Stronghold Siege PvP Maintenance 9/15 at 7AM PDT

strumslinger · September 2015

Update: Maintenance is complete!

Well met, adventurers! We're having our Stronghold Siege PvP Maintenance tomorrow 9/15 at 7AM PDT for roughly 2 hours. Patch notes can be found here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9550473

Make sure to hop on over to our stream while the game undergoes maintenance: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9550523

two30 · September 2015

I hope everyone remembers to collect their final leadership tasks before 7am PDT.

arabatur · September 2015

Astral Diamond Changes
Daily quests have been removed in favor of awarding AD when completing Skirmishes, Dungeons or Domination PvP content.
Domination PvP now has AD added to the completion of this content up to a daily cap.
The Skirmish and Dungeon hourly events have been removed from the rotation in favor of just awarding AD for completion of this content up to a daily cap.
More detailed information about these changes can be found here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203585/astral-diamond-changes

Time to hibernate methinks. I hope that when I return there will be some semblance of the game I enjoyed, not the moribund shell we have now.

d4rthd00fus · September 2015

Dammit why did I think we had until Thursday for the NWO world to end. Ah well so long and thanks for all the fish!

foxxy · September 2015

Just as expected cryptic never takes its community's feedback.
It is the same thing over and over. You release a patch with broken and unbalanced stuff despited all the feedback given before going live, then months later you realize that was game-breaking and you "take" people's point of views and start making some fixes, too late for that.

Is it hard to understand that you guys are literally HAMSTER your game?. Whats the new crytpic boss doing?. You never think of your community's concerns, but their wallet as always.

flyingleon · September 2015

You really pick a bad timing to do leadership change. See nobody cares about the new pvp siege. And it is so obvious that this will happen. Give more AD to players by playing dungeons , skirmish and pvp first, then gradually nerf leadership AD. Things will look much better.

b4rb4r1k · September 2015

I have a feeling the stream will amount to a mass of unhappy ex-players asking poor Strum why he didn't head this off when there was a chance and talking about what games they will be headed to next XD

tripsofthrymr · September 2015

Just when I had started to spend money on the game again

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1200120/i-spent-money-today

Cryptic decides to undermine the trust they were slowly rebuilding with me by removing AD from Leadership, even though there are many good suggestions for a measured and balanced change in the official thread, rather than this nerf-it-all solution.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203585/astral-diamond-changes

Alienated customers don't spend real money. Scott Shicoff if you are reading this, have someone in customer service look up how much real money I have spent. It's not the many thousands of dollars some claim to have spent, but it's not pocket change either. I really, really want this game to be successful, to respect its players, and to find financial success for its creators. As things stand, I'm back to "not spending more real money". Please do something to change my mind again.

b4rb4r1k · September 2015

tripsofthrymr said:
Just when I had started to spend money on the game again

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1200120/i-spent-money-today

Cryptic decides to undermine the trust they were slowly rebuilding with me by removing AD from Leadership, even though there are many good suggestions for a measured and balanced change in the official thread, rather than this nerf-it-all solution.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203585/astral-diamond-changes

Alienated customers don't spend real money. Scott Shicoff if you are reading this, have someone in customer service look up how much real money I have spent. It's not the many thousands of dollars some claim to have spent, but it's not pocket change either. I really, really want this game to be successful, to respect its players, and to find financial success for its creators. As things stand, I'm back to "not spending more real money". Please do something to change my mind again.

Best bet is just walk away with the rest of us tomorrow. Check back in a month or so when hopefully Mr. "I_Dont_Care_Wut_U_Think" Shicoff and his policies are no longer a part of this game. I might check back around Mod 8 and see what that's about. I don't have high hopes though considering all that has happened with the last few mods.

jaotut · September 2015

strumslinger said:
Well met, adventurers! We're having our Stronghold Siege PvP Maintenance tomorrow 9/15 at 7AM PDT for roughly 2 hours

2 hours? is that a lie or a typo? just tell us the truth that the estimated time is 5 hours

regenerde · September 2015

d4rthd00fus said:
Dammit why did I think we had until Thursday for the NWO world to end. Ah well so long and thanks for all the fish!

Well, they want to let the players enjoy the great Stronghold PvP of course...

blureel · September 2015

All I can say is if stronghold pvp is anything like regular (5v5) PvP, then this game is done. I just finished 2 straight matches of mismatched teams. my team with 0 kills out of all 5 players and the other team with chars who can't die even with 3 v1.

