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gogu79gogu79 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
There is over 4 milions ZEN for sale why exchange AD to ZEN dont made in real time ? why should wait 1 week or more to get some zen?
If u go to shop something u dont pay and wait 1 week to get what u payed for
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  • gogu79gogu79 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    its not our problem if ppl want to sell to us zen this ppl buy this zen with real money and if they want to sell zen for ad its his choice
    if criptic is so scary to dont do profit with vip should sell vip as pack how its feywild pack
    Dragons? On MY Way !!
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  • gogu79gogu79 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    what u see is sell zen go to NW gateway and select buy and sell zen and u will see:)

    Dragons? On MY Way !!
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  • gogu79gogu79 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    this is ofer for price dont for buy zen its about value
    Dragons? On MY Way !!
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    gogu79 wrote: »
    what u see is sell zen go to NW gateway and select buy and sell zen and u will see:)

    You are mistaken. There are people already waiting to buy 4 million ZEN.

    Take a closer look and try to understand what the quantities on the buy and sell page mean. If you are Buy-ing, then you see what sellers are offering. And if you are Sell-ing, then you see what buyer are bidding.
  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    From a business stand point it makes perfect sense really....

    People on average are not patient. So by backlogging the ad to zen market they make more money in the long run.

    People who do not want to wait 1-2 weeks for their zen will run out and buy zen to use. These people will NOT help the situation because they will not be selling their zen.

    I would not be surprised if it was not Cryptic that created the 500ad to zen backlog just to make money...

    I know a few people that have already bought zen instead of waiting for it which is EXACTLY what Cryptic wants.
  • darkstarcrashdarkstarcrash Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    The AD-Zen exchange is totally player-driven.

    If people buying zen for money are using it for zen purchases, rather than turning it into AD -- which is true right now, with the VIP program being so popular -- then there will be a backlog of requests for zen.

    You can either make a request at 500 AD/zen and wait a week or so -- or buy zen with money yourself.
  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    In the Zen Exchange what you see are not people wanting to "buy" Zen. What you see are people wanting to *TRADE* Astral Diamonds for Zen. Trading your AD for Zen is not "BUYING" the Zen, it is trading for it. The other player is giving you Zen for your AD (and vice-versa).

    You BUY ZEN you must use a credit card or PayPal or some such other cash purchase. That is the only way you can BUY ZEN. When your TRADE ZEN you are not giving anything to the game studio, it is 100% trade between players.

    Therefor it is the PLAYERS who must decide they want top TRADE ZEN for AD.

    Right now there are more players with AD who want to TRADE AD for ZEN and not enough players with Zen who want to TRADE for AD. That means when you dump a bunch of AD into the exchange it goes into a pot in the same order, meaning the first in is the first out and so one. The reason there is a long wait is because you are WAITING ON OTHER PLAYERS to TRADE WITH YOU.

    Get it? Good.
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    Just be happy there's a cap for exchange, else it would be a lot higher like in RIFT where 1 REX use to cost even 2k+ plat.
  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    Well gee, that's just what people are willing to spend RL dollars wise. What's the problem~

    Aside from the problems that I've said in other threads, where having the artificially low ceiling on zen prices means that you main retain some players that you otherwise wouldn't, which then affects how much people are willing to spend on zen in the first place.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,047 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    quspiv wrote: »
    Just be happy there's a cap for exchange, else it would be a lot higher like in RIFT where 1 REX use to cost even 2k+ plat.
    REX is closer to 3k+ plat. on the EU servers...

    On topic,
    the exchange is just working fine, you wait a few days and get ZEN for AD, what is there to cry about?
    You want your ZEN faster?
    Well, then buy it with real money through the ARC webpage, get some bonus ZEN and if it's your first ZEN purchase even a first timer buyer pack on top.

