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solbergx
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Hi i just met the requirement of total item level 1600, i tried loustmauth but i died by 1 hit
So wich dungeon can i do:
Epic lair of Loustmauth
Malagobs castle
Validras tower
Skirmishes?
Kessels Retreat
The Shores of Tuern Epic
class: CW spellstorm renegade
I got 2700 defense
power 6.466
critical 2.566
armor penetration 2000
So wich dungeon can i do:
Epic lair of Loustmauth
Malagobs castle
Validras tower
Skirmishes?
Kessels Retreat
The Shores of Tuern Epic
class: CW spellstorm renegade
I got 2700 defense
power 6.466
critical 2.566
armor penetration 2000
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hp stat is the most useful defensive stat.
arp is the most useful offensive stat (up to 40%)
once you garner 40% , then power.
That is for like EVERY toon. there is not much variance this mod. Deflect is ok, but you cant have 100% deflect and trying to eek out 5% more deflect on a toon with no class features, bonuses for it, isnt worth it. Best not to get hit at all and stack more hp.
If you join legit you can skip the gear score issue, but please realize, having 1600, isnt going to help out in some places. Esot is still harder then most of the other t1s at the final phase as the boss can 1 hit all toons and you need a good tank/healer or at least 5 really good dps to overcome it.
Kessells is your best bet(the hardest issues are the riders in kessels as they can 1 shot at range, the rest of it is easy), but frankly a good group in elol can carry you as well, elol to me is the easiest t1 there is, val is next and mal is still a lag fest, so I avoid it.
Do you have all of your sharandar and dread ring boons? If not that is the most important thing to work on daily.
I could see being able to finish it with all 2k+ ilvl and minimal lag.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
Place a higher standard so you would have a chance to actually win with a queued party
Still have never won one
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eh...no. Enough " high standards " is placed already.
If we continue like this no one will be able to do anything, pretty soon.
On a side note, tia higher standards was logical.
i think enough content is + 1600 and plus 2k .
Get a guild. That might help.
Sounds epic... as in "Epic Dungeon."
Seems spot on to me.
1,600 is around lv65 blues, rank5 enchants, blue-refined gear from previous-mods and maybe two or three greenies here and there. Better than casual players, but frankly not very epic at all. The max BiS crowd easily goes over 4k IL, usually up to 4.5~4.8k.
IMO at the very least you should be aiming at 2.0~2.5k IL if you want to be in "epic" dungeons.
Well... lets see...
3 purple artifacts + greater imperial c. and greater imperial belt on blue.
Main elemental artifact weapon purple, off hand artifact weapon blue.
Helm and armor t1 and gauntlets and boots t2. With rank8 ench : 2620 gs
But ! You get ot 70 : buy blue gear on ah , enough to go elol, you get your t1 and you ll be up there on 1800/2000 k in no time.
The problem isn't special attacks coming from trash mobs, it is their NORMAL ones. They can hit for up to 150k and those attacks arent telegraphed with red circles, you just don't see it coming and you die.
Team must work together and pretty much what groups have to do is this:
DC/OP--->provide protection at the start of the fight, in the form of immunities to damage or huge mitigation like, for example, empowered astral shield for DC, and heal if someone's HPs drop. And buff/ debuff.
CW/HR/TR---> deploy CC zones, stun, daze and control at the start of the fight
GWF/ other DPS--->clear mobs before CC and protections are down to minimize the risk.
The longer the enemies are up, the harder it gets and the higher are the chances for someone to get randomly oneshotted.
So basically, for example, you ideally get to a mob group--->EAS or other immunity protection+ icy terrain/ smoke bomb/roots deployed, DPS mobs down while you are immune/ they are CCed and pretty much that's it.
DCs/OPs must know what they are doing, same CC toons and DPS toons, and the group must coordinate a bit.
You do this, you are fine. You don't, you can go with 5k iLvL and still die cause no amount of items saves you from epic dungeon mobs now.
It's all about do not let them attack, or be immune when they do, and just have enough HP to do not get 1-shotted by weaker hits (oneshot hits will oneshot you at 90-100k HP no matter, but going up above 80k HP helps you to do not die from "normal" damage). And that's all.
I guess what you could do in t1 is go very defensive. I got into an lfg group last night that was 2 cw 1 gf 1 op 1 dc. We cleared etos handily enough, the composition was the defensive classes idea because they were 3 guildies and its what they like to do though I would have preferred another dps to 2 tanks but it was fine. Its probably easier to run a comp like that in t1 because the mobs and bosses don't really heal themselves as far as I can recall. Maybe some of the lol mobs drink a pot.
...which, IMO, again, is befitting of 'epic' dungeons. The sequences as described above by pando are actually what happens all the time with players in other MMOGs when they form parties to do 'epic' or 'heroic' content.
Mobs can actually kill you if your team isn't prepared? When you draw aggro at the wrong timing? You don't have proper support classes? Your main "trinity" is weak? Like... are we supposed to be surprised by this? :rolleyes:
I still remember the days of old-school MMOGs like WoW. Even PuG level parties and its members had a clear idea on the concept of cooperation and coordination, which mobs to CC first, which to keep smacking on the head to keep dazed. how to lure away which to where and then at what timing the DPS guys open up without drawing too much aggro, where the heal priest should be standing. This was like 10 years ago.
I've already mentioned multiple times how disappointed I was with the PvE content of NW in that its so easy, that any 5 players of whatever composition can clear any 'normal' dungeons... and still we would have the majority of players suffering team wipes and quest failures.
Let's face it. The general PvE populace really had it so easy for so long, that they are now only re-learning what players of other games have been doing all along.
If I wanted to play WoW, I'd be playing WoW.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
If that would be fixed all is fine.
The bug is that the defence stat should be reducing incoming damage, instead the amount of reduce will be added to damage. Thats why every tanky class with higher defence will be oneshottet by trash mobs. so you need acutal CC in every form to complete T2 dungeons.
If you use ingame combat self channel you will see damage is higher than that the mob is doing.
The value in brackets (damage outgoing from mob) is lower than damage you get (value with no brackets).
You notice more of this bug if your defense stat is high.
And this only happens in all new M6 content maps. Not on any previos content or pvp map.
This bug is reported several times but no responce from devs so far.
Hope that this will be fixed soon.
Don't expect that every team member has done the dungeon already 50 times.
There are always some people that haven't done it yet or did it in a complete different way and need a hint how to behave.
So watch your team and if somebody is not doing the usual things, talk with him and explain the special cases and how to avoid problems.
Small hints like "kill the archers first", "protect the cleric". "please wait here, we skip the next room", "6-9 means: ... ", etc can protect you from a total party wipe.
I normally do all my dungeon runs with a random party from the Que, and finish my dungeons.
Look - you could put on all the wrong gear, exceed the minimum iLevel and still get one-shot.
Get some lvl 70 blues off the AH and get some more HP, and please try again. I suggest running Kessel's until you get most of your T1 gear, and then move on to the others after you have over, I dunno, 70K HP.
And finally, learn to dodge.
Actually, what might help would be an added tier of dungeons and skirmishes with something like 1200+ ilvl required, to carry you over to 2k+ which is what the 1600+ ones are really looking for.
The mobs mostly hit like wet noodles, and move slower than mobs in T2s.
Gives good practice for mobility & setting out your DPS/CC chain and not getting hit.
It is possible to complete DL without getting hit a single time, and can just about do the same with MOTH.
Once you can put out a good attack chain while taking minimal/no hits, you will be in a much better position to at least attempt T1s.