Now picture that with 20 v 20 with PvP guilds. Solo play is dead in this game and Cryptic just doesn't seem to care...

urabask · September 2015

Wooo. More dumb **** for the 1% of the people playing this game that actually care about PVP.

vinceent1 · September 2015

blureel said:
All I can say is if stronghold pvp is anything like regular (5v5) PvP, then this game is done. I just finished 2 straight matches of mismatched teams. my team with 0 kills out of all 5 players and the other team with chars who can't die even with 3 v1.

Now picture that with 20 v 20 with PvP guilds. Solo play is dead in this game and Cryptic just doesn't seem to care...

it will be much worse. you opponent will be full pvp guild and your team will be you and afkers and bots

cheyennemountain · September 2015

Well, I'd opened my wallet for VIP because it seemed they were starting to listen to feedback and communicate better in general.
By instigating this without considering the vast AD sinks that are disproportionate to the new model of the economy, I will not be and I suspect that many of my guildies will not be advancing our SH much further if at all.
You want us to do pvp "as a new source of AD", but these patch notes have no mention of re-balancing the AP/Stamina drain overloads.
This means that the bigger guilds who reached this point in the last few days (and those who got the enchants through more nefarious means), will have an overwhelming advantage beyond the disparities that were already present.
I am just staggered at the lack of joined up thinking here, and at the decision maker's assumption that the community will just swallow the bitter pill because it's labelled as medicine.
It's not medicine, it's an arsenic that will slowly accumulate with each dose until we as a gaming population, are no more.

Incidentally, no more $$ until you sort yourselves and show that you actually value our custom

eskevar · September 2015

Interesting. I open my client and i read this: "We will be performing shard maintenance on September 14th from 7-9 AM Pacific (14:00-16:00 UTC). Please check the forums."
The patch is for "14th sept" so is yet online? LOL
They dont know how write a simple date on a phrase too, and you think they know how manage a game...

osterdrache · September 2015

Maybe outsourced to India or something.
Or maybe the devs are dev-BOTS.

Because they are repeating their shi… over and over again without thinking :-D

torontodave · September 2015

cheyennemountain said:

You want us to do pvp "as a new source of AD", but these patch notes have no mention of re-balancing the AP/Stamina drain overloads.

there are AP/Stamina WARDs that prevent these drain overloads from having an effect I believe.

I like the paradigm shift with the new wards, I can selectively target classes now. Paper/Rock/Scissors without knowing what the other guy is gonna throw. Again, slayers + WARD enchants. =X

ashnvf · September 2015

**crickets***

jaotut · September 2015

torontodave said:

cheyennemountain said:

You want us to do pvp "as a new source of AD", but these patch notes have no mention of re-balancing the AP/Stamina drain overloads.
there are AP/Stamina WARDs that prevent these drain overloads from having an effect I believe.

I like the paradigm shift with the new wards, I can selectively target classes now. Paper/Rock/Scissors without knowing what the other guy is gonna throw. Again, slayers + WARD enchants. =X

and how do you suggest people without marketplace rank 4 to get these?

cheyennemountain · September 2015

torontodave said:

cheyennemountain said:

You want us to do pvp "as a new source of AD", but these patch notes have no mention of re-balancing the AP/Stamina drain overloads.
there are AP/Stamina WARDs that prevent these drain overloads from having an effect I believe.

I like the paradigm shift with the new wards, I can selectively target classes now. Paper/Rock/Scissors without knowing what the other guy is gonna throw. Again, slayers + WARD enchants. =X

Absolutely dave, although these wards are only available at the same rank Stronghold as the drain overloads, so still further out of reach for many with the AD change.

It's collateral damage that hasn't been considered with the roll out of this "fix". Were AD requirements to be removed from stronghold upgrades/AD tokens made available from leadership the situation wouldn't be as untenable.
However, as was written by panderous in patchnotes on preview shard:

panderus said:

obsidiancran3 said:
Is it possible for Leadership tasks to get AD Coffers for Strongholds to replace actual AD?
The Strongholds AD requirements were fine when Leadership produced AD, now they are overwhelming in their requirements given that you have largely removed access to AD for many players. This would also make the time we invested in levelling Leadership valuable for those of us who did so.
That is an interesting suggestion, I will forward it along.

