Epic T2 minimum GS

wonderfitz

I know that the minimum GS for epic dungeons is 8300. But I've been going in there with 10.6k and have difficulty with them. Dread Vault im having worse luck and have been avoiding it all together. Bosses are where i'm having the most trouble. Most of the time i'm having 1 hit deaths and have to watch from the sidelines after dying twice. What would you say should be a more reasonable minimum where you don't get crushed.

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fluffyr00

Epic Dread Vault is by far the hardest boss battle imo. I have been tryin to finish off as much as I can in the journal and the only dungeon I have yet to complete is Epic Dread Vault

fineturtle1633

I run Pirate King at least 5 times a day, a cleric with 10.5gs and quite good - i find its who you play with whether an dungeon is easy or not, most randoms are great but like today - i got my first artefact weapon from the tyranny of dragons went up to 11.4gs and was kicked from PK for having green stuff!! patience and find a good group -

patsfire

LOL Epic Dread Vault. I remember trying to beat that for ages. I could never find a group that could pull it off. Not until my TR was about 16k gs and I ran with my guild could I finally beat that darn dungeon. It is most certainly a doozy.

davidagaldo

fineturtle1633 wrote: »

i got my first artefact weapon from the tyranny of dragons went up to 11.4gs and was kicked from PK for having green stuff!! patience and find a good group -

That is a bum deal! Even when spec'd properly it was tough yesterday joining as a random.

Hope is gets better for you but running with a guild is best.

patsfire

I think it is hilarious to see so many people spamming, "lfg PK 13k gs+ ONLY". I just lol since PK is the easiest dungeon in the game and people really think they need 13k gs+.

Edit: Also, what is up with the TR hate when looking for groups? I always see, "LFG for blah blah NO TR." The TR makes runs a lot quicker and can move around a lot easier than any other class. So, I don't understand why people hate in the TR. I told someone that a group of 5 TR running through PK would be the fastest run ever, and he said no it wouldn't with no reason why lol. People just hate the TR to hate the TR.

davidagaldo

I did not get that... I was trying to build the astral for my Rogue and was kicked immediately. Ended up farming WoD and did ok with the Epic drops there.

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patsfire

No no, I have asked multiple people spamming NO TR and they all say they just don't want a TR....they DONT already have one in the group smh....

And I do use my brain, but these dumb dumb people are the ones who kick the 8300 gs people, which is the PK requirement, just to make the run faster. Those 8300gs NEED to run t2s, but they cant if they are getting kicked by some no life dumba** who THINKS they need 13k+

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wonderfitz

thankfully i haven't been kicked yet from PK and i do find it relatively easy. How difficult is Castle Never compared to Dread Vault and PK?

fluffyr00

wonderfitz wrote: »

thankfully i haven't been kicked yet from PK and i do find it relatively easy. How difficult is Castle Never compared to Dread Vault and PK?

Castle Never is an easy dungeon, it's just long. Epic Dread Vault is the hardest dungeon in the game imo. Its the only dungeon I have yet to complete

mahburg

We run PK constantly and never need a Cleric, formed a Guild with a group of other guys who were sick of being booted and looted.
Only time one of our groups will kick anyone is when we ask guys not to run ahead and stay with the group and they ignore the wishes of the majority or if they ignore requests not to trigger the loot screens when everyone is in combat with the mobs.
We have taken to farming PK by killing everything in the dungeon to build stuff for the coming mod revision

The only time we run through is if dungeon delves is running.

fluffyr00

I avoid PK at all costs as im sick of that dungeon crashing. Prefer Temple of Spider for for dungeon delves.

mahburg

fluffyr00 wrote: »

I avoid PK at all costs as im sick of that dungeon crashing. Prefer Temple of Spider for for dungeon delves.

Yep it does crash a lot, at least when you come back, you come back in broadly where you crashed out so don't have to run all the way through.
Over the weekend with a a full group of guildies, we had 8 crashes in one run

zelinktheone3

patsfire said:

No no, I have asked multiple people spamming NO TR and they all say they just don't want a TR....they DONT already have one in the group smh....



And I do use my brain, but these dumb dumb people are the ones who kick the 8300 gs people, which is the PK requirement, just to make the run faster. Those 8300gs NEED to run t2s, but they cant if they are getting kicked by some no life dumba** who THINKS they need 13k+

You're thinking about this the wrong way. PK will consistently drop more rogue pieces than any other pieces. People who know this will try to make groups without a rogue in order for everyone to have a chance at the drops.

You also mentioned people looking for higher geared players to run the dungeon with. You have to realize they are trying to run through it faster. A fresh 8,300 gs player will be much slower than, using your example, a 13,000+ gs player.

Now, I don't support the random kicking without a real reason or giving the player a chance to prove themselves. (You can always ask the person to stop picking up everything, especially during combat, aggro-ing unwanted mobs, etc. before resorting to kicking) However, if someone is trying to make a group with a certain regime, so be it. Why do you need to concern yourself with someone making a group of people to play with?

patsfire

Its just that I hate to see people not only kicking low gs people, but then specifically saying the TR is horrible and not needed. I can understand forming a group with certain gs and classes, but I just think they shouldn't disrespect a class just because they want drops as you say.

In any case, I am fairly sure the reason people farm PK is for quick shots at Greater Marks NOT the HAMSTER gear drops. So your assertion that they don't want TR for that reason is somewhat invalid imo.

As for the gs, I was not really questioning the forming of a group with 13k+ gs, I was saying that people KICK lower gs people who queued for PK. Those low gs people may need to run PK to get their gear, but these A-holes kick them just to make it quicker. IF they want a QUICK run, by all means form your group beforehand. But don't kick the new lvl 60 just because they are trying to get their gear.....like we all had to do!

zelinktheone3

Anyone kicking anyone just because they think a class is bad as a whole, are mentally ill. Of course, people will give classes bad rep, but that has nothing to do with the class itself.

People do farm PK for chances at Greater Marks, but I know multiple rogues that will go to PK during Delves for that easy salvage game. Not to mention, if we're talking about being kicked when the TR enters the dungeon, it's 100% more likely to be because of the salvage rogue drops than the Greater Marks. This is why I mentioned it, well that, and the fact that people don't even realize that still.

And of course I agree. People at that gearscore are more than likely trying to actually get their gear or even just start working on their ad gain. The only thing that truly bothers me in T2s is people who have to pick up every single green item in the dungeon. At that point in the game, you're going for your epic pieces, aka good gear, not garbage pickups.