdan said:
One more: dwarven battlerager has fast attack speed and 3 ring slots... should be fun to run with +4 brutality +4 sudden deflect and +4 sudden precision

more fun with 3 +4 brutality, pve wise. i dont use it tho as i dont like wasting a companion slot just for procing bondings. But since you dont like the fire archon, i have no suggestions sorry haha. XD

durugudesu · September 2016

rayrdan said:
what about the priestess of sehanine moonbow? free 20% crit change should be neat

I am not sure, but i think this companion does not proc protectors friendship/camaraderie, so i dont recommend this

which companion for bondings?

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