For people who have completed or even just attempted. Was the time/challenge vs reward satisfactory?
Ill maybe log in tomorrow.... maybe...
LOSTmauth boss is more challenging. ANY second you can go down no matter if you are bis or not. he will use laserbeam. he will kill you if you stand to his tail. he will roar and you will have hard time avoid red spawned areas. he will scratch everyone facing.STONes fall from the sky. enviroment change floor turn red. BY FAR lostmauth boss is the best boss atm in neverwinter. IN OTHER hand we have the lazy orcus attacking hard meelee only players and the only hard part here is the green spheres. Companions: a tank can too summon any companion and it will hit one time him one the gf or op( if they attempt to aggro)
SUMMARY: poor mechanics boss, rewards the best than all dungeons atm.
I can only speak for myself, but i have to disagree with people, who like this "new" CN. Why? Cause i think class balancing should have been done for ages. Creating dungeons which favor just one type of class, ranged in this case, is an utterly bad design and a cheap way to avoid the costs of Dev work.
What will be the next stage? Maybe we will see SP coming back in a way, which favors only melee. Would be the same garbage in my eyes.
Other than this it is a foreseeable Management trick, called "crop rotation" here. It forces one to buy new character slots (does the bell ring?!), make new toon(s), which can do or can do the current content more easily and with next Mod make a turn again. No biggie, all of us, who were in a school for economics know these cheap tricks.
Sadly all too many gaming companies do it and then people and journalist search for the golden egg, why MMOs are in a decline period these days and they can do it, why not, most people can't see the wood from the tree, they are blinded by small gifts, goodies or only care for themselves. One example, before this Mod all cried about the Paladins causing lag and the boring nature of the bubble, now watch, 99% will keep shut, cause hey bubble makes things easy.
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My GF can tank Orcus all day long. Tide of Iron, block with shield. Be ready to move when the green spheres come out (if Orcus lasts that long), done.
For added party benefit: Steel Defense, wait for his attack animation, pop Fighter's Recovery (just in case, but you do this for the immunity), pop ITF, back to blocking with Tide of Iron.
The only time my GF falls is during a lag spike (which only happened twice on around 8 runs). My GF is 3.2K but a guildie did the same thing with 2.5K.
i do not know GF that good, but I saw GF´s tanking that boss very good, and I also saw.... an OP dancing at 40 feet arround that boss crying the boss will kill him without "Bubble" and demanding to get refilled his AP to go permabubbble, since he had zero AP gain, no DC sigil and no clue how to gain AP infight..... it´s a wide spread from "scrub to top"
I think most player just forgot how to tank...or never did tanking like it should be what encounter and class feats does a GF use?
1) Doesn't matter if you have a companion or not, his AoE wide blast attack hits for a percentage of your life, which means it will never kill you, even with no gear on.
2) The only attack he has that cannot be dodged by ranged characters is the AoE blast attack, the green balls can be dodged but I will be the first to admit its rather hard. Guess what though, he hardly ever spawns them so you fine.
3) Orcus never moves, which means his melee attacks are meaningless to ranged characters.
4) As we have established that the only ability he can reliably hit you with cannot ever kill you by itself, CN is really easy so long as you sensibly don't get in melee range."
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Sounds like a gripping, nail biting fight... 0.o?
"We have slain Orcus, Demon Prince of the Undead!"
"Wow, that's incredible! How ever did you accomplish such a feat?"
I run with 3k+ group today.Group was 2 GWF,1CW,1DC and me GF .All of them were strangers to me .Fight wasnt impossible but it was hard.Harder than when it was with HR or bubbladin 1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt. 2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should. 3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
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kacsaneverMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 167Arc User
Maybe its time to respect to Swords Master, I'll miss threatening rush tho
You need to be way better w/ block-skill timing if you were IV but not impossible. Sad thing you can not use IW b/c of its long casting animation and you don't have the immunity frame of SD so you must manage your Guard Meter w/ Shield Bash + ToI and ITC in between you block again on time. You can also use Shield Talent if you had difficulties to keep up your GM. It is not impossible as IV but way more challenging compared to SM.
