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  • wurmschwanzwurmschwanz Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 35 Arc User
    No one needed the bubble!
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  • mrroofer#2455 mrroofer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    Exactly I mean who wouldn't want to spend 2 hours in one dungeon heck get rid of the bubble all together it's funny people think it's "fun" to spend 2 hours in one dungeon
  • mrroofer#2455 mrroofer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    Probably won't be playing much anymore don't have time to sit in a dungeon for 2 hours b c people complain about the bubble and the one shot after one shot death is really getting old
  • zman81420zman81420 Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    Sitting here with his shiny Guardian Fighter wondering what all the ruckus is about and falls back asleep.
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  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    The two hour dungeons talk is good for entertainment *eats popcorn* :3 Ya know there's a little thing called PE that makes dungeons easier if your having trouble for some reason.
  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    I prefer GF anyway, the buffs are far better and I dont usually die a lot anyway. Maybe people should stick to content for their item level and join a guild of similar items levels. Problem is low IL people want to run the higher level content.
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
  • interlagos335iinterlagos335i Member Posts: 11 Arc User
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    Exactly I ran a pug last night in cn and everyone but me was 2200il and they couldn't kill the first boss...it's sad.
  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    zman81420 said:

    Sitting here with his shiny Guardian Fighter wondering what all the ruckus is about and falls back asleep.

    me too.. and I felt extra smart when I saw it was also getting a pretty decent buff at the same time the others got nerfed.

  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    pr3stigex said:

    I prefer GF anyway, the buffs are far better and I dont usually die a lot anyway. Maybe people should stick to content for their item level and join a guild of similar items levels. Problem is low IL people want to run the higher level content.

    the dungeons by right should be completable by a low il person. the game allows them in at a point that it thinks should be doable. often isn't but with the 2 or 6 hours dedicated to the dungeon... LOL. there should be a dynamic system in place IMO. something that scales up the difficulty if the aggregate IL is over a certain number and lowered if under a certain number.
  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User

    pr3stigex said:

    I prefer GF anyway, the buffs are far better and I dont usually die a lot anyway. Maybe people should stick to content for their item level and join a guild of similar items levels. Problem is low IL people want to run the higher level content.

    the dungeons by right should be completable by a low il person. the game allows them in at a point that it thinks should be doable. often isn't but with the 2 or 6 hours dedicated to the dungeon... LOL. there should be a dynamic system in place IMO. something that scales up the difficulty if the aggregate IL is over a certain number and lowered if under a certain number.
    Honestly that is the worst idea possible, IMHO. I hate scaling. Like destiny where you could be BiS and still get killed by a level 1. If I work to become OP i want to be OP.
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
  • zman81420zman81420 Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    Yeah when everyone said I was stupid not to roll a pally. Boy am I missing out lol. Paladins are fine a geared one can nearely perma bubble still by themselves. Problem is how lazy people got they know nothing else but hack and Slash. I'm very glad I kept my main and continued to beast her up!
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  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    pr3stigex said:

    pr3stigex said:

    I prefer GF anyway, the buffs are far better and I dont usually die a lot anyway. Maybe people should stick to content for their item level and join a guild of similar items levels. Problem is low IL people want to run the higher level content.

    the dungeons by right should be completable by a low il person. the game allows them in at a point that it thinks should be doable. often isn't but with the 2 or 6 hours dedicated to the dungeon... LOL. there should be a dynamic system in place IMO. something that scales up the difficulty if the aggregate IL is over a certain number and lowered if under a certain number.
    Honestly that is the worst idea possible, IMHO. I hate scaling. Like destiny where you could be BiS and still get killed by a level 1. If I work to become OP i want to be OP.

