Strongholds Patchnotes

armadeonx · October 2015

Does anyone have a link for the patchnotes for next week's update? I've seen a few references to them but can't find them anywhere.

I'm sure many would like to know the changes that are coming rather than find out the day before/after like we usually do.

stpensive · October 2015

Ill second this. I have looked but I can't find anything. Please don't let it be the PC version.

mightyeriksson · October 2015

stpensive said:
Ill second this. I have looked but I can't find anything. Please don't let it be the PC version.

Why wouldn't it be?
Even if they said on Twitter that they wouldn't make changes on one system based on issues with on the other platform, they still made them...
And when a mod/representative of Cryptic clearly said we would get an announcement ahead of any leaderhip changes, there was nothing, so why would this time be any different?

deathbringer · October 2015

It will probably be the same as PC just like everything else. And they did inform everyone about leadership changes over a month before it happened fyi

drexci · October 2015

deathbringer#1709 said:
It will probably be the same as PC just like everything else. And they did inform everyone about leadership changes over a month before it happened fyi

Pity they didn't inform us about the greater mark change and the fact that there was a double rp event the week before. Also EE shipped with all the same bugs as the pc version so why should SH be any different.

mightyeriksson · October 2015

deathbringer#1709 said:
It will probably be the same as PC just like everything else. And they did inform everyone about leadership changes over a month before it happened fyi

Please show me where that information regarding RAD-removal in leadership on Xbox One was posted a month in advance?

deathbringer · October 2015

@mightyeriksson It was on the forum in one of their front page postings. Even One of the Mods here stated that they informed us over a month beforehand. It was Zebular or Kreatyve( however the name is spelled). So its not me just randomly saying this there are other that saw the article.

pbrand45 · October 2015

LOL

meliboo · October 2015

Yes I remember that article as well mighty. It was on the front forum page. And even if you didn't see that, there have been multiple post about it from PC, and I am sure someone from PC posted in here telling people not to invest in leadership because this would happen. I don't know how you could have missed multiple posts about it being "nerfed", but it was everywhere it could be haha

mrwilsonva · October 2015

Until we catch up with PC, I always assume what PC gets, we get. So a trip over to PC Forum Land will keep you informed of coming changes. The only thing that we do not know is the Timing of the Changes. I for one thought we would get the Leadership AD removal and the GMOP issue with Strongholds.

mightyeriksson · October 2015

deathbringer#1709 said:
@mightyeriksson It was on the forum in one of their front page postings. Even One of the Mods here stated that they informed us over a month beforehand. It was Zebular or Kreatyve( however the name is spelled). So its not me just randomly saying this there are other that saw the article.

Post by Kreatyve:

"At this time, all evidence suggests that these changes are coming to PC only. Should things change and they decide to bring the changes to Xbox, there will be an official topic created there about it."

And then there was nothing...

Maybe you're mixing PC up with Xbox, but if you go through every newsarticle here:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news

you will find no official topics or articles about leadership on Xbox, until the patchnotes the day before.

And there was even a tweet by a developer that clearly said that they would not change xbox based on issues on PC.
(Even if (probably the same dev? now says that xbox will get the same changes as PC, no matter what the reasons might be)

I would gladly accept that I am wrong if you show me the article or topic that adressed the changes, even a week in advance...

mightyeriksson · October 2015

meliboo#4082 said:
Yes I remember that article as well mighty. It was on the front forum page. And even if you didn't see that, there have been multiple post about it from PC, and I am sure someone from PC posted in here telling people not to invest in leadership because this would happen. I don't know how you could have missed multiple posts about it being "nerfed", but it was everywhere it could be haha

Where is that (xbox)article then?

meliboo · October 2015

Am I supposed to keep a record of the articles? I know I saw something about it before the change happened. And whether or not you can find the article it was mentioned in or not, I'm sure on this forum there was someone telling people not to invest in leadership. So if you didn't see the article, are you saying you did not see any posts on here either?

mightyeriksson · October 2015

meliboo#4082 said:
Am I supposed to keep a record of the articles? I know I saw something about it before the change happened. And whether or not you can find the article it was mentioned in or not, I'm sure on this forum there was someone telling people not to invest in leadership. So if you didn't see the article, are you saying you did not see any posts on here either?

If you say there has been a news article regarding the leaderhip change on Xbox, you are wrong, if you say an official employee has made a topic about it, you are also wrong.

Lots of people have said they thought it would come to Xbox, but NO developers/mods, even when they said they would.

(link to Kreatyve saying they would inform us in advance, but that wasn't true : http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203939/so-whats-all-this-about-ad-changes-and-leadership-not-giving-any-ad-coming-soon-too-xbox-1-discuss

It has nothing to do with wether I can find it or not, it simply does not exist...

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news

This lists all the news articles on Neverwinter Xbox, nothing there about Leadership, go figure...

armadeonx · October 2015

I think we all know by now that Cryptic will have a big fanfare for positive changes but try to ninja in the bad ones then run for cover.

