Motes for weapons 100 to go.. this is the worst thing ever. Please correct this...

usssuprise · February 2016

Im a huge fan of the game but this about grinding the same encounter over and over and over and over ... and over and over... is Tedious hell i would rather slam my head into a brick wall then do this but the thing is you leave us no choice but to do it?! never have i seen u fall so far from your standards.. Please players used to have a choice these tedious task's are scaring people away from the game.. i showed this on a stream and the response was basically this "Yea wont play that" and "Wow thats the worst ive seen ever" Now trying my best to give the game a good rep and telling friends how good the game is, is hard when you have a quest like this killing the game..

Motes for weapon's quest's needs a change, add motes to instances? add them in some other way? give more motes per boss encounter? Make it maybe 30 motes instead of 100? JUST DO SOMETHING!!

I have nothing against grinding instances for instance hell i loved castle never i loved how you worked ur way to get that epic drop.. but this is not the way to go, Revamp these weapon quest's and il start streaming again.

Sinc; Arieswar.

bitt3rnightmar3 · February 2016

I'd like to see dungeons guarantee Mote drops if someone has the quest for it active. That way they aren't stuck doing an entirely meaningless task (Heroic Enounters) for x hours without being able to progress their toon. Of course- this would be an optional way to accomplish the task as I am suggesting.

Maybe with Mod 9?

ECC - Water Motes
Karrundax - Fire motes
PK- Air motes
FH - Earth Motes

Pretty simple there.

Of course Mad Dragon would be closer to the right EE area for earth motes but Icespire is a mountain and MD is not coming back yet..

plasticbat · February 2016

Not the worst thing ever in Neverwinter. IMO, the worst thing ever is Masterwork.

silverkelt · February 2016

sadly, the design falters when you something so tedious is gated behind hes.. these weapons might still be useful to some in 2 mods time (who knows) but no one will earn any of the more unique ones.

Which is why Ive stated my idea many times.

STOP giving us new LEGENDARY weapons and ADD aspects instead.

This way we never lose RP.. but, we truly have weapons that could grow with us, you get several aspect icons open and you choose the ones you want to institue into the aspect slot.

So if you EVER earn fire mote aspect, you keep it forever on that toon, allowing you to slot it in and out.. ect ect ect..

This seems like a better idea then this junk weapons every few months thing.. and maybe would be more of a incentive to earn something.

Right now its like.. meh 100 motes once.. ok.. doing it on a alt.. screw that.. we get new weapons too often to WORRY about that right now.

plasticbat · February 2016

I got my fire mote set and the sad part is I don't even know why I did that. They are sitting in my bag. I got one piece of Twisted and it is still in my bag waiting for the off hand and I have not actively gone to eDemo. In the meanwhile, I am still using the Elemental fire one and kind of happy about it. I was feeding 'green' to the Fire mote pair (still green). Now, I am feeding 'green' to the Twisted main hand (now blue). At the moment, it serves as a garbage can for me to trash those green junk. By the time I go back to eDemo, it may become purple already.

usssuprise · February 2016

thanks for the Feedback people please hold this topic alive so devs can have time to see it.
Im actully thinking of trying to get a less good weapon somewhere to just have something until they change this HAMSTER.
Im 70 motes from my water weapon atm and it come to the point where i totally went.. **** this...

plasticbat · February 2016

usssuprise said:
thanks for the Feedback people please hold this topic alive so devs can have time to see it.
Im actully thinking of trying to get a less good weapon somewhere to just have something until they change this HAMSTER.
Im 70 motes from my water weapon atm and it come to the point where i totally went.. **** this...

Water one is supposed to be the easiest one among 4.

rickcase276 · February 2016

I am on my 16th and final character getting the water/fire weapons. It is not really that bad, just have to have determination to finish it.

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minotaur2857 · February 2016

The fire mote is just terrible, the HEs need a redesign. I got 2 motes off my first 8 small HEs, it's taken me another 21 to get another, so with 2 from the big HE and 0/1 from the Emberclaw, I'm on 5/100 after MANY hours of play.

Why is fire particularly bad even without the drop rate ?

The two sites for the small HE are right at opposite ends of the zone and take the best part of a minute to get to from a central point. I can solo the HE on my pally in a minute, so anybody with real DPS can do it much faster, so you arrive at a completed HE much of the time.

At the times I'm doing this there is often only one non full instance so you can't even switch to get more. They also only spawn very infrequently, maybe one at each site every 15 mins, and the medium HE Emberclaw unlike some of the others in other zones is not soloable for me, and it's very rare for anybody to bother with it.

This creates a lack of opportunities/hour at doable HEs, meaning it would take too many wands for it to be worth buying them.

silverkelt · February 2016

rickcase276 said:
I am on my 16th and final character getting the water/fire weapons. It is not really that bad, just have to have determination to finish it.