Wasn't there a DeathKnight video in another popular MMO game doing the final instance solo not a long while ago - just shows that people investing enough of their time in the game can do better than casuals doing 1h/day and sitting at 2.3k ilvl I like the new instance, just not that the final guy sometimes permashields
Please fix Zhentarim Warlock companion's skill "Arcane Warping" to the originally intended "Arcane Boost" zhentarim-warlock-companion
Wasn't there a DeathKnight video in another popular MMO game doing the final instance solo not a long while ago - just shows that people investing enough of their time in the game can do better than casuals doing 1h/day and sitting at 2.3k ilvl I like the new instance, just not that the final guy sometimes permashields
The Deathknight was clearing current raid content solo...but they were always OP.
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I run with 3k+ group today.Group was 2 GWF,1CW,1DC and me GF .All of them were strangers to me .Fight wasnt impossible but it was hard.Harder than when it was with HR or bubbladin 1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt. 2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should. 3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
I run with 3k+ group today.Group was 2 GWF,1CW,1DC and me GF .All of them were strangers to me .Fight wasnt impossible but it was hard.Harder than when it was with HR or bubbladin 1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt. 2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should. 3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
That sounds exactly demanding content I faced, but when do Troll Premade its really easy, but random/open queue is challenge what others here are demanding... they just cant take challenge.
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lirithielMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,482Arc User
I run with 3k+ group today.Group was 2 GWF,1CW,1DC and me GF .All of them were strangers to me .Fight wasnt impossible but it was hard.Harder than when it was with HR or bubbladin 1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt. 2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should. 3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
I run with 3k+ group today.Group was 2 GWF,1CW,1DC and me GF .All of them were strangers to me .Fight wasnt impossible but it was hard.Harder than when it was with HR or bubbladin 1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt. 2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should. 3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
That sounds exactly demanding content I faced, but when do Troll Premade its really easy, but random/open queue is challenge what others here are demanding... they just cant take challenge.
Challenge? Like banging your head against the same wall 100 times? No thank you, keep your public queue.
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revan06100Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 205Arc User
You guys are nuts... Tried twice with (op-gf-sw-tr and myselef gwf) no bonding, we failed horribly, though op is 3.2IL and i'm 3.8IL, rest are 2.5/2.7k. We failed, with no dc and no build perma bubble, Orcus hits at 700k, nothing you can do... Second time with (dc-gf-cw-hr and myself) failed again. gf with 3.4IL 19k def. Got os everytime we got in. So explain me how is that easy?
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lirithielMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,482Arc User
Did it last night with GF, dps DC, GWF, CW and me (HR). No healer and we cleared it - oh and DC and CW took Orcus from 60% -> dead by themselves
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thefabricantMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 5,248Arc User
You guys are nuts... Tried twice with (op-gf-sw-tr and myselef gwf) no bonding, we failed horribly, though op is 3.2IL and i'm 3.8IL, rest are 2.5/2.7k. We failed, with no dc and no build perma bubble, Orcus hits at 700k, nothing you can do... Second time with (dc-gf-cw-hr and myself) failed again. gf with 3.4IL 19k def. Got os everytime we got in. So explain me how is that easy?
I dont understand something here, u cant enter with 2 tanks, so OP was devotion, So... how could u fail? 3.2k OP should outheal anything, assuming GF is doing his job correctly, i have 130k hp and im capped at 80% DR, and there is nothing than can onehoot me (beside balls), tho me taking dmg + some1 else taking dmg may be deadly. U traded Bubble/debuffs for crazy heal, and it should work as good as any of those.
Problem with gwf is, they r now one of most vulnerable classes, especially in fight like one with Orcus. U should minimize ur threat, so no DS and always make sure u r behind Orcus (on side will be prolly better tho).