The collateral fallout throughout the rest of the game hasn't been considered

darkdrayken · September 2015

Ya'll sort of HAMSTER the bed with the date in the launcher, says September 14th instead of 15th.

regenerde · September 2015

Well, a small step into the right direction...
+ 10 minutes warning
+ 5 minutes warning
but they pull the plug less then 3 minutes after the last warning.

Must be a running joke for that "admin". Or is there some internal betting pool running on how many players he can kick from the server before every patch?

vinceent1 · September 2015

prettycelt said:
Cryptic, until you take a majority of the player community's advice for once and get rid of (or at least strip from gear) Tenacity, it's pretty much assured the battlefields in Siege PvP will be largely empty. You simply do not have enough hardcore PvPer's in the game to make it work, and those of us who have by and large avoided PvP (for an entire host of reasons covered on many other threads) will not set foot in what is just a larger-scale version of Gauntlgrym. It's suicide, frustration in a can, and that's NOT fun.

Get rid of Tenacity, allow the rest of us to stand a bloody chance in there, and maybe we'll reconsider.

its the same as NCL event, when enough of players participate, then almost everyone has enough fun. at least at the beginning of this mod its shouldnt be so bad....

niadan · September 2015

Buy a whole set of Guild PVP gear with your already maxed out Guild shards and try to have some fun. Win or loose We Booze!

sharky445 · September 2015

Alrighty then ..Prepare for war..no wait war is upon us lets get JIGGY! likeing not having to wait to do dailies etc and f the botters hard men!

sharky445 · September 2015

vinceent1 said:

prettycelt said:
Cryptic, until you take a majority of the player community's advice for once and get rid of (or at least strip from gear) Tenacity, it's pretty much assured the battlefields in Siege PvP will be largely empty. You simply do not have enough hardcore PvPer's in the game to make it work, and those of us who have by and large avoided PvP (for an entire host of reasons covered on many other threads) will not set foot in what is just a larger-scale version of Gauntlgrym. It's suicide, frustration in a can, and that's NOT fun.

Get rid of Tenacity, allow the rest of us to stand a bloody chance in there, and maybe we'll reconsider.
its the same as NCL event, when enough of players participate, then almost everyone has enough fun. at least at the beginning of this mod its shouldnt be so bad....

sharky445 · September 2015

vinceent1 said:

prettycelt said:
Cryptic, until you take a majority of the player community's advice for once and get rid of (or at least strip from gear) Tenacity, it's pretty much assured the battlefields in Siege PvP will be largely empty. You simply do not have enough hardcore PvPer's in the game to make it work, and those of us who have by and large avoided PvP (for an entire host of reasons covered on many other threads) will not set foot in what is just a larger-scale version of Gauntlgrym. It's suicide, frustration in a can, and that's NOT fun.

Get rid of Tenacity, allow the rest of us to stand a bloody chance in there, and maybe we'll reconsider.
its the same as NCL event, when enough of players participate, then almost everyone has enough fun. at least at the beginning of this mod its shouldnt be so bad....

sharky445 · September 2015

Typical British puke! Vincent the negative loser! Leave bro and dontlet door hit u in the HAMSTER! Mate lmao! As far as no ad in leadership is concerned i watched many of trolls diss this game to u i saysuck it! PLAY YOUR DANG CHARS U WELFARE leaches! As arnold would say "Stop your whining"

tripsofthrymr · September 2015

sharky445 said:
Typical British puke! Vincent the negative loser! Leave bro and dontlet door hit u in the HAMSTER! Mate lmao! As far as no ad in leadership is concerned i watched many of trolls diss this game to u i saysuck it! PLAY YOUR DANG CHARS U WELFARE leaches! As arnold would say "Stop your whining"

I'm guessing you didn't invest time (lots, lots of time) and money building up leadership. AD via Leadership was a bad design decision, but it has been part of the game since before Day 1. Removing something that people have invested significant sweat into might sound wonderful to people that have not actually done any work in that area, but it is entirely unfare to the people that played the game as it was laid out to us. Think of something, in the game or in real life, that you have spent a lot of time on. Surely, there must be something. Now imagine someone takes that away from you "for the greater good."

There are plentiful solid suggestions for addressing the bot issue while retaining AD.

reiwulf · September 2015

oh I thought this patch was going on thursday, not today. I'll be checking to see if anything will change in the ZaX market.

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