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Remove the cowardice ring untill it's fixed please !

setillsetill Member Posts: 90 Arc User
in PvP Discussion
It's making PvP unplaybale, why keep a broken item ingame ?
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    I recommand everyone to run a warlock and cast some dots on someone using that ring, its a bit funny, only a bit
    because doing so you get frequently beamed 50 feet away in DOM from node 3 upwards on the higher ranks with your back to the wall looking down on the scene from far above, sometimes it saves your bu.d beeing "perma-knocked" sometimes you just can´t do anything being fixed at the wall helplessly
    every DOT-Tick one knockback, try capture a node like that
  • twoedge1twoedge1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 79 Arc User
    Fix? lol.. When has pvp not been broken by some item or some class feature. This seems like the status quo for pvp.
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  • spdragon99spdragon99 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    shadw2012 said:

    Last i heard PvP is broken itself, lol. Why change the ring that is working fine, it would affect PvE. I still say either remove it or give pvp its own server away from PvE. This way the toxic cesspool that pvp is will be in its own little world, as it should be.

    How does it HELP in PvE? Are you one of those people who slot it in Demogorgon fight and repel it?
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    spdragon99 said:

    shadw2012 said:

    Last i heard PvP is broken itself, lol. Why change the ring that is working fine, it would affect PvE. I still say either remove it or give pvp its own server away from PvE. This way the toxic cesspool that pvp is will be in its own little world, as it should be.

    How does it HELP in PvE? Are you one of those people who slot it in Demogorgon fight and repel it?
    His point was more that every time they try to fix PvP the fix doesn't do anything about PvP being broken and PvE players have to deal with the consequences.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    They are intentionally killing it, wake up.
    One just doesnt have those brilliant ideas casually
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    rayrdan said:

    They are intentionally killing it, wake up.

    One just doesnt have those brilliant ideas casually

    The PVP design in this game seems pretty flimsy and the devs have been beating it up pretty hard, starting with the snails, and untold slotted enchants, axebeaks and whatever. Now there are freaky rings most people salvage--but not in PVP!
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    Not to mention it's still the same two maps in PVP. At least Domination. Seriously could they not have made a couple more in the past 2+ years to add to the rotation for a bit more variety? Then again they only seem to nerf and take away stuff (AD.. dungeons, anyone?) and not add so I guess that makes sense. No need to break with tradition.

    Having said that it really sucks how they tried to shoehorn PVP balancing along with PVE which only ends up making people on both sides suffer. This is the last RPG game I play that does that. Either have no PVP or have that as it's own unique thing.

    Note: The last time I played PVP was before Underdark came out so there is a possibility they added another map or two since then. But I think I can pretty confidentially say that has not been the case.
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    I hate that ring. So much.

    As a warlock with DoT its just... Unplayable.

    You know I got pushed and launched way the hell up on a ledge in a corner in Rivenscar.. in a place I don't even think a TR could get. But with 30 repels forced down your throat in a few seconds, you can get there!
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  • taitinhakkaajataitinhakkaaja Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    That ring ended my pvp career. (SW fury)
  • szejhuludpuchaczszejhuludpuchacz Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    shadw2012 said:

    spdragon99 said:

    shadw2012 said:

    Last i heard PvP is broken itself, lol. Why change the ring that is working fine, it would affect PvE. I still say either remove it or give pvp its own server away from PvE. This way the toxic cesspool that pvp is will be in its own little world, as it should be.

    How does it HELP in PvE? Are you one of those people who slot it in Demogorgon fight and repel it?
    God no, i don't even use those rings, as they are all useless to me. No, simply put, i control and kill during first phase then DPS the ext 2 phases, I know how to play, thanks.

    Besides I would rather kill things than push them away, kinda defeats the purpose.
    So why you defend them? Its not WAI even in PvE. Im casual pvper but those rings making me avoid pvp for a while... I know some of my BiS pvp guildies deny to use them, so do I. PvP should be fun addiction to this game not broken sh... like now.
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  • korden1korden1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 61 Arc User
    How would you propose to change it? 1 time for second like avalanche, or change totally the mechanism?
  • melodiezxxmelodiezxx Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    ^ easy fix.. Remove them
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    korden1 said:

    How would you propose to change it? 1 time for second like avalanche, or change totally the mechanism?

    isnt it SUPPOSED to have an ICD already listed on the ring? Like a 20 second CD? Or do I have the wrong ring in mind here?

    Also the repel + control effects should be effected by tenacity...
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  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    i am taking a break until that Cowardice ring and OP's DP gets fixed/reworked. I can still kill 99% of the ppl using that stupid ring, but it makes the fight very UNfun, so is Divine Protection... 20 seconds invincibility and only takes 15 seconds to gain enough AP to recast it again.... boring as HAMSTER :\
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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    icyphish said:

    i am taking a break until that Cowardice ring and OP's DP gets fixed/reworked. I can still kill 99% of the ppl using that stupid ring, but it makes the fight very UNfun, so is Divine Protection... 20 seconds invincibility and only takes 15 seconds to gain enough AP to recast it again.... boring as HAMSTER :\

    ay, i am starting looking for black des atm
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  • setillsetill Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    macjae said:

    People quitting PvP due to other players exploiting broken mechanics isn't exactly new. For example, some TRs and GWFs used Terror enchantments before Feytouched became de rigeur for everyone -- and Terror was broken in the exact same way, with a root effect that would proc more often than intended.

    Sometimes, the world offers a small way to exact justice against those bullies. Using a Cowardice Ring against someone that abused the same type of bugged effect from the Terror Enchantment against you in the past is justice, and all the sweeter the harder they complain -- because it just makes it clear how awesomely hypocritical they are.

    And that makes you the biggest hypocrite, playing repel ring + ambush on your SW and CW (and die ofc)
    Terror was bugged in two way, maybe it proc'ed the root more often as you say (maybe because need proof) but the counter part was it didn't debuff at all. Now it's fixed.
  • melodiezxxmelodiezxx Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    I feel bad for you pc players looks to me like after EE the game just went straight downhill for Yall
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    setill said:

    macjae said:

    People quitting PvP due to other players exploiting broken mechanics isn't exactly new. For example, some TRs and GWFs used Terror enchantments before Feytouched became de rigeur for everyone -- and Terror was broken in the exact same way, with a root effect that would proc more often than intended.

    Sometimes, the world offers a small way to exact justice against those bullies. Using a Cowardice Ring against someone that abused the same type of bugged effect from the Terror Enchantment against you in the past is justice, and all the sweeter the harder they complain -- because it just makes it clear how awesomely hypocritical they are.

    And that makes you the biggest hypocrite, playing repel ring + ambush on your SW and CW (and die ofc)
    Terror was bugged in two way, maybe it proc'ed the root more often as you say (maybe because need proof) but the counter part was it didn't debuff at all. Now it's fixed.
    it is not eaxctly fixed... procs about every 5 seconds last time I met someone wearing it
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    melodiezxx said:

    I feel bad for you pc players looks to me like after EE the game just went straight downhill for Yall

    Yep. I was really surprised they didn't include EE when they put out NWO for XBOX from the start, so that people wouldn't have to go through so much AGAIN. Salvaging equipment, sudden loss of dungeons, etc. Really sadistic to the players, esp. when they'd only been playing a few months.
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