Now about last question, i will gladly explain how i see it. First of all i prefer to have debuff dc in party (HP set, haste, righteous) Second of all i prefer to have HR with Fox Cunning. I admit even with hr its still better to use FR + SD, those 6 seconds alows u to trow all buffs at ease (also it helps to withstand balls), tho its possible without it. Basically just eye for an eye. ToI->shield->ITF->shield->ET->shield->FR->shield->ToI->shield and so go on. When u have 80% DR like me, he cant oneshoot u (mostly) so even taking a hit without shield up is not deadly, but with non-healing dc recovering from it may be hard, if u dont have FR already on (by time u activate FR, shield, and finally recover some HP he will trow hit on shield for 20-30k and one may end up dead).
I admit that going against edemo as conq with 33% DR (back then i was 2.8k IL) was easy and non challenging at all, now with Orcus, im happy i decided to redo my gf to high ITF buff one (still conq tho), being tougher rly helps in that fight.
(Sin)cerely Kain
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blazious11Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 331Arc User
I guess you can enter with any team if you go in private mode.
My story is truly a grand tale! Of course, any story about me is going to be grand simply by virtue of the main character.
I ran this a day ago with my praying alt GF, who got 'activated' bc I got the ring of rising defense+5 and I wanted to use this 'FU' for someone without a tank class and not refine it.
He has 2.3k IL, tactican spec. I used steely defense rank 4, shield talent, ITF, KV, enforced thread. I gave him a mystic DC artefact, so he should be immune to dmg for 6 seconds after the start of the boss fight.
I popped FR and while I used some skills, to get aggro, he killed me after 3 or 4 seconds. My question here is. Is there a dmg source ignoring steely defense, are 6 seconds not really 6 seconds or am I to stupid to count to 6?
BTW we did it after a few tries when an AP DC joined. He used AA and whenever I had the immunity from AA I dropped my guard, chasted my daily etc.
Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
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zekethesinnerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 805Arc User
So there is conq GF (me) PoV on CN.
For further informations, there was no HV/HP/Fabled set, dc was healing one with haste tho i personally didnt need it. IL window was 2.4k-3.8k. Starting with DC at 2.4k, cws being 3.1k and sw being 3.1k, me 3.8k (dont cry me here im overgeared, i worked on this gear for like 3 years now, so im actually ashamed im only 3.8k by now)
Ofc fight was rly short, so less chances for me to screw up.
its all about the rewards.. Ive gotten meh 4-5 r8s.. These r8s will be sub 20k probably in a couple weeks.
some crappy salvage
and 1 sig.. !!!!!!1!
6 runs this morning.. zero sigs dropped at all.
I AGAIN will earn more if I just run t1s.
How can this be? seriously? how can they design a more advanced dungeon to make you earn less per minute then a t1?
What a complete joke.
EVERY CN should drop AT LEAST 1 sig to roll on.. EVERY single one.
Im so pissed at this, I cant even think straight.
You earn about the same as a T1 with the potential to earn more. T1s can have even worse loot too, you can run elol and get one piece of salvage and thirty seals.
Chests can drop 2 pieces of salvage and a rank 8. So the upper ceiling without getting a shard is something like 77k (assuming rank 8s drop to 20k) on one run. In T1 you can at best get 25k. Atm rank 8s (aside from runestone) are more like 50k so it's more like 137k tops. This doesn't even include RP which frequently drops blue RP.
The thing that's even better is that you earn the currency to make the greater demonic key by running the dungeon.
Sure, you could run elol 2-3 times but over the course of multiple runs CN definitely pulls out ahead lootwise.
lol just like certain people who found a bug that lets you use the old gear an wipe out wod dragons in seconds, funny how the same people come an say how easy things are , i guess if you p2p the game is so easy, oh well i guess ya should learn to earn things the hard way as cn is not easy for those who didnt pay boat loads to have everything gold an myth.
