Claim Your Glory!

someonedies · August 2016

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terramak said:
Seals of Triumph
The amount of Seals of Triumph awarded for winning a daily domination match has been increased from 1 to 60.
The amount of Seals of Triumph in the cost of items has been adjusted based on therelated changes.
The cap for Seals of Triumph has been increased from 500 seals to 1200.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1218289/storm-kings-thunder-preview-patch-notes-nw-65-20160705a-3/p1

scathias said:
@someonedies, the daily pvp victory now rewards 60 seals of triumph instead of 1. the seals of triumph cap is now 1200. So the costs were updated to reflect this.

someonedies said:
@panderus
Will you guys update the price? (inline with daily PvP Victory reward)

15000 glory per day is beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

End of story.

Think about what you can do with that.

treesclimber said:

emilemo said:

someonedies said:
Enjoy free 15000 glory per day; GG cryptic.
Please elaborate on this
1 win= 60 seals of truiumph, 60*250 chache of glory = 15k glory, 15k of glory = 5 rings = 15k ad.

1. Claim Your "Glory"

2. Feed The Coffer

3. Or Salvage

someonedies said:
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clonkyo1 said:

someonedies said:
@clonkyo1
free "artifact feeders"?

OK, I got it. I completely forgot about alts.
Well, that way ("blood ravenskull" and "Banners" artifacts if you released them) is a bit old and non worthy right now for 2 simple reasons:

- the high amount of ways to obtain RP on the game, alt armies not included. Don't belive me? run [Sharandar, Dread ring daily and weekly missions and run Wheel of dragons' heralds for 6 times per day] with your main and 1 alt ( the alt on WoD is to allow that alt get WoD currencies too. ) .

- The amount of "reagents" (read it as "marks of potency" and "preservation wards" over Epic level) used in the process.

It's correct that using the "old way" it gets like +20 leves (i dont remember the exact amount, sorry) while refining one artifact into another artifact of the same kind when one of them reachs level 60... but, as i said, reaching level 60 on that first artifact, a player needs to spend RP AND reagents... making the process, imho, non worthty.

So, the other options left here (IMO, you can always show me more, ofc) , as yourself stated, is gear "alts"; and mine too: Allow newcomers to access more easely into PvP domination with decent gear and SH coffer payments.
@panderus What about Zen Store?
@clonkyo1 What do you think?

Thanks.

emilemo · August 2016

Good way for top pvp people to make AD, seems legit

aderonz · August 2016

i dont think it will stay that way. They should increase the cost of glory badges to 50 seals, otherwise all ad farmers will turn to PVP and there will be a lot of complains.

kvet · August 2016

The amount of Seals of Triumph in the cost of items has been adjusted based on therelated changes."

Are you saying they MISSED the glory bag price in this update? If that's not what you're saying, then probably should wait to see how it goes on Live before going all Chicken Little on us. If you're saying they DID miss that (at least on Preview) then... well - time to rock some PvP I guess for the next couple days until they fix it in the Thursday patch

rayrdan · August 2016

i really dont get why this thing seems to hurt your feelings so badly
@someonedies

xxmantaraxx · August 2016

There has been a huge need for closing the gap in lvl70 pvp. With no IL teiring at lvl70 so fresh 70 pvpers have been playing for a few days and then quitting for life. Start a character with no VIP and no assistance from your alts or friends, pvp to lvl 70 and see how well you do once you get there. See just how great it is to get oneshotted by everything because lvl 70 pvp is only full of +3.5k IL with full burining gear, trans negation and trans feytouched... see how many seals you get, you might get a lucky win and be able to get one piece of 70 gear in a month.

If this change brings people of all IL to pvp to farm glory for salvage and also gives people the opportunity to close the gear gap between long time players and wallet warriors I am 100% behind it.

someonedies · August 2016

kvet said:
The amount of Seals of Triumph in the cost of items has been adjusted based on therelated changes."

Are you saying they MISSED the glory bag price in this update? If that's not what you're saying, then probably should wait to see how it goes on Live before going all Chicken Little on us. If you're saying they DID miss that (at least on Preview) then... well - time to rock some PvP I guess for the next couple days until they fix it in the Thursday patch

that they are missed.

