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To run ahead or not to: Pro's,Con's, Experience, and Opinions.
zickyjacks
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So for almost a week now people having been running the HE's in IWP/DV. You have one giant zerg group farming each one. But almost 2 days after people starting running ahead of the zerg group. I tried running with them and I noticed it's more stress/less rewarding at times depending. I've also ran with the zerg group too and noticed that you can really mess out on rewards; I.E. Only getting 25 black ice from getting Aquamarines and Peridots.
So what does everyone else think? Is it good, bad? My opinion it seems kinda harmful in some cases. If you keep running ahead after a while people are going to follow. Example of this is when you have to defend the horses. People run ahead after doing initial damage. There is such a gap between the two groups that the horses die and no one gets anything.
Now lag is an issue. I was even subject to it but I still got in some damage and was still able to walk away from each HE, lag or not, with the max amount of rewards I could get.
So what gives?
So what does everyone else think? Is it good, bad? My opinion it seems kinda harmful in some cases. If you keep running ahead after a while people are going to follow. Example of this is when you have to defend the horses. People run ahead after doing initial damage. There is such a gap between the two groups that the horses die and no one gets anything.
Now lag is an issue. I was even subject to it but I still got in some damage and was still able to walk away from each HE, lag or not, with the max amount of rewards I could get.
So what gives?
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Now granted that might be the one area a Stormwarden archer has an advantage, since we're all AoE DPS. I also activate my emblem of the Seldarine for a big time AoE heal-on-hit buff, so getting the opportunity to really let fly with my dps and do a fair amount of healing might be how I'm getting there. I haven't tried with my tank GF yet, but I will today at some point and I'll post what I find out here.
Single riders or smaller groups is the better way. Each group of 5 (or in my case 1) does one round on a heroic then moves on (Plenty for a great success). It's great riding up to find a totem 1 round from done. I finish it and, "Great success". All these people in huge groups are fooling themselves. Only the highest DPS of the group gets the best rewards. The scrubs get the black ice. If they separated and each group did one round, they would all get great success. Most times I skip the larger heroics. I can complete several smaller ones in the same time and end up with more/better rewards.
However, on the long run this isn't sustainable and the devs will probably nerf minor HE's reward and move them to major and epics. At least that's how i see it happening. Even if it's to appease the drama and all the people who complain in zone - after all unhappy players aren't good for a game.
its evolving into more and more players are ahead to synergy collapse ...
To quote myself:
Do you really think 20 people on a 5 man heroic is heroic or intended? It's abusing a gift we've been given and WILL result in a substantial nerf.
I have to say that the running ahead can be helpful and harmful. Helpful in the sense that you don't encounter lag, and a list of other benefits.
At the same time I have to agree that it messes up. The only thing I worry about is that more people are going to do it. Like one group will run ahead of another, and so on so forth to the point nothing gets done. Then you're back at square one.
so tell cryptic let us move to least populated instance directly
I think you might be taking what I meant as a helpful suggestion as criticism.
I'm not saying anything's wrong with running HE's with a healer, unless someone is having problems getting drops. The point of my post was that if he/she had a more damage oriented character, it might be easier to just get the drops with that dps'er and transfer them to his/her healer via the bank. By all means run with a healer if it's working for you. If not, try something else.
Lead group finished the first group of mob. The 2nd group arrived when the 2nd mod just added to finish the job. It was like one minute per HE including riding time. The slower riders and weaker players can also get their rewards.
If everybody jam into one huge group, think about the lag.
It is slower, I get less aquamarines per hour when there are multiple groups running around.
Same here. Today I saw four groups doing that. Nothing got done.
And with the rumor going around about them nerfing the drop rate, running races are going to increase. Then you're going to have nothing but stand stills. Also this could cause the market to go up slightly.
On another note I wonder who's using this nice RP grab to up there Artifact Weps/Offhands/belts/necks. Right now I'm just sitting on it.
Yeah for other classes like Pal, DC,GF they get starved of RP when groups split up. For CW's like myself I just use Ice Storm. Doesn't bounce the mobs back and I hit everything. Great Success all the way around and people still get Aquas. It's my answer to the whole race to be first.
yeah i only have 1 piece of artifact gear left to get to legendary so im leveling that up then everything else i farm is getting saved until 2xrp , i really hope that they dont nerf the hes this week due to all the self centred whiners
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
I'm hoping for the same thing. But I'm already hearing people spread rumors about a nerf. From what I hear they are going to nerf the drop rate or limit the HE's. So like 1000 rp for small ones or something to that effect.
Btw any hear about how people are saying rushing ahead now is an exploit ? Don't get me wrong. I do disagree with the action. But I fail to see how it's an exploit. It's almost as bad as people saying nerf HE's because it's too much rp. Wha?!?!!!?!
If they do nerf it I want it to be known on the record it's the communities undoing. Not all but some. Grant it these past mods from 4-6 have been crazy. But there seems to be a warped idea of what's going wrong and right with the game. It's like those old 1950s drug scar commercials.
Good question.
1) Ignore anybody spreading rumours about a nerf ,until a developer says something or until the preview patch this week when any changes can be tested nobody knows anything.
2)Running ahead isn't an exploit ,it is annoying when they don't bother killing the mobs and they drag them halfway across the map so everybody else has to wait but it certainly isn't an exploit.
If they allow this to continue forever, nobody will buy Blood Ruby. You can get as much RP in 5 circles.
When this hurt their bottom line, they will do something.