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$200 and Still No Metallic Dragon Race

quvrsoulquvrsoul Member Posts: 5 Arc User
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HOW MUCH FREAKIN MONEY DOES IT TAKE! I want to know the actual chances from an official...THIS SUX. I'm done trying and I'm freakin angry the chance is so low. Just messed up. KK i'm done venting.

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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Ummm, you probably don't want to hear this, but if you had converted that $200 worth of Zen to AD instead of buying keys, you could have bought the metallic dragonborn race off the AH. :(
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  • quvrsoulquvrsoul Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    it's just messed up......
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  • quvrsoulquvrsoul Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    No matter what the chances being so low are crappy and I'm not giving this compnay anymore money. There is one in auction. Just 1. But whatever...won't happen again.
  • quvrsoulquvrsoul Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    I'm someone willing to pay and i feel punished for it.
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  • tomiotartomiotar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 227 Arc User
    The odds of getting it are so low that you will have to drop a few grands and is still unlikely. In case you hadn't noticed yet, the odd of getting anything decent from a lockbox are so low that you can spend all the money you earn during a year and still get nothing good. The idea is getting you addicted, not giving you a price.
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  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    The metallic dragon born race can also be obtained from the legendary glorious resurgence pack (under refinement in the AH).
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  • mmm1001mmm1001 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 497 Arc User
    I am just wondering, Do cryptic have license to offer gambling services? Because in some countries providing service like this to children is considered crime, and providing it to adults requites special license.... Just wondering :)
  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    mmm1001 said:

    I am just wondering, Do cryptic have license to offer gambling services? Because in some countries providing service like this to children is considered crime, and providing it to adults requites special license.... Just wondering :)

    So far, game studios have avoided this problem because currently it's not considered gambling. Every box offers a reward, just not the best reward. So its not a pure win or lose type of activity. In fact, depending on the box. A person can actually make a profit just from selling any and all prizes rewarded.

    So in the case of the OP. Yes, they spent money opening boxes. but that $200 isn't a complete loss if they sold and profited all the rewards earned in the process of opening all those boxes.

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  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    quvrsoul said:

    HOW MUCH FREAKIN MONEY DOES IT TAKE! I want to know the actual chances from an official...THIS SUX. I'm done trying and I'm freakin angry the chance is so low. Just messed up. KK i'm done venting.

    The chance for a legendary drop is 0.05% or 1 out of 2000 boxes.
    The chance for an epic drop is 0.5% or 1 out of 200 boxes.

    So getting a Metallic Dragonborn with 178 keys (your 200$) would actually be lucky and not ragetastic. Sell everything you got and you might land enough to buy the race off the AH though.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    As mentioned above, if you want something special, rather buy it from the AH directly.

    Or go ViP.
    Wait for the daily lockbox key.
    Open as mentioned above the Glorious Resurgence lockboxes.
    At some point you should either get your Dragonborn race from a Glorious Resurgence Legendary Pack, or have enough AD from selling all the other loot to buy the Glorious Resurgence Legendary Pack from the AH.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    tousseau said:

    The fates have obviously found you to be wanting... so they conspired against you.

    I have found that when opening lockboxes, to not to expect to hit paydirt. Because you will rarely do so... so, when it does happen, it is more of a pleasant surprise than a let down.

    I always agree with this and it really isn't just in terms of lockboxes. It's any time you are doing something with a random return. If you want it you won't get it.

    In other games which had rare random monster drops I learned that I could spend hours upon hours trying to get a specific result and not get it and the experience was much better when I just stopped expecting it. You can chalk it up to supersticion if you like but it kind of goes hand in hand with idioms such as "A watched pot never boils."

    Try it. Obviously the pot will boil but good grief it will feel like it takes forever compared to when you are not caring about the result.
    mmm1001 said:

    I am just wondering, Do cryptic have license to offer gambling services? Because in some countries providing service like this to children is considered crime, and providing it to adults requites special license.... Just wondering :)

    As was already said the governments are run by...people who are too old to be in control of modern technology. They don't understand games and definitely don't understand MMO's. Another game I played literally added in a wheel of fortune in which you could pay to spin the wheel. The community threw a fit and complained to the organization in control of the british gambling practices and their response, paraphrased, was this:

    "The items in the game have no value so people are paying for spins and what they receive from the spins is irrelevant since any reward will be worthless."

    Basically if the items were physical it would have a value but because these idiots live in the 1950's they don't consider it a problem. It is quite baffling too since the same company had active lawsuits against bot companies in which they were winning by arguing that the gold had an intrinsic value and companies selling the gold were in a sense selling their property (stealing)...

    So yeah....we'll likely have to wait until people from our generation get into office in order to realistic regulations on what is considered gambling in MMO's. The ONLY way it is not gambling is when you buy into the idea only physical objects have value which is most definitely not true *coughs* Bitcoin *coughs*. But as it is right now there are no laws which govern video game gambling.
  • gomok72gomok72 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    We have all been here, Just save your AD, buy Zen and convert it to get the Metallic Dragonborn. Also, It's not that high of a bonus playing metallic versus regular ingame, too be honest.
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  • frozenfirevrfrozenfirevr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,475 Community Moderator
    @quvrsoul, but why do you want Metallic Dragonborn? Which class are you?
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  • myleafsmyleafs Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    mmm1001 said:

    I am just wondering, Do cryptic have license to offer gambling services? Because in some countries providing service like this to children is considered crime, and providing it to adults requites special license.... Just wondering :)</block

    You are Wrong. It's not considered gambling under the Law. It's not a real currency and you can't take it with you. Many sites do the same. For example, Poker Stars Full Tilt poker and Zenga all sell poker chips for people to wager; but they are play chips. Government has already looked into it and allows it.

    You can buy keys simply by playing the game; you don't have to use real money. It's your choice.

  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited February 2016
    By that definition underage people should be allowed to gamble so long as they are not using a currency. If a casino did not allow people under the age of 18 to cash in the chips then they would be exactly the same as chips at a casino are worthless as well. Of course kids simply get an adult to cash in their chips against the rules of the casino but as it so happens they can also sell their in game currency against the rules of any MMO as well.

    Currency is just a standardized measurement of value to facilitate more equal trading so we don't have to try to balance a trade of apples and oranges. However every thing in the world both physical and digital has value. One easy example is that software (such as a Windows operating system) which is completely digital is sold for a currency value. Gambling is not defined as only to do with winning or losing currency... It is winning and losing value.

    Without a doubt that is the loophole applied as I previously mentioned but it is still a matter of the government's of the world being run by people who do not understand technology. They do not understand that in game items have a value because they don't have any experience in the subject. The current laws do prohibit these practices if the politicians accept that in game items have a value whether they have value to the politicians or not.
  • myleafsmyleafs Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    No, if you are selling virtual goods, you are using them for other than their intended purposes- so who is to blame? I can tow a car with a chain, I can pick up people and use my car as a taxi, and I can buy beer and sell it when the beer store is closed. Unfortunately those things are illegal. While gaming companies and publishers can't make laws that are enforceable, they can include it in the terms of service and try to prevent those things from happening. That's about as much as they can do. If lawmakers made virtual items the property of the gamer/user, what would that do to the gaming industry? People would just sell their accounts when they are done with them and those accounts would be recycled over and over again. Look at the profit margins then, not good.
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