I know that the minimum GS for epic dungeons is 8300. But I've been going in there with 10.6k and have difficulty with them. Dread Vault im having worse luck and have been avoiding it all together. Bosses are where i'm having the most trouble. Most of the time i'm having 1 hit deaths and have to watch from the sidelines after dying twice. What would you say should be a more reasonable minimum where you don't get crushed.
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That is a bum deal! Even when spec'd properly it was tough yesterday joining as a random.
Hope is gets better for you but running with a guild is best.
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Edit: Also, what is up with the TR hate when looking for groups? I always see, "LFG for blah blah NO TR." The TR makes runs a lot quicker and can move around a lot easier than any other class. So, I don't understand why people hate in the TR. I told someone that a group of 5 TR running through PK would be the fastest run ever, and he said no it wouldn't with no reason why lol. People just hate the TR to hate the TR.
.. Teucer (HR) / Maximus Decimus (DC) .. GT: ApexDemon
And I do use my brain, but these dumb dumb people are the ones who kick the 8300 gs people, which is the PK requirement, just to make the run faster. Those 8300gs NEED to run t2s, but they cant if they are getting kicked by some no life dumba** who THINKS they need 13k+
Castle Never is an easy dungeon, it's just long. Epic Dread Vault is the hardest dungeon in the game imo. Its the only dungeon I have yet to complete
Only time one of our groups will kick anyone is when we ask guys not to run ahead and stay with the group and they ignore the wishes of the majority or if they ignore requests not to trigger the loot screens when everyone is in combat with the mobs.
We have taken to farming PK by killing everything in the dungeon to build stuff for the coming mod revision
The only time we run through is if dungeon delves is running.
Over the weekend with a a full group of guildies, we had 8 crashes in one run
You also mentioned people looking for higher geared players to run the dungeon with. You have to realize they are trying to run through it faster. A fresh 8,300 gs player will be much slower than, using your example, a 13,000+ gs player.
Now, I don't support the random kicking without a real reason or giving the player a chance to prove themselves. (You can always ask the person to stop picking up everything, especially during combat, aggro-ing unwanted mobs, etc. before resorting to kicking) However, if someone is trying to make a group with a certain regime, so be it. Why do you need to concern yourself with someone making a group of people to play with?
In any case, I am fairly sure the reason people farm PK is for quick shots at Greater Marks NOT the HAMSTER gear drops. So your assertion that they don't want TR for that reason is somewhat invalid imo.
As for the gs, I was not really questioning the forming of a group with 13k+ gs, I was saying that people KICK lower gs people who queued for PK. Those low gs people may need to run PK to get their gear, but these A-holes kick them just to make it quicker. IF they want a QUICK run, by all means form your group beforehand. But don't kick the new lvl 60 just because they are trying to get their gear.....like we all had to do!
People do farm PK for chances at Greater Marks, but I know multiple rogues that will go to PK during Delves for that easy salvage game. Not to mention, if we're talking about being kicked when the TR enters the dungeon, it's 100% more likely to be because of the salvage rogue drops than the Greater Marks. This is why I mentioned it, well that, and the fact that people don't even realize that still.
And of course I agree. People at that gearscore are more than likely trying to actually get their gear or even just start working on their ad gain. The only thing that truly bothers me in T2s is people who have to pick up every single green item in the dungeon. At that point in the game, you're going for your epic pieces, aka good gear, not garbage pickups.