This is just me ranting about something that really annoys me in the game, and i know it annoys other people as well.
Idiots undercutting prices on the AH.
Firstly, IT IS NOT NECESSARY. there is literally no need whatsoever to undercut prices.
Secondly, it ruins things for everyone else. you make other people have to either wait forever or remove their lot and repost, costing them AD if they are below rank 8 VIP. Third, it ruins the economy on certain items. Heroes used to go for 250k, they're now below 90k.
When you see someone put an item up, charge the exact same as them, that way whoever is buying chooses between you two.
It annoys me so damn much
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Call me a plain old jerk but I'll continue undercutting you just coz its fun. Period.
Dead🔪If undercutting was really that big of a factor in market prices, NO item would EVER have its price increase without serious market manipulation.
So, with this hyperbole set aside. I'm curious, short of price fixing, how EXACTLY would you propose to stop undercutting?
I don't have a problem with undercutting in general.
i take issue when i go to list something and some moron has undercut the listing before it by something stupid like 30k. wtf for?? to sell quicker? 2k prolly would have done the trick and you just diddled yourself out of ad... ijit. on principal, i will list close to the one above that and let that moron get ripped off. i am happy to wait for my AD.
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Before I got VIP, I would undercut by 5% to minimize being undercut. Now I can undercut by less. Yep. I won't buy from these people. I'll buy from the next one with a slightly worst price.
Being undercut doesn't bother me. It didn't bother me before VIP either. It's just the reality of the market. It's a risk of doing business, simple as that.
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Price fixing isn't good for a real economy, don't see why it would be good for a virtual one.
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So cute, so sheltered away from the real world.
"Undercutting" makes the whole economy work.
I'm selling because I'm "undercutting". You're listing and watching because you think your item is worth a certain amount.
Your item is worth only what someone is willing to pay. If I list for as little as 1 AD less, 99% chance mine is sold...yours is collecting dust.
Capitalism...stop imagining customers owe you what your item is "worth" and sell it for what they are willing to pay. Works every time.
It always amazes me how upset people get over other people undercutting them on the Auction House in nearly every game I have played so far. Why do you think people need to put things on the AH for the price you think is reasonable instead of the price they are willing to accept for their item?
I got an Imperial Rage Drake to drop from the Summer Festival, if I followed your advice my drake would still be on the AH, instead I did undercut the other listings, and others undercut me as well. I didn't keep taking down and putting up my listing, but by the time the event ended my drake and some others that were lower in price sold. Some of the other higher prices ones were still there. Undercutting is just the nature of things on auction houses... heck in real life too for that matter. You think competitors in real life stores don't undercut each other as well?
Same thing with superior marks of potency, I'm not going to support another player and buy one for 75,000 AD if I can just buy one straight off the wondrous bazaar for the same price and support the economy instead.
Most of the time I don't need the item anyways, so if it is cut down to 1 ad I don't mind.
That's +1 ad for me
deal with it.
why expected to get alot of ADs? sound like you are too greedy for more.
Dead🔪That being said, generally, when I undercut, I see what the going rate is for. If only a couple of people are undercutting by significant amounts, I'll actually post somewhere inbetween their prices and the original prices. Chances are their stuff goes fast and then mine's the next lowest when people do a search.
On a similar note, it is disheartening when say the starry panthers event is up and you go to purchase one because their prices have finally dropped significantly and then someone with more AD than the rest of us buys all the undercuts and relists them for 200k again If you really want to control the market prices, being able to buy and relist all the people who undercut you is the only way you're going to do that. But I dislike people who do that and I wouldn't buy from you at that point out of principle
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That's the sensible answer. Here's a bit of snark.
I will always undercut. If I'm not moving the stacks of R5's and surplus refining I pick up from 2xE nchant events, they mean nothing to me. My balance sheets are way over in the black, and I intend to keep them that way.
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