New BiS "Adorable Bites" rings from New Life legendary lockboxes

beatannier · January 2016

TLDR
New companion gear provides almost +40% damage. New BiS.

Full post
So the New Life legendary lockboxes offers new "Adorable" companion gear, including Ring of Adorable Bites:

This is the very first ring with 2 slots for attack, Power and Crit.
Compared to currect BiS Loyal Avengers, let it count towards the Crit:

Old "Avenger"

652 Power
652 Crit
435 Arpen
1 Offense slot = 700 Crit
1 Deffense slot

New "Adorable Bites"

521 Power
348 Crit
2 Offense slots = 1400 Crit

Let's skip Arpen as all well geared characters caps too much of them in PvE and let's skip defense right now.

Adorable Bites over Avenger:

−131 Power
+396 Crit

Let's multiple it by 4.9 (companion "influence"):
5 stacks of Bonding Runestone (Warlock, LIghtfoot etc.) Rank 12 ×95% each +15% Legendary Bonus = 490%.

−642 Power ~= −1.6% Damage
+1940 Crit ~= +4.85% Crit ~= +14.55% Damage
Counting it with Lostmauth and other class feats/boons/passives etc. we used to count: +1% Crit chance = +3% damage.

Let's sum it up:
14.55% − 1.6% = +12.95% Damage

And now, let's multiple it by 3 (number of companion gear):
All types: Rings, Necklaces, Belts, Talismans, Icons and Knots have same ratings as Ring.

+12.95% ×3 = +38.85% damage

flyingleon · January 2016

Well, you average 5 stacks of bonding? How come? Though I know you can get more than 3 stacks but is it really that reliable? 2 stacks seems more reasonable.

1% crit chance for 3% damage? Are you sure? You mean the capstone of rene cw could proc 90% damage bonus to the party with +30% crit chance? Well, I am not say you are wrong but that against my experience.

Edit: With high crit severity, 1% crit chance may really gives a lot damage increase. I wonder elol set bonus can be transfered to how much crit severity?

dfnce · January 2016

wrong post / to delete

blazious11 · January 2016

I only saw ring with 2 offense slots so far. I don't know if there's any good bonding companion with 3 ring slots, I guess there isn't.

Also, in all my toons I add the armorpen from companions to the basic calculation. So I try not to choose armor set pieces with armorpen on it, or artifakts, only lostmauth, neck and waist has arp. I hit the cap with these most of the times.
With dark on offense slot, or crit - arp - def set pieces i'd loose damage.

beatannier · January 2016

All Rings, Necklaces, Belts, Talismans, Icons and Knots have same ratings as Ring.
There are same versions for all of them with same ratings, like "Talisman of Adorable Bites" etc.

I mean, there are 6 types of gear with the very same ratings:

Girdle of Adorable Bites
Icon of Adorable Bites
Necklace of Adorable Bites
Ring of Adorable Bites
Sword Knot of Adorable Bites
Talisman of Adorable Bites

@dfnce I calculated ×4.9 from Bonding first, not ×3 from 3 pieces of companion gear. Read with understanding.

flyingleon · January 2016

Well I at least can prove one assumption is wrong: 5 stacks of gift. With the adorable gear you suggest, you get 5600+ crit stat from one stack of bonding. 14% crit chance per stack. In this case, most bis players will not benifit from more than 3 stacks of gift because 100% chance cap. Since you use rank 12 azure, I assume the players close to BIS.

wentris · January 2016

flyingleon said:
Well I at least can prove one assumption is wrong: 5 stacks of gift. With the adorable gear you suggest, you get 5600+ crit stat from one stack of bonding. 14% crit chance per stack. In this case, most bis players will not benifit from more than 3 stacks of gift because 100% chance cap. Since you use rank 12 azure, I assume the players close to BIS.

I dont think thats the point - it was just an example. Swap Azure with Brutal, or Radiant the result is the same - new, legendary drop from lockbox only item is BiS. If anybody farmed Avenger gear on Gateway thats a pretty big hit for them, since from BiS they're going to be a "cheaper replacement for lockbox stuff", which obviously will hit their value.

beatannier · January 2016

Personally, I use Brutals (100% Critical chance cap).
Still, Power + Crit + 2 offense slots are BiS independing on if you will put Power or Crit or whatever matches your build' needs.

flyingleon · January 2016

@wentris, well, my point is that you can increase your crit chance but at 100% cap, you can not benifit from crit chance increase. What you assume, you get not additional crit but other stat like power which is less efficient than crit. Just a reminder for theory craft.

illhora · January 2016

beatannier said:
Personally, I use Brutals (100% Critical chance cap).
Still, Power + Crit + 2 offense slots are BiS independing on if you will put Power or Crit or whatever matches your build' needs.

Multi stats enchants doesnt works properly on Pet with bouding stone , if i m right.

thefabricant · January 2016

illhora said:

beatannier said:
Personally, I use Brutals (100% Critical chance cap).
Still, Power + Crit + 2 offense slots are BiS independing on if you will put Power or Crit or whatever matches your build' needs.
Multi stats enchants doesnt works properly on Pet with bouding stone , if i m right.

It does work properly. (just tested it.)

