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Please remove these quests from Strongholds.

drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
There is a daily quest to kill Tiamat and a daily quest to run t1 DDs.

Unless they are all fixed to remove ALL of the lagging I do not think it is a smart thing to require these to be completed.

- Considering that every run for Tiamat that I have entered has lagged HORRIBLY... to the point of failing 90% of the times I have tried. I stopped trying... as have a ton of other players.
- I have completed MC once since the release of M6... and that was due to a bug with my companion that was reported following the run. Every time I have entered it since then... was stopped short due to the extreme amount of lag.
- I have not completed VT once since the release of M6... despite having entered and attempted it a large number of times. Every one of them failed about half way through due to the excessive amounts of lag.

Require this to further the rank of the Guild Stronghold... is not fair to any of us... UNLESS YOU FIX THIS LAG ISSUE. Which coincidentally will NOT be completed or attempted while it is on preview. I saw 2 other players when I was on the preview server yesterday
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  • obsidiancran3obsidiancran3 Member Posts: 1,823 Arc User
    Just to give some more feedback

    With a large active group of players on Legit I see LoL, KR, Shores, VT and eToS runs done regularly and succeed more than fail (though ToS can be hit and miss). That says a lot about the state of the other dungeons. Teams that can run VT 2x in an hour don't enter MC. Teams that are readily completing eToS don't bother with eCC (end boss is the issue) and I haven't even managed to go into eGWD, its done so little.

    I've done Tiamat 2x since mod 6; its a lot of messing around to try and get in an instance with a hope of wining. A single Devotion OP running the right Justice build and the lag starts (reported weeks ago in the bug forum), stick a few more OPs and a collection of HRs and SWs and it quickly ramps up. Put 2 Devotion OPs with Justice in and its worse. I got lucky on one of my runs, on the other I lagged so hard I would run off cliffs...

    I really like the idea of these quests, but until the dungeons are viable they will be pointless as they stand.
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    I can scarcely run from the campfire to Shatterspine in half an hour due to lag...
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  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    tiamat is a fail and should be flushed down where it belongs, no point kicking a dead horse(or 5headed mutant lizard), forcing ppl to suffer through that lagfest along with some randoms is unreasonable

    t1 are easy as a pie, its a guild quest and any guild should be able to run them
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    So we are all in agreement. If anyone besides Strumslinger played the game they would know that this requirement will never be completed no matter what the incentive is to finish.

    This is why we have been telling you to fix ALL of the bugs before SH comes out... so WE, all of us including Cryptic, can have an incredible release of the SH Mod. Anything less is setting Cryptic up for failure...

    As much as I want the old DDs back... I would rather have the existing ones, the ones that have been ignored for 2+ months, fixed. So we can run existing content with the confidence that we had during the height of M5.
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    tiamat is a fail and should be flushed down where it belongs, no point kicking a dead horse(or 5headed mutant lizard), forcing ppl to suffer through that lagfest along with some randoms is unreasonable

    t1 are easy as a pie, its a guild quest and any guild should be able to run them

    CA, until lately, has been a "run together or don't run at all" guild. I say until lately... many people are not wanting to enter as a group... to fail because of the lag. It has been a long time since any of us have been able to finish MC. In fact I think I was part of the ONLY party that finished... from ll the guild runs. a few of our runs have made it to Valindra, but could not overcome the lag.

    We run what is manageable by all of our members. Shores, KR, eLoL and eCC.

    Also... having a guild requirement to take down Tiamat and to NOT ALLOW us to enter all as one group... is setting us all up for failure. I have run Tia 4 times since M6 hit... I have failed in each one... DUE TO LAG... and inexperience. I choose to never set myself up for failure. Some content is doable at all times... most is not even doable 50% of the time.
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    I don't understand why the epic dungeons lag so much... there's only 5 people per instance...

    Regardless.. VT is completely unplayable for my guild. Some of us have managed to finish eLoL. MC is unplayable.

    All the 3-person dungeons run great.

    So again.. why are the epics lagging so badly?
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    I have a feeling that it may be latent residue from bugged boons, powers or feats... that sits in the instances. Most of the lag happens in the combat areas.

    Just like that CW spell that would leave residual marks in the instances... that they admitted was damaging the servers.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Meh,
    I look at them as Optional Missions. I think it should be a Choose your own T1, and A choose your own T2 Mission instead though...
    Taking the Tiamat Mission should allow you to Join a Special Guild Queue.
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    Exactly... I just took a lot more words to express that. Like a DD and Skirmish run instead.
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  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    I agree with the choose any idea. Make quests for Skirmishes, Normal/T1/T2 DDs (lets remember here, not everyone that's in a guild is level 70!) but let us choose our own rather than force us into a specific one.

    I personally loath Tiamat as a thing overall. It's one of those things that sounds really awesome on paper and in storyboards, looks cool visually, but in practice is an absolutely failure - pretty much like the whole Gauntlgrym even was. The solution is full on private queues done the way it's done in STO where we have a private lobby and can assemble our own teams for any of the queuable content, including forming both teams in PvP matchs. I'd be fine if privately queued pvp matches don't count toward the Leaderboards or NCL.

    Baring that, the whole Tiamat event should be flushed just like GG was.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    Ugh... the Old GG... that was cringe-worthy at best.
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  • obsidiancran3obsidiancran3 Member Posts: 1,823 Arc User
    Actually the sub-70 character gets a generic quest that once accepted asks for the highest level normal dungeon you can do (it seems). Being its impossible to get into these dungeons without sufficient guildies on and my odd time zone I haven't been able to test if it must be that dungeon.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Well considering that besides my guildies... I have seen a total of 10 other players... out and about. Most of them were from the Legit Channel. Running anything but the area PvE and DR/Shar/IWD/WoD... is impossible, due to the lack of numbers.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    You plug into your cable or dsl, well... router? I do have an extra ethernet cable...
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  • osterdracheosterdrache Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    Maybe a game change token in the ZEN market?
    Currently developing a new game would be easier than to repair the pile of shi… that is called Neverwinter :blush:
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    Maybe a game change token in the ZEN market?
    Currently developing a new game would be easier than to repair the pile of shi… that is called Neverwinter :blush:

    /me Waits with baited breath
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  • obsidiancran3obsidiancran3 Member Posts: 1,823 Arc User
    Just in case you missed it Atwil, the Missions thread has a dev comment that Tiamat mission is being removed. :)
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    Cool... I had not seen that yet.
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