But I don't think Fix going to happen.

kvet · August 2016

someonedies said:

kvet said:

The amount of Seals of Triumph in the cost of items has been adjusted based on therelated changes."/blockquote>

Are you saying they MISSED the glory bag price in this update? If that's not what you're saying, then probably should wait to see how it goes on Live before going all Chicken Little on us. If you're saying they DID miss that (at least on Preview) then... well - time to rock some PvP I guess for the next couple days until they fix it in the Thursday patch

that they are missed.

But I don't think Fix going to happen.

Interesting. Well, oh well. Go win some PvP and max that glory out while the maxin' is good.

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someonedies · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:
The only reason i can find of about @someonedies ' concerns about this is that him will have a worse time stomping pugs and afraid that newcomers can face him on PvP at all... (basically, i think that he is scared that "new blood" players do a better role than himself on PvP)

I do not PvP.

Thanks for a reply.

someonedies · August 2016

rayrdan said:
i really dont get why this thing seems to hurt your feelings so badly
@someonedies

Sorry for my late reply.

I'm just pissed off; they completely ignore bug reports.

The job's only half done.

rversant · August 2016

Hey now 15k ad a day from PVP, thats pretty nice, maybe queues wont be as dead for a while when the day ticks over.

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emilemo · August 2016

xxmantaraxx said:
There has been a huge need for closing the gap in lvl70 pvp. With no IL teiring at lvl70 so fresh 70 pvpers have been playing for a few days and then quitting for life. Start a character with no VIP and no assistance from your alts or friends, pvp to lvl 70 and see how well you do once you get there. See just how great it is to get oneshotted by everything because lvl 70 pvp is only full of +3.5k IL with full burining gear, trans negation and trans feytouched... see how many seals you get, you might get a lucky win and be able to get one piece of 70 gear in a month.

If this change brings people of all IL to pvp to farm glory for salvage and also gives people the opportunity to close the gear gap between long time players and wallet warriors I am 100% behind it.

Absolutely! But seals being awarded to only 1 char needs to change. All alts who get a (first for the day)win should get seals.

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asterotg · August 2016

First of all, it is clearly a bug. second, it does not matter that much. I stoppef playing PvP bc of Ambush and drains with Stronghold. Bc the glory seemed tempting I qued up yesterday.

I can just say, the gear gap is incredible. My chars have full burning set, most PvP boons, most of the other boons, including SH lvl 20, IL 3k+, t. feytouched vorpal, negation and all the other goodies. Here is how it went.

I qued with my GWF. He got stomped time after time. TRs with SE, HRs with piercing dmg, GFs and a 4.2k IL SW had their fun farming me 2 or 3v1 most of the time even, if one of them could have destroyed me. Full or semipremades against me and mostly other PuGs.

I switched to my TR with slightly better chances for him, but no better results until, by chance, I got grouped with a top PvP CW and he singlehandedly, with a little help from my side, won the match. The end ranking was him, nothing for a long time, me, the other team and our guys.

Btw most 2k PuGs got killed even by my chars in seconds.

As long as there are more premade or semipremade PvP teams, then PuGs, there is no chance, that they 'farm' seals of glory.

thefabricant · August 2016

kitten it, I have never done pvp before, but for those rewards, ill do it. I see lots pf pvp noobs like me incoming.

looomis · August 2016

Please adjust the price . There is no discussion needed that this is not WAY

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asterotg · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:

looomis said:
Please adjust the price . There is no discussion needed that this is not WAY
Why is this "not WAI"?? Mind if you explain it to us in the meantime @someonedies is trying to make his explanations outside "its not wai because i say so and im against it" about this "problem" (notice quotes)?

How about this. Before Mod 10 1 victory gave one badge. Now one victory gives 60 badges. The prices for gear were changed, but not for badges. Now the same feat gives 60 times the glory.

Explanation: They either did become generous or they messed up. What is more likely?

vinceent1 · August 2016

asterotg said:

clonkyo1 said:

looomis said:
Please adjust the price . There is no discussion needed that this is not WAY
Why is this "not WAI"?? Mind if you explain it to us in the meantime @someonedies is trying to make his explanations outside "its not wai because i say so and im against it" about this "problem" (notice quotes)?
How about this. Before Mod 10 1 victory gave one badge. Now one victory gives 60 badges. The prices for gear were changed, but not for badges. Now the same feat gives 60 times the glory.

Explanation: They either did become generous or they messed up. What is more likely?

they become finally more generous, pvp deserve more rewards for years

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opalsuns · August 2016

I want private PvP ques for those of us who premade to be able to play each other.

