Expensive old mounts useless

gankdalf · August 2015

[Armored Bulette] (Legendary)
[Heavy Giant Spider] (Epic from expensive box)
[Black Ice Warhorse] (Legendary)
[Rage Drake] (Epic)
[Stormraider Clydesdale] (Epic)
[Shadow Wolf] (Epic)
[Gelatinous Cube] (green upgraded rank 3)
[Hell Hound] (blue upgraded rank 3)

Mounts for like 50m AD are now useless since they have no stats/power like the new mounts.

This is very very bad. Not only did I waste so much zen/ad on these, but now all the players run around with the same mounts. Its boring. And all the time and effort you devs put into making these are now also wasted.

Add stats to them. I dont care what, just something. It cant be that hard. If you are lazy, then just add the same stats to them all.

looomis · August 2015

Why should they change something? You already invested your money. :P

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gankdalf · August 2015

looomis wrote: »

Why should they change something? You already invested your money. :P

Because Im not investing anymore if they screw me over.

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suicidalgodot · August 2015

raistlintao wrote: »

And another one - -

Floating Disk

Nah. That's still stylish!

Rage Drake, maybe, too, and the Spider has only been one of a whole bunch of goodies, plus account wide.

....but all the others now are only fugly mementoes to the volatility of value...

looomis · August 2015

ejziponken wrote: »

looomis wrote: »

Why should they change something? You already invested your money. :P

Because Im not investing anymore if they screw me over.

Whats the matter to have several mounts with the same abilities? Either your investment was bad, or you like different models. I dont want to question your financial abilities, so the models remain, and they still remain.

Of course they should add a new mount training, but they won't. They have to gate the new mounts through key-use only.

myrkolith · August 2015

The way I look at it, the few extra stats, and the skill that it gives are not worth it. Considering both of those new epic mounts are ugly as can be personally. I still ride the other mounts that I picked up, and have no intention of ever riding the new epic ones unless they make something that actually looks good + has the new features...

angrysprite · August 2015

I'd be happy if I could get a Mount Training just to get that 140% speed boost. The rest of the stats: keep 'em.

myrkolith · August 2015

In most cases though, for PvE you really don't need the extra speed from the mount. The only place it would even matter is in PvP for capping nodes, or for the upcoming Stronghold PvP as people with faster mounts would have an advantage over the ones with slower mounts...

theycallmetomu · August 2015

If the new mounts are truly worthless, then their price will come down on the AH.

If someone's buying them at the price on the AH, then they're worth that much, at least to collectors.

I will say, though, that if you're going to try and sell something for 10mil AD, you really need rank 8+ VIP pass to avoid the posting cost, because the chances of someone actually buying your item are pretty low.

regenerde · August 2015

Nothing will change, and new lockboxes will come with new mounts and better/new powers... a take it, or leave it deal.

angrysprite · August 2015

Yes. AH Prices are actually going UP: Because of VIP program: removes posting fees, so now there is no perceived ceiling for the amount they sell stuff for. I saw a Legendary mount for 35 Million in AH today. 35 *Million*. Seriously? LOL But what to expect: it's now free to auction anything for any price as there is no posting fee (Obviously there is a selling fee, but at that price why would the seller care?)

Mounts are a dime-dozen now. Better to just buy one Zen Market Epic that you like and save your money. Sure: 140% Speed would be nice, but it's not THAT big of a boost over the 120%. You get a bigger boost between the 80% and 120% as it is, in fact: it's a bigger boost up to 80% - you can see and feel those. Now if they ever come up with a training manual IV to boost an epic to legendary on the speed thing? Then it depends on the cost, but I agree: the PvPers will jump on that.

As for the idea of 'pay-gate" (I'm not calling it pay-to-win...yet) yes there is one, in a sense, that you must buy Keys to open lockbox for a ridiculously slim chance of winning an epic or legendary mount. But *technically* it's not a pay-gate because you can earn AD for free and change for Zen.

Technically.

rversant · September 2015

I would be happy to be able to "skin" my mount. so I could use the Flail snail. but Transmute it too look like a Heavy Inferno Nightmare, or a Tensers disc.

vordayn · September 2015

Or making those mounts upgradeable to get extra bonuses - that would be good too, and will keep them relevant.

icyphish · September 2015

i wanna transmute my ugly snail into SUPER AMAZING NCL mount

Sell the transmuter on Zen shop and just take my money already!!!

xgrandz02 · September 2015

Not only -
Expensive old mounts useless", any Kind of Mounts below 140% Speed,
is getting useless.

I think a Mount Training R3 to Rank4 Book" (to 140% speed) will surely coming!
we have just to be Patient.

"Mount Training IV"

for example i will upgrade my [Guard Drake]

regenerde · September 2015

Yeah, and you may find such an item in the next new lockbox... with a 1% droprate of course.

angrysprite · September 2015

regenerde said:
Yeah, and you may find such an item in the next new lockbox... with a 1% droprate of course.

A full 1% drop rate? You must be new here.

cesuke · September 2015

Yes Man the chance is far less than 1%, i opened 110 lockboxes at time... Got pure useless stuff... Not even the 3rd place prize just Tarmalune Bars and proffesion packs...

regenerde · September 2015

The chance is 1% with every lockbox, it doesn't matter how many lockboxes you open, your chance doesn't increase magically, it stays the same 1% each and every time.

It would be nice, if there were a "hidden" counter for those lockboxes, and after a certain amount of HAMSTER you would receive something good at last... but that is not the case.

balorin · September 2015

Only one way to fix that problem, give some interesting rewards for the collection system and people won't complain about old, out of date or useless items-mounts or other things in the future.

instynctive · September 2015

Useless?

Hrmm...

I press "7". My bear appears. I press "W" or "T".

I move forward.

Beats the hell out of walking everywhere.

I wouldn't say "useless"....

beaghan1 · September 2015

balorin said:
Only one way to fix that problem, give some interesting rewards for the collection system and people won't complain about old, out of date or useless items-mounts or other things in the future.

I agree that'd be a huge help. Training manuals to raise anything to max would help too.

rinat114 · September 2015

Tell that to my Tenser's

rversant · September 2015

regenerde said:
The chance is 1% with every lockbox, it doesn't matter how many lockboxes you open, your chance doesn't increase magically, it stays the same 1% each and every time.

It would be nice, if there were a "hidden" counter for those lockboxes, and after a certain amount of HAMSTER you would receive something good at last... but that is not the case.

Not sure where you got 1%. here are some actual stats from older boxes.

http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/RNG_Tests#Unearthed_Lockbox

regenerde · September 2015

rversant said:

regenerde said:
The chance is 1% with every lockbox, it doesn't matter how many lockboxes you open, your chance doesn't increase magically, it stays the same 1% each and every time.

It would be nice, if there were a "hidden" counter for those lockboxes, and after a certain amount of HAMSTER you would receive something good at last... but that is not the case.
Not sure where you got 1%. here are some actual stats from older boxes.

http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/RNG_Tests#Unearthed_Lockbox

This was about a new item, that would allow you to upgrade your epic mount... just saying that if the Devs decide to create such an item, it will only be available from a lockbox with a low droprate (= 1%).

But looking at the charts, 0.10% might be more fitting for it.

Expensive old mounts useless

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