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silverkelt · January 2016

Frankly.. this is a ridiculous introduction.. that doesn't mean I wont get some (after price drops a bit)

This is the HAMSTER that they dont get..

why even bother doing swordcoast anymore?

There was zero.. ZERO reason to introduce more power creeping on this.

Sigh.

mrgiggles651 · January 2016

silverkelt said:

why even bother doing swordcoast anymore?

Buy lockbox keys.

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silverkelt · January 2016

It took me on average 20 mins or so to finish a adventure.. my average wins would net me less then 5k total.. I wouldnt have called it a money maker.

It was however, at least something fun to do with your comps..

now since there is almost NO Reason to do it at all.. I wont bother..

mightyeriksson · January 2016

defiantone99 said:

silverkelt said:
Frankly.. this is a ridiculous introduction.. that doesn't mean I wont get some (after price drops a bit)

This is the HAMSTER that they dont get..

why even bother doing swordcoast anymore?

There was zero.. ZERO reason to introduce more power creeping on this.

Sigh.
It seems a 2 birds with one stone thing, give Xbone companion gear without giving them the gateway, cut PC player income from SCA.

I can't understand why they didn't just put the companion only gear in the loot-table on a Skirmish or Dungeon on XB1...
On topic, these look great, maybe they could throw people a bone, and shovel them in as loot in the "new" returning Dungeons too?

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scathias · January 2016

Are you really averaging 5 stacks of bonding from a Zhentarim Warlock? That is way outside of my experience in using one. I have seen 5 stacks, but my average is much much closer to 3. Maybe this works with a lightfoot thief but i have never used one of them

thefabricant · January 2016

scathias said:
Are you really averaging 5 stacks of bonding from a Zhentarim Warlock? That is way outside of my experience in using one. I have seen 5 stacks, but my average is much much closer to 3. Maybe this works with a lightfoot thief but i have never used one of them

I know I average 5 on lightfoot, however, when I tested my zhent (named cookie cutter companion) I found it averages 3.

karakla1 · January 2016

I have the feeling i stumbled across some HAMSTER post. So let me clarify it for the people that can't do math.

Old Gear - Avenger Ring
Total amount of statpoints (If you slot rank 12) = 3.139
649 Power
649 Critical Strike
435 Armor Penetration
One Offensive Slot (+700 to stat of your choice)
One Defensive Slot (+700 to stat of your choice)

New Gear - Adorable Ring
Total amount of statpoints (If you slot rank 12) = 2.269
521 Power
348 Critical Strike
Two Offensive Slots (2x +700 to a stat or two of your choice)

If we assume we stack critical strike the Old Ring can get 1.349 and the New Ring gets 1.748. That means if you wanna stack more critical strike the new ring is better by about 399 stat points per ring. Which mean if you happen to get a companion with three ring slots you get 1.197 additional critical strike which are aout +3% more critical strike. Tha is the stat increase for critical strike if you get 100% of the stats transfered (like for an augment companion). If you have Perfect Bonding Runestones (Rank 10) you get almost 6% additional critical strike for about 16 seconds. If you have rank 12 bonding runestones you get about 8-9% more critical strike for about 16 seconds. If i am not too far off you get an average of 4-5% additional strike because of how the bonding runestones proc.

However, that comparsion lacks one critical feature, the fact that the new ring itself lacks about 870 stat points. Stat points like 435 Armor Penetration a stat necessary to pierce through the armor of monsters. A stat that has some kind of cap (about 6,000 Armor Penetration is most of the time enough) which mean you can rearrange your equipment to invest in other stats, as for example critical strike. That means you can get 1.305 more critical strike which is +3% critical chance. In comparsion with the new ring slotted in an augment it makes no difference, you also lose stat points (about 3x870 which mean you lose 2.610 stat points). If you use an companion to proc the bonding runestones the difference is between 0-3% in critical strike. A bit higher in the peak of rank 12 bonding runestone proccs but some players mentioned this already in this very forum: If you happen to have such a high geared companion, you get also a high geared character which mean you clear monster groups faster than the bonding runestones can procc and even if you happen to have a longer fight to procc all the stacks the difference is not that big (how do you come to +40% more damage?)

Overall. The new rings are a nice gimmick that you happen to get out of the lockbox and aren't that good at all. Please stop posting bulls.hit

Thank you

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karakla1 · January 2016

I want also to voice that i have a problem with how OP states that 1% critical strike equals +3% damage without proper calculation how he gets these +3% damage.

blazious11 · January 2016

I would agree with karakla's. I built my charackters around the + armorpenetration from the companion. So I could only use Lostmauth set, and maximum one armorpen armor set + (greater red dragon gylphs if necessary). If I'd change to the new ring, I would have to compensate for the loss of armorpen with other gear choices or enchantments, where I could lose for example 700 -1400 crit. Also, defense and lifesteal might be missed from def slots.

Also, I think, that bonding proc over 3 are not WAI, and will be patched sometime. Maybe not soon. (Or it is WAI?)

However, if you have the Armored Axe break, go for the new adorable.

dwarfdurin · January 2016

karakla1 said:

Overall. The new rings are a nice gimmick that you happen to get out of the lockbox and aren't that good at all. Please stop posting bulls.hit

Thank you

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