1) I spent nothing on this game. I worked for ALL of it. 2) Please refer to my screenshot above.
lol just like certain people who found a bug that lets you use the old gear an wipe out wod dragons in seconds, funny how the same people come an say how easy things are , i guess if you p2p the game is so easy, oh well i guess ya should learn to earn things the hard way as cn is not easy for those who didnt pay boat loads to have everything gold an myth.
Here we go again. The great misconception about high IL players. I've been playing this game for 2 years and 2 months, and like Kain, I have worked hard to get my gear to where it is by playing the game. Only money I dropped on NW was mounts and packs (cosmetics), a few cr@ppy companions and maybe 1 Coal Ward way back when. I have 2 toons with 4 mythic artifacts each and legendary gear - didn't spend a dime to get them to max level. Expand your knowledge on refinement techniques and things will be a lot easier on your pocket.
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lol just like certain people who found a bug that lets you use the old gear an wipe out wod dragons in seconds, funny how the same people come an say how easy things are , i guess if you p2p the game is so easy, oh well i guess ya should learn to earn things the hard way as cn is not easy for those who didnt pay boat loads to have everything gold an myth.
lol.
Virtually no one pays much to play this game. The amount of cash it would take to straight up p2p makes it unfeasible. Virtually everyone grinds out their gear.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
In 6 runs on cn this morning I earned 66k ad on 3 class runs. in the same time frame I couldve made 120k in t1s on 5 different class runs.
1 dark 8 this morning.. no salvage drops , no sigals on 6 runs..
MAYBE you are right.. if you are running only 1-2 classes in cn.. vs 5-6 in t1s.
Overall if you multiclass.. I still contend t1s will give you faster return of AD for the time played.
the only way CN pulls out ahead is if you get lucky RNG.. which I havent yet..
I now have done .. like 40 runs.. for less then 4 r8s worth keeping and 1 sig win on a roll.
What a load of crock.
and yes.. the people who pay to get ahead in the game are very small % .. you might drop a few dollars here and there like I do.. but you cant really pay 2-3 k out of pocket to catch up.. its impossible.
You guys are nuts... Tried twice with (op-gf-sw-tr and myselef gwf) no bonding, we failed horribly, though op is 3.2IL and i'm 3.8IL, rest are 2.5/2.7k. We failed, with no dc and no build perma bubble, Orcus hits at 700k, nothing you can do... Second time with (dc-gf-cw-hr and myself) failed again. gf with 3.4IL 19k def. Got os everytime we got in. So explain me how is that easy?
you have to get a purple companion, that´s all, forget OP/GF
You guys are nuts... Tried twice with (op-gf-sw-tr and myselef gwf) no bonding, we failed horribly, though op is 3.2IL and i'm 3.8IL, rest are 2.5/2.7k. We failed, with no dc and no build perma bubble, Orcus hits at 700k, nothing you can do... Second time with (dc-gf-cw-hr and myself) failed again. gf with 3.4IL 19k def. Got os everytime we got in. So explain me how is that easy?
I dont understand something here, u cant enter with 2 tanks, so OP was devotion, So... how could u fail? 3.2k OP should outheal anything, assuming GF is doing his job correctly, i have 130k hp and im capped at 80% DR, and there is nothing than can onehoot me (beside balls), tho me taking dmg + some1 else taking dmg may be deadly. U traded Bubble/debuffs for crazy heal, and it should work as good as any of those.
Problem with gwf is, they r now one of most vulnerable classes, especially in fight like one with Orcus. U should minimize ur threat, so no DS and always make sure u r behind Orcus (on side will be prolly better tho).
Now about last question, i will gladly explain how i see it. First of all i prefer to have debuff dc in party (HP set, haste, righteous) Second of all i prefer to have HR with Fox Cunning. I admit even with hr its still better to use FR + SD, those 6 seconds alows u to trow all buffs at ease (also it helps to withstand balls), tho its possible without it. Basically just eye for an eye. ToI->shield->ITF->shield->ET->shield->FR->shield->ToI->shield and so go on. When u have 80% DR like me, he cant oneshoot u (mostly) so even taking a hit without shield up is not deadly, but with non-healing dc recovering from it may be hard, if u dont have FR already on (by time u activate FR, shield, and finally recover some HP he will trow hit on shield for 20-30k and one may end up dead).