    Scale down for the lower levels is more what I meant. I didn't mean make it harder than it is already for the higher IL. I just meant if it's a group of low ils the damage should be scaled downwards for them.
  • draco16#8040 draco16 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    The bubble nerf has been on its way for a period of time. In our guild we tried to run the low level members through as many dragons and instances as possible in anticipation of the nerf. Unfortunately future low gear score members won't receive the same chance. For the folks that have their equipment they will be fine. The pvpers will be happy up until they focus on another class that they want nerfed but the ones that will be hurt will be new characters since the chances to survive dragons or dungeon bosses will be slim. This will lead to them being turned of by the game and moving on to other gaming opportunities. Congrats to arc on a great decision!!!
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  • cscriv79cscriv79 Member Posts: 398 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    The main problem with dungeons and low IL is that ppl think "oh I am just short of the IL to do CN, I will slot some dragon hoards and boom now i can kick HAMSTER in CN"

    people take the wrong combination of items for the IL to do the dungeon.

    Yes the highest toughest dungeon should take an hour to complete, not less than 15 mins.

    Perhaps they should do a throwback day and all the bubble reliant ppl should go run the old mod 5 CN or spell plague where a bubble was not available.

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  • lithevalkerianlithevalkerian Member Posts: 97 Arc User

    I was hoping to get the castle never achievement done for killing the boss 25 times before the change , not happening since I haven't beat it yet. Maybe if these dungeons were not so difficult with one hit deaths every one wouldn't have needed permanent bubbles. Maybe that will change in the future.

    But you don't need a bubble for it at all actually. If you watch his tells and pay attention to what abilities he is about to use and stay out of the red area's, you can run it no bubble. My guild has done this with a few different combinations of people.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    I gf works much better in CN, even when they run mod 5 gear still works better than a pally before and after nerf. :3
  • satniteeduardosatniteeduardo Member Posts: 136 Arc User

    I gf works much better in CN, even when they run mod 5 gear still works better than a pally before and after nerf. :3

    I don't agree. Before the nerf my Pally was in quite high demand. Whilst I know its doable with a GF and easily if the team knows what they are doing the easiest runs I have had was with my Pally. I have not run it on any class after the nerfs. My GF will temporarily become my main until I work out what to do with my Pally.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    I gf works much better in CN, even when they run mod 5 gear still works better than a pally before and after nerf. :3

    I don't agree. Before the nerf my Pally was in quite high demand. Whilst I know its doable with a GF and easily if the team knows what they are doing the easiest runs I have had was with my Pally. I have not run it on any class after the nerfs. My GF will temporarily become my main until I work out what to do with my Pally.
    Well a gf makes the runs about 70% shorter than with a pally. :p
  • zelinktheone3zelinktheone3 Member Posts: 43 Arc User


    I don't agree. Before the nerf my Pally was in quite high demand. Whilst I know its doable with a GF and easily if the team knows what they are doing the easiest runs I have had was with my Pally. I have not run it on any class after the nerfs. My GF will temporarily become my main until I work out what to do with my Pally.

    What does a Pally being in high demand have to do with what is actually better? Most people that want Pallies to run with don't take the time to actually learn the game or find a GF to play with. GFs were always the best choice for PvE.


    And for those complaining about anything taking 'too much time', don't play a mmo. They are built around taking time, especially their end game content.

  • satniteeduardosatniteeduardo Member Posts: 136 Arc User


    I don't agree. Before the nerf my Pally was in quite high demand. Whilst I know its doable with a GF and easily if the team knows what they are doing the easiest runs I have had was with my Pally. I have not run it on any class after the nerfs. My GF will temporarily become my main until I work out what to do with my Pally.

    What does a Pally being in high demand have to do with what is actually better? Most people that want Pallies to run with don't take the time to actually learn the game or find a GF to play with. GFs were always the best choice for PvE.


    And for those complaining about anything taking 'too much time', don't play a mmo. They are built around taking time, especially their end game content.

    All depends what people want I guess.

    Even in my guild there are some that prefer GF and some that preferred the bubble. Now they have no choice.

    I have tried to pug CN a couple of times now (not on my Pally) and I am astounded at people not understanding what red marks on the ground mean. hopefully now they will learn lol
  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    Well to be fair in the orcus fight, you either have someone that can face tank orcus and the melee classes can dps, or you ranged DPS. his 1 hit swings don't give enough time to move from.
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
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