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poopoomcmuffnspoopoomcmuffns Member Posts: 729 Arc User
Were toast, well more like all of the exploit lovers are toast. TT becomes a single target with splash damage, gf itf and wol interaction gets a massive nerf, so no more bugged kf/mf. We get our speed cut in more than half but a slight boost to deflect and lifesteal..i believe im the only warlock currently with a decent amount of deflect at 30 percent. Puppet is the tankier, and no mention of its dps yet, so that may be the last viable dps path even tho its bugged..haha..not that i really care, i was not using any of these bugs to begin with. The only thing that really has me a littled p-off is the tt changes, but nothing final as of right now.
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  • asjohnson#4476 asjohnson Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    good, SW needs a massive nerf. Hooray
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  • asjohnson#4476 asjohnson Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    My main was a TR, and we get nerfed to the ground 1st. So I think every DPS class needs a nerf, especially one as OP as the SW that can 1-shot any and every boss.
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  • asjohnson#4476 asjohnson Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    Even w/o using bugs any SW of equal stats/gear will out DPS any TR. Just like every other DPS class, and its pathetic. The TR is not viable to use at all anymore. I hate that people are crying about the SW/GWF/GF/DC/Pally getting nerfed, but no one thinks about the extreme nerf the TR had gotten and completely ruined the class.
  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    @asjohnson#4476 if seen some well built executioner TR's put out some extremely good DPS - they are absolute killers.

    The thing is of course, the SW and TR have the same armor class but the SW doesn't have stealth, aoe stun or piercing damage. That means the TR is a controller/DPS whereas the SW is just pure DPS. Yes we all know that a couple of SW skills when buffed can be insane - but then again, a TR buffed/bonded to 50k+ power getting a double SE dunk with SoD will also do extreme damage.

    I do believe there's a video on here of a TR with 4 buffers dropping Loastmauth in about 10 seconds?

    Anyway asjohnson, can I ask what feat tree you've gone with and what your IL is? It's a relevant question seeing as you started the topic without providing any comparative information.
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  • asjohnson#4476 asjohnson Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    @zardon70 PvP is the last thing I think about. 80% of the playerbase doesn't even bother with PvP. So No, I have not been in PvP lately. All that matters is PvE.
  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    LOL nerf everything because they nerfed your TR, QQ?

    There are TR's out there putting out massive dmg. A 3.8K one in my guild always top pain giver.
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
  • asjohnson#4476 asjohnson Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    pr3stigex said:

    LOL nerf everything because they nerfed your TR, QQ?

    There are TR's out there putting out massive dmg. A 3.8K one in my guild always top pain giver.

    No, not because they nerfed the TR. Because by nerfing the TR, they made it virtually useless and every other DPS class destroys DPS. They need to even it out.
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Here the thing about this nerf HAMSTER going on... Ill say this if you build your class right you'll have no issue keeping up in dps... As said above TR's can keep up in Dmg. CW can definetly keep up in dmg. HR's are decent dmg dealers, but shouldn't be too high since rooting, GWF, good if you know how to play it just like any other class... I farm everyday for about 4-6 hours of 3min shores/ kessell's to reset chests and do other things in NW between that farming, Ive played with so many people all different IL's currently no dps should be altered except sw's with fix/buff, they should still be the pretty much same dmg as gwf's if not stronger, BUT with a major cost in time between power use so it's not the wises choice to go with those powers, and not insane to make people shy away from other classes. :T If anything they should just buff the paths less traveled by, by players.
    Im sure someone agree's with me... Hell the Devs might if they decide to read this... :(
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    @zardon70 PvP is the last thing I think about. 80% of the playerbase doesn't even bother with PvP. So No, I have not been in PvP lately. All that matters is PvE.

    Yes, atm pvp is well "Void", it's still there, its part of the game. You may not talk about it,but it still matters to some, even myself as a source of free feeders. <3 ^-^
  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    My TR does plenty of damage, I can't keep up with GWF but have yet to be out damaged by a SW that is not using puppet.
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    edited July 2016

    My TR does plenty of damage, I can't keep up with GWF but have yet to be out damaged by a SW that is not using puppet.

    Proving my point, the class is doing what its supposed to, dmg/control its not like it's main focus is dmg. : P
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    I just can't wait until all of the 2-3k SWs have to gear up and learn to play to be able to compete. Right now 3k is BIS for warlocks on PC. lol

    May I ask how's their dmg? Wouldn't you agree their base dmg should be better with the cost of being weak defensive wise n' fairly long cooldowns? :T
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    2.6k undergeared SW damage is the same as a 3.8k CW.

    Well is it a "good" CW? lol cx
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    edited July 2016

    2.6k undergeared SW damage is the same as a 3.8k CW.

    Well is it a "good" CW? lol cx
    It does not matter. The SW can be wearing green gear and an augment and still compete.
    Eh so more Bs? : P (didn't mean that toward your comment, meant toward sw dmg. ^-^ )
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    Now if they just address the amount of self healing going on, i could go back to being a useful temp lock in party situations, instead of just respeccing to have a little fun with low geared pugs.

    Assuming your talkng about another path/paragon, personally don't know an insane amount of things about warlocks, just the basic way that type of class should work. : P Which if so yeah they should buff the non-so-used ones. Btw might be helpful toward Devs if you state the power/path/feat that needs to be edited an how it should be buffed/debuffed.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    Now, with 2 Paladins in the party instead of GF and DC, the SW is much weaker at that IL. It is DC and GF that are broken most of all.

    Intresting. hmm... idk what to think of that tbh.
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    @ltsmithneko i would of totally already made a post to devs detailing temptation path desired changes, but im limited to my iphone, pc players have already covered the topic in depth as well.

    Im limited to Microsoft Edge on the Xbox. cx
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