I admit that going against edemo as conq with 33% DR (back then i was 2.8k IL) was easy and non challenging at all, now with Orcus, im happy i decided to redo my gf to high ITF buff one (still conq tho), being tougher rly helps in that fight.
(Sin)cerely Kain
giving up ds is like giving away my playstyle not our fault they didnt realise ds needed the temp hp filling from unstoppable that was there before.especially knowing how ds buffs our dps , kain i know i am not strong like you but i know when i say i speak for all those 2k il gwf players we got neutered badly .
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For people who have completed or even just attempted. Was the time/challenge vs reward satisfactory?
Ill maybe log in tomorrow.... maybe...
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IN OTHER hand we have the lazy orcus attacking hard meelee only players and the only hard part here is the green spheres.
Companions: a tank can too summon any companion and it will hit one time him one the gf or op( if they attempt to aggro)
SUMMARY: poor mechanics boss, rewards the best than all dungeons atm.
What will be the next stage? Maybe we will see SP coming back in a way, which favors only melee. Would be the same garbage in my eyes.
Other than this it is a foreseeable Management trick, called "crop rotation" here. It forces one to buy new character slots (does the bell ring?!), make new toon(s), which can do or can do the current content more easily and with next Mod make a turn again. No biggie, all of us, who were in a school for economics know these cheap tricks.
Sadly all too many gaming companies do it and then people and journalist search for the golden egg, why MMOs are in a decline period these days and they can do it, why not, most people can't see the wood from the tree, they are blinded by small gifts, goodies or only care for themselves. One example, before this Mod all cried about the Paladins causing lag and the boring nature of the bubble, now watch, 99% will keep shut, cause hey bubble makes things easy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
it´s a wide spread from "scrub to top"
I think most player just forgot how to tank...or never did tanking like it should be
what encounter and class feats does a GF use?
"Wow, that's incredible! How ever did you accomplish such a feat?"
"We threw a bunch of pebbles at him."
1)Orcus's fight reminded me Tuern's bossfight before mobs' arPen reduction. but Orcus's hits are more often and all of them are almost fatal for slow moving melee class like GF so marking target or activating Fighter's Recovery is very risky.1 second lag and you are kissing the dirt.
2)I couldnt find any time to buff my party or mark the Orcus while fending of Orcus's finger or other organs.Fight took longer than it should.
3)That yellow bond that pulls 2 players together is a big pain while tanking.First time I got pulled and got hit by Orcus' attacks before I can activate Fighter's recovery.Second time, I couldnt hold the aggro on me because I got pulled away and poor GWFs kissed the dirt.Lastly,I got pulled with DC and poor guy got the middle finger from Orcus when it was trying ot hit me.
I like the new instance, just not that the final guy sometimes permashields
zhentarim-warlock-companion
Pure -> Transcendent Plague Fire weapon enchantment giving 80damge/20 seconds for 500k+ AD is a joke.
plague-fire-weapon-enchant-r11-vs-r12
Sounds hard
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The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
Tried twice with (op-gf-sw-tr and myselef gwf) no bonding, we failed horribly, though op is 3.2IL and i'm 3.8IL, rest are 2.5/2.7k. We failed, with no dc and no build perma bubble, Orcus hits at 700k, nothing you can do...
Second time with (dc-gf-cw-hr and myself) failed again. gf with 3.4IL 19k def. Got os everytime we got in.
So explain me how is that easy?
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
Finished.
Problem with gwf is, they r now one of most vulnerable classes, especially in fight like one with Orcus. U should minimize ur threat, so no DS and always make sure u r behind Orcus (on side will be prolly better tho).