It's completely juvenile and treats the player base like a bunch of idiots.

zebular · October 2015

mightyeriksson said:

stpensive said:
Ill second this. I have looked but I can't find anything. Please don't let it be the PC version.
Why wouldn't it be?
Even if they said on Twitter that they wouldn't make changes on one system based on issues with on the other platform, they still made them...
And when a mod/representative of Cryptic clearly said we would get an announcement ahead of any leaderhip changes, there was nothing, so why would this time be any different?

mightyeriksson said:

deathbringer#1709 said:
@mightyeriksson It was on the forum in one of their front page postings. Even One of the Mods here stated that they informed us over a month beforehand. It was Zebular or Kreatyve( however the name is spelled). So its not me just randomly saying this there are other that saw the article.
Post by Kreatyve:

"At this time, all evidence suggests that these changes are coming to PC only. Should things change and they decide to bring the changes to Xbox, there will be an official topic created there about it."

And then there was nothing...

Maybe you're mixing PC up with Xbox, but if you go through every newsarticle here:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news

you will find no official topics or articles about leadership on Xbox, until the patchnotes the day before.

And there was even a tweet by a developer that clearly said that they would not change xbox based on issues on PC.
(Even if (probably the same dev? now says that xbox will get the same changes as PC, no matter what the reasons might be)

I would gladly accept that I am wrong if you show me the article or topic that adressed the changes, even a week in advance...

mightyeriksson said:

meliboo#4082 said:
Am I supposed to keep a record of the articles? I know I saw something about it before the change happened. And whether or not you can find the article it was mentioned in or not, I'm sure on this forum there was someone telling people not to invest in leadership. So if you didn't see the article, are you saying you did not see any posts on here either?
If you say there has been a news article regarding the leaderhip change on Xbox, you are wrong, if you say an official employee has made a topic about it, you are also wrong.

Lots of people have said they thought it would come to Xbox, but NO developers/mods, even when they said they would.

(link to Kreatyve saying they would inform us in advance, but that wasn't true : http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203939/so-whats-all-this-about-ad-changes-and-leadership-not-giving-any-ad-coming-soon-too-xbox-1-discuss

It has nothing to do with wether I can find it or not, it simply does not exist...

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news

This lists all the news articles on Neverwinter Xbox, nothing there about Leadership, go figure...

It was announced on the forum the week before it went live on the PC and it was announced the day before it went live on the XBOX in the patch notes for the XBOX, which has an officially made topic. As well, Developer Goatshark said on Reddit over a month ago in an Official AMA that the changes would indeed be coming to the XBOX.

The remarks about "a month before" are probably folks recalling the long discussions about Leadership being removed from the Gateway almost two months before the changes were announced for the PC and then updated in August.

zebular · October 2015

armadeonx said:
Does anyone have a link for the patchnotes for next week's update? I've seen a few references to them but can't find them anywhere.

I'm sure many would like to know the changes that are coming rather than find out the day before/after like we usually do.

XBOX Patch Notes will be located here in the XBOX news and/or here in the XBOX patch notes forum. At the time of this post, there are no XBOX specific patch notes available for the XBOX. The comments you're referring to are probably folks remarking about Stongholds PC patch notes, as it is a safe bet to assume what happens on the PC will eventually come to the XBOX as the PC gets the updates first.

flarestar · October 2015

it was also announced by the lead game designer for neverwinter a month in advance

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/3kgxc8/its_cryptic_studios_developers_of_neverwinter_ask/cuxc5a8?context=3

"Botters are only part of the equation. When we looked at the data of where AD was coming into the economy, we found that PC had a MAJOR issue with botting leadership. When we looked at the data on Xbox, we found 2 things: 1. No botting so no massive explosion of AD. 2. The amount of AD coming into the economy from Leadership was actually small.
According to our data, removing AD from Leadership wouldn't have much of an effect on Xbox, and would solve a dramatic issue on PC. We also noticed that the amount of AD coming into the economy from the dailies/hourlies on dungeons and skirmishes was lower than expected on Xbox. This wasn't because people weren't running that content, they just weren't able to run at the most opportune times, which meant no bonus rewards. These new changes, across the board, should increase the amount of AD in the hands of the average player on Xbox.
While we are currently on 2 different versions (and could have 2 different ways the game works), we are trying very hard to get to parity between Xbox and PC."

pbrand45 · October 2015

Hmmm, so if I want neverwinter news. The offical neverwinter news or forum will not have that info. I need to do an internet search and goto other sites like reddits. Makes perfect sense.

deathbringer · October 2015

Wow, look what we have there. Seems I was at least partially correct. I don't expect an apology for coming at me the way you did mighty, but I accept it either way. Next time maybe you should do some research before attacking people. Have a good day.

pbrand45 · October 2015

It was on the forum in one of their front page postings. Even One of the Mods here stated that they informed us over a month beforehand. It was Zebular or Kreatyve( however the name is spelled). So its not me just randomly saying this there are other that saw the article.

This statement is 100% wrong. Imaginary posts are not real

zebular · October 2015

The developer AMA was posted about on our front page news. Closing this up now as this thread has had to be moderated and posts edited and removed far too much in too little a time.

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