Ya its not overpowered but I make it work very well on xbox.
Find me in game if you want and send me a domination/ gaunt invite. If you are good and im not busy ill play with you. Im not an elitist ill play with almost anyone.
Find me in game if you want and send me a domination/ gaunt invite. If you are good and im not busy ill play with you. Im not an elitist ill play with almost anyone.
Why even bring up trs? this is a very specific thread. If you want to discuss other classes, go to those threads. There are plenty of nerf threads. Have at it. I dont need to hear from biased gwfs as ive said previously. If you want to help the game then do that, but youll find its a long ways away from preserving broken things. Ap should be drained fully on ANY cancellation of ANY daily for ANY class. You lose your daily but you get to stay alive, seems like a great choice. I am not going to continually repeat myself, any class that can be perma immune in pvp is a problem. The end.
@clonkyo1 No way im going to spend like another 2,000 dollars on PC too lol. I have a 50k/d on xbox I think ill just stay here.
@metalldjt SM is just a comfort thing sure you have no ibs but once you get used to using fast runner and like 3/5 in battle fury feats and get used to using almost constant sprint to block cc and prones all the time you might actually like it. Dont go and assume SM is bad just because you dont like it. You might be a great player but dont think you know everything in the game. Iron vanguard has its ups and SM has its own too.
Find me in game if you want and send me a domination/ gaunt invite. If you are good and im not busy ill play with you. Im not an elitist ill play with almost anyone.
No matter if SM or IV, in the end animationcanceling to chain immunity for 3.5 sec is not WAI , same as a TR should not gain immunity by canceling ITC (if that´s what someone else pointed out). I can understand the POV from GWF, having easy going vs a similar abusive build like a MI sab, so broken beats broken in the end. PVP is wild-west and broken in 1000 facettes. Have fun with that "spinner-build"
I said it in an earlier post that the fix would be to make any cancellation exhaust 100% of the ap. That way it applies to every class, including my own. Some of us want pvp and the game in general to be fun again enough that we can put our class bias aside. Others... well youve read the posts up until now. Its funny whenever I come to the forums and read pcs comments. You guys are no better than us on console. If the forums were still separated by system, this would fall in xbox and wouldnt need your 2c. I am telling you of a "bug", someones agreeing that its used (by him), and thats still not enough because to you guys because its not a "smart" build. LOL! I actually respect the guys using it now, for stepping away from your cookie cutter builds. Get off your high horses already.
Interesting how this is getting no attention in the "bug" section. But gwfs from far and wide have come to the pvp section to discuss Tr's on a post that has nothing to do with Tr's. And preach the IV gang over the SM clan. I agree daily cancellation should result in full loss of AP regardless of class. Or maybe give the class feature a 60sec cool down I assume that would cause an uproar w gwfs larger then when kobe hits them for 200k every time they go to 2 on initial push. You guys gripe as well as you run, cya at the track meet.
So... Before anyone says something, I play on Xbox and I'm pretty sure PC guys know better than any console player, because they've had the game for way more time and have more tools to test all of their stuff in a more reliable way, just saying....
I agree their methods of research far surpasses ours on console. However, our applications of said results differ. Xbox doesnt have many things that pc does. Same will be true of Ps4. How players adapt to these changes is what truly makes the experience unique, as we've seen with this very thread. Having the game for alot longer does make you have more knowledge if the game werent constantly evolving. Metas change. The additions of mounts, insignias, elemental weapons, certain artifacts, etc. have lead to combinations that werent even thought of. Which leads us to posts like these and the bugs section. Like i said i value all input from pc, but that is not grounds to belittle us. TLDR: Xbox be smart and stuff too.
How can it be a troll? there is a gwf that uses it and he posted pictures as proof lol does it matter what item level anyone is? should the game not cater to everyone? if youre referring to me, im over 3.9k so yeah. remove it huh? cause you speak for the entire gwf community? youre on pc, give us some statistical data on how many use it or are we going by you inspecting people randomly? pretty small sample size imo lol can a sm gwf shut this guy up? record it and use the bug, ty.
IV gang, like above me said the person he mentions is 4K SM uses the OP's original posts ability & class feat at all times. The SM post lulz about 5 people hitting immune, dunks immune and that it takes 1/4 or less of ap and we know gwfs ap gain is as obscene as this bug/exploit. I still SMH that this gets no attention in bug section but massive attention and disbelief and poor reasoning as to why it's ok from all you gwfs. This has become laughable at best, God bless the great weapon fighter down with the rouge.
Swordmaster GWFs are not viable at all on PC server in high end PvP. Not sure what's different on Xbox/PS4 ... maybe people there don't know how to stalemate a GWF. Or those k/d ratios are achieved by slaying pugs mostly.
So you run SW destroyer to exclusively slay pugs all that time, shame on you
Canceling a daily should consume all ap. Glad we came to this solution. Devs you heard it.
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There is a reason you dont see top tier PC GWFs running this build, I can honestly say I have tested this build in mod 7 with endless rotation of 6 sec dmg immunity and unstoppable, but at the end you will fins this GWF useless in top tier premade pvp, simple reason is, it does not have burst to take down top tier players nor the mobility to help the team cap. There are only two slots for class features and one has to be Destroyer feature as it grants 35~40% dmg when stacked, another being wrarhful determination for more dmg but less mobility or Bravery for more mobility but less damage, unfortunately there are only two slots for class features. As the main purpose of SM build is to output more damage with debuff and marks, wrathful determinatiom becomes a must otherwise you are left with a less mobile GWF that also cant deal more dmg and that defeats the whole purpose of a SM GWF.
The Dark Knight on PC used to run this dmg immunity build and has proven to be able to survive really well, however the lack in burst damage makes him pretty useless in a team, and people would rather bring a DC or OP or TR or GF rather than a GWF that doesnt have burst nor mobility, this is the main reason why you dont see any top tier GWFs running this build and also why top tier players dont really consider this build a problem.
I hear what you guys are saying but ive seen it in action, its effective. the easy thing to do would be to say everyone who battled against the gwf was inexperienced, but the truth is that gwf was very skilled. it could probably only be that effective at bis level.
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+1 YUP =D
No way im going to spend like another 2,000 dollars on PC too lol. I have a 50k/d on xbox I think ill just stay here.
@metalldjt
SM is just a comfort thing sure you have no ibs but once you get used to using fast runner and like 3/5 in battle fury feats and get used to using almost constant sprint to block cc and prones all the time you might actually like it. Dont go and assume SM is bad just because you dont like it. You might be a great player but dont think you know everything in the game. Iron vanguard has its ups and SM has its own too.
I can understand the POV from GWF, having easy going vs a similar abusive build like a MI sab, so broken beats broken in the end.
PVP is wild-west and broken in 1000 facettes. Have fun with that "spinner-build"
The Dark Knight on PC used to run this dmg immunity build and has proven to be able to survive really well, however the lack in burst damage makes him pretty useless in a team, and people would rather bring a DC or OP or TR or GF rather than a GWF that doesnt have burst nor mobility, this is the main reason why you dont see any top tier GWFs running this build and also why top tier players dont really consider this build a problem.
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