Give us that, and just make the private que matches with zero rewards.

This will allow pugs to earn their glory in normal ques and hopefully instantly offer some balance to PvP overall.

It will also separate the real PvP players with skill who really want to get paired up with other equally geared people from the trolls who really have no skill and just get off on pug stomping.

I am on Xbox but I wanted to put this out there so there can be one voice from the entire community to express the PWE that we really want and need private ques for PvP.

Oh and some new maps would be nice for domination.

urabask · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:

looomis said:
Please adjust the price . There is no discussion needed that this is not WAY
Why is this "not WAI"?? Mind if you explain it to us in the meantime @someonedies is trying to make his explanations outside "its not wai because i say so and im against it" about this "problem" (notice quotes)?

If they really intended for PvP to suddenly give 25,000 AD for one win then they would've just done it via the reward system they use already. They would've also adjusted prices on the glory store because there's no way they intend for people to get a blood raven skull every two days.

asterotg · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:

asterotg said:

How about this. Before Mod 10 1 victory gave one badge. Now one victory gives 60 badges. The prices for gear were changed, but not for badges. Now the same feat gives 60 times the glory.

Explanation: They either did become generous or they messed up. What is more likely?

I read this as a really weak explanation and allow me to counter it with a LOGIC argument:

- From now on, instead of getting 1 blue salvajeable ring, we get 5 at dungeon's end. You can do whatever you like with those rings but trade them... This is the same thing that we have now on PvP. So, your argument is weak if we apply it on PvE. So, mind if you "elavorate" it further?? would be nice because, from my own PoV, i don't understand all this BIAS from players like yourself, @someonedies (i think that he is still thinking a solid argument outside his "i don't like it, so it's bad for the game" one) and other players when even PvE players like @thefabricant has stated that they will try PvP because rewards, now, are worth (or, at least, this is what i understood from his post). If you see it as a bad thing...

EDIT: i forgot to answer your lat question. From My PoV, they have become "generous"... but i dont get why you did this question at all... so, let me ask you this: What's wrong with them being generous on PvP? Are you jealousy that PvP got some attention at least?? O.oUu

Where is the logic in this argument? Did they raise the rewards in PvE, no. How would this be a reason to give 60x the former reward in PvP? I had 100+ badges I changed to glory before the patch went live, bc logic dictates, that I wont get the same reward/ badge, if I get 60 badges for one win, when I needed 60 wins for 60 badges before.

I did neither demand a fix nor cry exploit, I just stated, that this in not WAI in my opinion. If a dungeon would suddenly reward 60 times the rewards it had before, everyone would say it is a bug. Here you claim, that it is WAI.

BTW, I wrote, that I have full burning set on a few chars, to be exact on 5 chars. How can you claim, that I hate PvP and PvP players? Bc I stopped playing PvP bc of drains and ambush etc? 'He had 5 high geared PvP chars with the best armor a year ago and stopped playing PvP, he has to hate PvP and everyone playing it', yea right...

PS your calculations are wrong. 60 badges at 2x glory is 30k glory, if they did not change that. In two days I earned 65k glory. I could get a few power artifacts or an unity or stability artifact (banners) as feeder artifacts. While you cant sell them, your advance, if you are not done with refining, is 100k+ ADs.

frozenfirevr · August 2016

rgutscheradev said:
Lots of questions -- let me just comment on a few of them quickly!
* Where to get your AD for casual players: Whenever you start up the game, that big welcome screen you get -- hit the "Daily Quests -- Earn Epic Rewards!" button in the lower left. (You can press L to bring back the welcome screen later.) It explains the best ways to get AD. The other good source is Salvage -- I've found the best places for "casual" salvage are the Underdark skirmishes (Throne of Dwarven Gods and Prophecy of Madness) but ymmv.
* Respec tokens for the three reworked classes: sorry, this was us just dropping the ball. The tokens are on the way.
* The whole Badge of Glory thing: yup, we're aware of this. It was not intended, and we'll be fixing it as soon as we can.
* Snow storm and dwarf beards: the art team knows about both of these issues and is taking a look.

So yeah, it's getting adjusted soon...

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urabask · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:

asterotg said:

1 - Where is the logic in this argument? Did they raise the rewards in PvE, no. How would this be a reason to give 60x the former reward in PvP? I had 100+ badges I changed to glory before the patch went live, bc logic dictates, that I wont get the same reward/ badge, if I get 60 badges for one win, when I needed 60 wins for 60 badges before.