    Got today 2k ZEN after 4 days, will get another 4k ZEN after probably 5 days waiting, and then i'm going to buy the 6 months VIP pack with it.
    Not much to complain about it here... i have seen waiting times around 2 weeks and even more, 3-5 days are a joke compared to that.
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  • mynaammynaam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Wasn't the blocking of Leadership on the gateway supposed to improve the wait time? I added some ad on the exchange before the anouncement of the VIP system and it only came through yesterday... that is more than a week.
    There are more than BIS players in this game
    RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
    FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
    Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)



  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    The current real price of Zen:AD is over 1:900 - judging from most wanted Zen only items sold on AH. I dont know how much more, since VIP packs are probably the most wanted items and cant be sold on AH, if I remember well.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    wentris wrote: »
    The current real price of Zen:AD is over 1:900 - judging from most wanted Zen only items sold on AH. I dont know how much more, since VIP packs are probably the most wanted items and cant be sold on AH, if I remember well.

    allowing sell of z store items on ah is main reason for caped exchange as long is allowed price will reach what ever cap
    u put since resellers whill choke exchange
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    From a business stand point it makes perfect sense really....

    People on average are not patient. So by backlogging the ad to zen market they make more money in the long run.

    People who do not want to wait 1-2 weeks for their zen will run out and buy zen to use. These people will NOT help the situation because they will not be selling their zen.

    I would not be surprised if it was not Cryptic that created the 500ad to zen backlog just to make money...

    I know a few people that have already bought zen instead of waiting for it which is EXACTLY what Cryptic wants.

    Short term yes. Long term I think it hurts them as players that might look at having to wait for respecs or pay money decide to leave. Then again sometimes I think short term gains are the core of the f2p model. There is a lot that I don't agree with in it.
    warpet wrote: »
    wentris wrote: »
    The current real price of Zen:AD is over 1:900 - judging from most wanted Zen only items sold on AH. I dont know how much more, since VIP packs are probably the most wanted items and cant be sold on AH, if I remember well.

    allowing sell of z store items on ah is main reason for caped exchange as long is allowed price will reach what ever cap
    u put since resellers whill choke exchange

    This is why the entire zen shop needs to be bound to character. Except for what is already bound to account that is.

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  • nathanjmnathanjm Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    This is why the entire zen shop needs to be bound to character. Except for what is already bound to account that is.

    Please, NO. Bound to account is the only sane restriction, except for armor/weapons that have been worn. I already get too much character-bound items (invoking bags, and everything from therein, including coupons) that eat up a lot more space that I'd prefer to put in shared bank space. But, if I get a coupon for "% off <CATEGORY>", e.g. companion, dye pack, or the like, I'd like to use what I got for any character, usually my main. So far, I've bought many items -- because I have the coupon -- and transferred them to another toon of mine. What you propose would eliminate that, and I don't see any good reason to do so.

    If you're worried about Zen store items being resold for (AD) profit, I would much rather see a second tier of prices for things. Keep prices where they are for completely unbound items. And add some things at a lower price that allow for account-wide unlocks, but not tradeable with other players. This would work like the mounts -- I bought one, and have claimed it for all toons. I'd love companions to be able to be bought in a similar account-bound fashion, where all of my characters could claim them. Alternatively, a coupon so that if you bought a companion and are using it, you can purchase (say 500 Zen) an account-wide unlock of that companion that's not tradeable. With such a change, I'd buy more. If it's only for one character, I focus on my main, and my main only.

    My Zen is not bound to character. It's bound to account. Items bought with Zen should have -- at most -- the same restriction.
  • relkindxrelkindx Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    Yeah, clearly the OP doesn't understand what he is looking at.

    The leadership change just spooked everyone into thinking that the AD to Zen ration would drop. Everyone sold their zen as fast as possible, so the backlog dropped back to 0. They've been sitting on that AD for awhile now. When then VIP announcement came, it zoomed from 300K up to 3 million. Once Mod 7 hit, it went up to 4 million. People want to buy the VIP package, and they want to buy stronghold related zen items. However, they don't actually want to use real money, hence the large back log. The exchange is working as it should. Lots of people have AD, they want ZEN and not enough people are putting ZEN into the game and trading it for AD.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,406 Arc User
    A few million backlog is normal. Probably, 11 months out of 12 is like that.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,047 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    ... and a 2x RP weekend event will eat that backlog withing a day.
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/1199393/build-the-community-stronghold-rewards-for-all

    Much ado about nothing.
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
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    Because it sends a message!
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