Now about last question, i will gladly explain how i see it. First of all i prefer to have debuff dc in party (HP set, haste, righteous) Second of all i prefer to have HR with Fox Cunning. I admit even with hr its still better to use FR + SD, those 6 seconds alows u to trow all buffs at ease (also it helps to withstand balls), tho its possible without it. Basically just eye for an eye. ToI->shield->ITF->shield->ET->shield->FR->shield->ToI->shield and so go on. When u have 80% DR like me, he cant oneshoot u (mostly) so even taking a hit without shield up is not deadly, but with non-healing dc recovering from it may be hard, if u dont have FR already on (by time u activate FR, shield, and finally recover some HP he will trow hit on shield for 20-30k and one may end up dead).
I admit that going against edemo as conq with 33% DR (back then i was 2.8k IL) was easy and non challenging at all, now with Orcus, im happy i decided to redo my gf to high ITF buff one (still conq tho), being tougher rly helps in that fight.
(Sin)cerely
Kain
He has 2.3k IL, tactican spec. I used steely defense rank 4, shield talent, ITF, KV, enforced thread. I gave him a mystic DC artefact, so he should be immune to dmg for 6 seconds after the start of the boss fight.
I popped FR and while I used some skills, to get aggro, he killed me after 3 or 4 seconds. My question here is. Is there a dmg source ignoring steely defense, are 6 seconds not really 6 seconds or am I to stupid to count to 6?
BTW we did it after a few tries when an AP DC joined. He used AA and whenever I had the immunity from AA I dropped my guard, chasted my daily etc.
For further informations, there was no HV/HP/Fabled set, dc was healing one with haste tho i personally didnt need it. IL window was 2.4k-3.8k. Starting with DC at 2.4k, cws being 3.1k and sw being 3.1k, me 3.8k (dont cry me here im overgeared, i worked on this gear for like 3 years now, so im actually ashamed im only 3.8k by now)
Ofc fight was rly short, so less chances for me to screw up.
I stand corrected, not 2x more hp for Orcus, please give him like 5x more.
(Sin)cerely
Kain
its all about the rewards.. Ive gotten meh 4-5 r8s.. These r8s will be sub 20k probably in a couple weeks.
some crappy salvage
and 1 sig.. !!!!!!1!
6 runs this morning.. zero sigs dropped at all.
I AGAIN will earn more if I just run t1s.
How can this be? seriously? how can they design a more advanced dungeon to make you earn less per minute then a t1?
What a complete joke.
EVERY CN should drop AT LEAST 1 sig to roll on.. EVERY single one.
Im so pissed at this, I cant even think straight.
Chests can drop 2 pieces of salvage and a rank 8. So the upper ceiling without getting a shard is something like 77k (assuming rank 8s drop to 20k) on one run. In T1 you can at best get 25k. Atm rank 8s (aside from runestone) are more like 50k so it's more like 137k tops. This doesn't even include RP which frequently drops blue RP.
The thing that's even better is that you earn the currency to make the greater demonic key by running the dungeon.
Sure, you could run elol 2-3 times but over the course of multiple runs CN definitely pulls out ahead lootwise.
2) Please refer to my screenshot above.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
lol.
Virtually no one pays much to play this game. The amount of cash it would take to straight up p2p makes it unfeasible. Virtually everyone grinds out their gear.
in the same time frame I couldve made 120k in t1s on 5 different class runs.
1 dark 8 this morning.. no salvage drops , no sigals on 6 runs..
MAYBE you are right.. if you are running only 1-2 classes in cn.. vs 5-6 in t1s.
Overall if you multiclass.. I still contend t1s will give you faster return of AD for the time played.
the only way CN pulls out ahead is if you get lucky RNG.. which I havent yet..
I now have done .. like 40 runs.. for less then 4 r8s worth keeping and 1 sig win on a roll.
What a load of crock.
and yes.. the people who pay to get ahead in the game are very small % .. you might drop a few dollars here and there like I do.. but you cant really pay 2-3 k out of pocket to catch up.. its impossible.
grind your tail off.. grind grind grind..
look at video again.