GIve me the pure # of hours you did this.

I will tell you straight up, any game that would require this from player base to gear alts.. is ridiculous. You are in the extreme minority, probably a class by yourself frankly , there probably isnt anyone with even 8 of these weapons.. let alone 16. Grats?

A SMALL minority might have 3-4 of these weapons (less then 1-2% of the playerbase)

Another 10-15% have 1 of them. (usually fire or water for either ap gain or pvp purposes)

the rest said, screw that.. would rather troll around in edemo for twisted weapons anyways.

beckylunatic · February 2016

silverkelt said:

A SMALL minority might have 3-4 of these weapons (less then 1-2% of the playerbase)

I have a guildie in that position. Done 4 sets and working on a 5th, I think.

I can't even quite bring myself to finish one.

rickcase276 · February 2016

It would have been about 160 hours, over about 4 weeks. But yes the majority of players would not even consider doing a second one, let alone 16. But it is no worse than running the demonic HEs to get the drowcraft armors, and that is gated at 400 per week. I would rather farm something that I can on my own schedule than be gated by restrictions.

That being said, I am glad that I am finished getting the weapons, now the fun of getting the rp to level them up, but that is another matter entirely. I would only ever do it again when they add another class, and if there is not an easier or better choice, that I have no issues running. Group closed instances are not the best for me, as my graphics card interacts with some spells badly.

linaduin · February 2016

I spent two hours grinding 'crab motes' in the first week then decided I had better things to do. All my toons still use the elemental weapons. It's not like there's new PVE content in the game anywhere that requires better weapons.

ianthewizard2012 · February 2016

Understandable. But you haven't heard of "Linu's Favor", have you?

linaduin · February 2016

ianthewizard2012 said:
Understandable. But you haven't heard of "Linu's Favor", have you?

In a way I find Linus less annoying, partly because it's an objective that I will simply never achieve so I don't even try. Maybe in a year some of my toons will get the penultimate WoD boon, maybe not - I don't care. But being sent back to the awful Elemental Evil zone to pointlessly grind out 100 of the same HE using player counters and instance swapping, to get a weapon that I don't really need and which will be made redundant soon anyway? If it was a zone that I was questing in anyway (e.g. WoD) and I picked the motes up as I went along (like Linus) and eventually earned the weapon I could deal with that. Being told to earn the weapon by slamming my head against a brick wall as fast as possible, in a pre-level 70 zone that I couldn't wait to leave the first time around, until it really hurts, is too much.

I understand that Cryptic might want the achievement to take a long time, but do they have to make it so tedious? For those that really wanted the weapons (on 8 toons even!) it didn't even take all that long -you could get 100 motes in a day if you had the requisite personality defects. If their objective was to make it take a long time they failed. If their objective was to make it incredibly boring and unrewarding then they succeeded.

santralafax · February 2016

I fed my water weapons to my twisted already. Now want to earn a second set of weapons and am unable to get the water quest again. Why?????

I see no reason these can only be earned once. Perhaps you could place a rule that you can't get a quest for a weapon you have in inventory, if that is the issue the devs have with a second earning.

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beckylunatic · February 2016

santralafax said:
I fed my water weapons to my twisted already. Now want to earn a second set of weapons and am unable to get the water quest again. Why?????

I see no reason these can only be earned once. Perhaps you could place a rule that you can't get a quest for a weapon you have in inventory, if that is the issue the devs have with a second earning.

This was acknowledged as an issue by Asterdahl and they're looking at making it possible to re-earn them. I wouldn't expect that soon due to Maze Engine crunch, but they do know.

fantasycharacter · February 2016

silverkelt said:

rickcase276 said:
I am on my 16th and final character getting the water/fire weapons. It is not really that bad, just have to have determination to finish it.
GIve me the pure # of hours you did this.

IDK what it took him, but the easiest to get is roughly 10 hrs of play/character.

keep in mind that is totally dependant on there being enough population and the level of co-operation between those farming.

santralafax · February 2016

defiantone99 said:

santralafax said:
I fed my water weapons to my twisted already. Now want to earn a second set of weapons and am unable to get the water quest again. Why?????

I see no reason these can only be earned once.
Since they are account bound, you just need to get them on an alt of the same class.

Good idea, but I don't intend to level up another GWF from scratch. Thanks for the idea, though.

venuslightheart · February 2016

I agree something has to be changed. Fire and Water Weapons are still active. I rarely see anyone on Earth and Air Weapon. I think most people gave up on Air Weapon.

putzboy78 · February 2016

one hour into farming motes i discarded the quest and went to edemo :-). Twisted is so much faster and easier. It's not my prefered set but I refuse to sit in zone spamming for mote party invites

Motes for weapons 100 to go.. this is the worst thing ever. Please correct this...

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