2 - I did neither demand a fix nor cry exploit, I just stated, that this in not WAI in my opinion. If a dungeon would suddenly reward 60 times the rewards it had before, everyone would say it is a bug. Here you claim, that it is WAI.

3 - BTW, I wrote, that I have full burning set on a few chars, to be exact on 5 chars. How can you claim, that I hate PvP and PvP players? Bc I stopped playing PvP bc of drains and ambush etc? 'He had 5 high geared PvP chars with the best armor a year ago and stopped playing PvP, he has to hate PvP and everyone playing it', yea right...

4 - PS your calculations are wrong. 60 badges at 2x glory is 30k glory, if they did not change that. In two days I earned 65k glory. I could get a few power artifacts or an unity or stability artifact (banners) as feeder artifacts. While you cant sell them, your advance, if you are not done with refining, is 100k+ ADs.

1 - Sadly, your weak point ignores the fact that it only affects to "seals", not to the "earn glory" itself. So, comparing it with your argument in "2" , the thing would be more accurated if devs rised the AD rewards from PvE dungeons by 60... on which i would agree on some really exceptional cases.

2 - Continuing my point, try to win a match right now, let's see how many fights you need to do before you get a decent team which can allow to have chances to win... and that time spent on 2 matches can be higher than the one used for one elol run...

3 - I have, now, 8 chars using half PvP gear pieces from trade bar store and looking for the way to get the last 2 pieces. No PvP matches fought yet... or will you complain, now, for the gear in trade bar shop? .

4 - Yes, and use them to refine other artifacts or buy rings and get extra AD or buy gear for PvP, etc; and help newcomers to get the gap gear between then and "us" more closer than it is right now... I can't understand why this is a problem at all...

Seems kind of pointless to keep arguing when they're fixing it tomorrow.

asterotg · August 2016

clonkyo1 said:

asterotg said:

1 - Where is the logic in this argument? Did they raise the rewards in PvE, no. How would this be a reason to give 60x the former reward in PvP? I had 100+ badges I changed to glory before the patch went live, bc logic dictates, that I wont get the same reward/ badge, if I get 60 badges for one win, when I needed 60 wins for 60 badges before.

2 - I did neither demand a fix nor cry exploit, I just stated, that this in not WAI in my opinion. If a dungeon would suddenly reward 60 times the rewards it had before, everyone would say it is a bug. Here you claim, that it is WAI.

3 - BTW, I wrote, that I have full burning set on a few chars, to be exact on 5 chars. How can you claim, that I hate PvP and PvP players? Bc I stopped playing PvP bc of drains and ambush etc? 'He had 5 high geared PvP chars with the best armor a year ago and stopped playing PvP, he has to hate PvP and everyone playing it', yea right...

4 - PS your calculations are wrong. 60 badges at 2x glory is 30k glory, if they did not change that. In two days I earned 65k glory. I could get a few power artifacts or an unity or stability artifact (banners) as feeder artifacts. While you cant sell them, your advance, if you are not done with refining, is 100k+ ADs.

1 - Sadly, your weak point ignores the fact that it only affects to "seals", not to the "earn glory" itself. So, comparing it with your argument in "2" , the thing would be more accurated if devs rised the AD rewards from PvE dungeons by 60... on which i would agree on some really exceptional cases.

2 - Continuing my point, try to win a match right now, let's see how many fights you need to do before you get a decent team which can allow to have chances to win... and that time spent on 2 matches can be higher than the one used for one elol run...

3 - I have, now, 8 chars using half PvP gear pieces from trade bar store and looking for the way to get the last 2 pieces. No PvP matches fought yet... or will you complain, now, for the gear in trade bar shop? .

4 - Yes, and use them to refine other artifacts or buy rings and get extra AD or buy gear for PvP, etc; and help newcomers to get the gap gear between then and "us" more closer than it is right now... I can't understand why this is a problem at all...

Patch notes:

Badge of Glory now properly requires 60 Seals of Triumph, increased from 1.

'Drops the mike.'

kvet · August 2016

"The whole Badge of Glory thing: yup, we're aware of this. It was not intended, and we'll be fixing it as soon as we can."

Seems the mic's been dropped on this threat.

vinceent1 · August 2016

i wish all pvp is fixed that fast @cryptic

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