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Guild Size? or what makes a good guild? aka Guild Building 101
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What would consider a reasonable guild size? How many people is too many? I know a lot of people have heard "the more the merrier" but not in this case. So what do you consider manageable? Thanks:) I wanted to update this just a bit. Another this I wanted to ask what are you're turn's on's and turnoff's, that you will allow in a guild?
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Ravenskya - TR / Krisha Chaos - OP / Waffles - GF / Dex Domitor - HR
Becky the trendy GWF - GWF / Too Toasty - SW / Falcor - DC / Morrigan - CW / Sir Didymus - OP
To the OP, you kinda answered your own question by saying how difficult it is to get all your members together to run something. At max membership you'll have more than enough people online at peak times. The trick with management is to avoid management. Just remove inactives and a-holes and the rest usually takes care of itself. People don't want to be managed, they just want an active group of people they can call on when they want to do dungeons etc.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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I'm sure it will settle as the initial population rush dies off.
As for "management" it really depends if you are happy to let people do their own thing with occasional contributions to the guild or you want a bunch of serfs to order around.
Looks like OP is looking for the latter. Good luck with that, most people aren't much interested in being told what to do with their game time, especially when it's a new game and many haven't even hit max level yet.
Over the weekend as each of them logged on one of us would ask "Hey whatcha doin?" and the answer was "I'm picking up the Guild missions so I can do them while I'm running my missions, what's everyone else up to?" then we answer "A and B are in PVP, C and D are running heroic encounters in the stronghold, E is Lv 25 in Neverdeath, F and G are Dragon Hunting, H made a new character and is killing Orcs, I and J are on their 70's working on Icewindale"
Then again - maybe we are missing the point of a guild
Ravenskya - TR / Krisha Chaos - OP / Waffles - GF / Dex Domitor - HR
Becky the trendy GWF - GWF / Too Toasty - SW / Falcor - DC / Morrigan - CW / Sir Didymus - OP
I knew no-one before starting this game. I joined a guild that seemed suitable, mostly Australian with some US members which suits my time frames perfectly. As a general rule we do our stronghold dailies for nice XP, and donate the marks to the Mimic. Higher levels who still need any of their 2 daily dungeons for AD will generally hop in and run with a lower who's doing their daily stronghold quest dungeon to make it easy, have fun and hang out. 60+ loot from that can go into the Mimic too. We'll almost always have a playstation chat going, so can hop in, just hang out but also ask/answer questions and get help if needed. To this point I don't think I've heard/seen a single person get told what to do (other than the request to pop marks in the mimic, but they have no point other than that anyway). The closest I've seen was when I was personally "strongly advised" to grab free level 7+ companion enchants out of guild bank to help my stats.
There are different types of guilds, people just need to find what suits them. Some people like strict "Do X and we'll achieve Y and everyone will be uber!" guilds, some like "Family and friends hanging out together" guilds. I tend to like "Do what you can to help each other and we'll get there eventually" guilds. There's clearly some who like "look at how many members we have, and we powerlevel!" guilds.
My advice would be, the more demanding you want to be as a guild leader, the more you need to bring to the table. People don't like being told what to do in their leisure time unless there's adequate reward in exchange.
Exactly.
I do three areas for dailies, run 2 skirmishes, 2 dungeons and than do guild dailies. Takes me about 2-3 hours to get through all,of that.
Guild will take some time to build up with all the various structured and cost of building them.
As for how many is enough? That's what you have officers for. A small guild probably can get away with just the guildmaster running it...but as the guild grows in size you're going to definitely need a hand unless your idea of a day in NW is sitting in PE shouting ad nauseam for new recruits. Doesn't mean you have to hand your officers the keys to everything but yeah, someone else to handle invite requests, recruiting, and the like is definitely a must as your guild grows in size. The max number of unique accounts, by the way, is 150--so you can have more members than accounts, and that will mean a LOT of alts.
Claims of "powerleveling" ...I find those to be dubious at best and more of a way to attract new blood. There really isn't a true way to "powerlevel" in this game unless you're using high rank azures in your utility slots and those don't require a guild to use. Rank 7 (which can be easily obtained through trade bars from opening lockboxes and right now the AD > ZEN rate is a buyers' market) is more than a sufficient boost to EXP gained. You need a pretty high level stronghold to get the max EXP boost from boons and I highly doubt that two weeks into the full launch of the game anyone has a guild that high-leveled.
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People shouldn't even be geared enough to be that narrow minded already.
Power leveling it is not dubious, it is very easy and very possible in a guild setting. The amount of XP given by level 70 mobs was recently increased. The small HE's in the Stronghold give very high XP to low levels. At level 20, it is possible in a group to gain about 10-12 levels running just the small HE's with Lake Supply and Dock supply being the best in less than an hour. I've seen lower than 20 characters gain 3 levels on one HE. Of course, progression does slow as levels increase the closer one gets to 60. Best results with a full party of 5. One or two 70's with 3 low levels works well.
our guild is currently at about 130 ( we were full but purged the non players and non contributors) we ask for influence but nothing else because it's the one thing that people have to do to build the guild. As Armandeaux said the boons in a guild make the game way better and it's one of the big reasons to be part of building a guild. the other reason is to have people to run things with. pugs are kind of terribad. It's also a good way to make friends.
as far as organizing things it's not that hard. just say hay who wants to do stuff now. and boom. thing planned. We did our first dragon run today. we are undergeared still but enthusiastic. I think there was enough for two dragons but we were also under organised on it (it was our first attempt and who knew so many people would show up) but it was a fun kind of cacophony and people got a taste for what the dragons are like. And the dragons give good rewards for levelling up stronghold and giving dragonflight gear later when you get market 4.
powerlevelling is real, as zephyriah said. (not gonna quote it's just true) just about everyone who doesnt' want to run all the content has done it. the easiest 5 mans don't give much xp but one encounter as a low level along the lines of lake is just level after level. I went from level 5 to level 20 in a five heroic run that was mixed with the beast, spiders type heroic and lake type heroic.
the problem with these little guilds is without the sheer numbers giving to the coffer you're never going to build your stronghold. you're never going to get your boons. and those boons are tasty.