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vattara
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OK I am patiently waiting for the devs to revisit MOD 6 as stated in their blog
I try not to think about my poor Dragon Hoard enchantments and their current poor return on investment
I've resigned myself to forgo solo play in areas that I could manage before
But with the Heralds........... there is nothing I can adjust from my side to counteract the "One shot wonders"
who ruin the Herald run for the other 39 players.
Changing instances is not the solution as the imposed transfer cool down and time required to visually inspect every other player doesn't allow for it.
I know that the devs are "aware" of this issue but can we please have a concrete time for when this issue will be fixed and not just acknowledged? Thank you
I try not to think about my poor Dragon Hoard enchantments and their current poor return on investment
I've resigned myself to forgo solo play in areas that I could manage before
But with the Heralds........... there is nothing I can adjust from my side to counteract the "One shot wonders"
who ruin the Herald run for the other 39 players.
Changing instances is not the solution as the imposed transfer cool down and time required to visually inspect every other player doesn't allow for it.
I know that the devs are "aware" of this issue but can we please have a concrete time for when this issue will be fixed and not just acknowledged? Thank you
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As someone who writes software for a living, I've been idly pondering how a bug like this even comes about, since it apparently is new to the game since Mod 6. I can't help but think that they've made some sort of underlying architectural change in mod 6. The rank 30 power of the companion does two things: it lowers the attack cooldown time and increases the damage of each attack. It's almost as if something like getSummonedCompanion().applyActiveBonus() is being called every tick instead of only once. I wonder if all companions got some sort of new onTick() routine in mod 6 that gets called every tick.
To me this is worrisome, since theoretically there could be bugs that affect several companions in different ways. On the one hand, there is probably a way to quickly fix the Jagged Dancing Blade, but they would also have to check every other companion for problems (though I doubt that there would be any problems for companions that have simple stat bonuses).
Anyhow for those people who are wondering, that's what makes this companion bug so bizarre: it's entirely passive and depends only on how long the companion remains alive (I presume that summoning or reviving it results in a call to something like player.getSummonedCompanion().initStats() or somesuch). The fact that its damage is continually changing over time is REALLY bizarre, as if its applyActiveBonus() routine is doing something like setDamage(getDamage() * 1.1) and is being called every tick.
This is another reason to have extremely rigorous testing whenever there is a fundamental architectural change: unintended bugs are all but a certainty.
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Whats pretty simple is this.. these players should be perma banned for doing this. THIS would result in people not doing things like this.
Done.
They're working on it...gj folks, few weeks passed and it's still live.
Congratz to the whole team, bravo.
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+ infinity.
But then the past actions of Cryptic tell us this will never ever happen. They don't give a rat's 4SS about anything other than money and banning people means less money so once again the exploiters win. Becoming more and more like ExploitWINter with each passing day. I'm getting fed up...
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1 - Soul forged bug when you have revive sickness. Simple fix, the code block that gives player damage should only ever be called when a player respawns at a campfire. This would eliminate those double or triple wound situations where you are revived by soul forged when you have revive sickness.
Watch out folks, we have an exploiter right here!
Btw this topic will most likely get locked, cause you aint allowed to post negative stuff about this game..
I opens thread here myself that talk in general about action against those game breaking bugs exploits like this
Keep those 2 threads up .. The representative of this game really need to address this with us the community and fight it together
if we want this game will still be relevant .. And why we wouldn't ? It's fun game amazing combat system for me at least
huge potential still .. Let's just clean those things and it's the start we need ..the devs need to further address others issue as well but:
This is the most pressing one ! We all need to realize that !
That's naive blaming I'm sorry
For me it's excuses
even the game was easy as hell I promise u the amount of exploiters would not go down drastically just by that reason only , because they will always search the easiest illegal way , no matter what
No no the things who can remove them is better commitment to fight them as devs and as community
Our part - pressing them to the corner , they are not welcome in any party
Report them , put pressure on fixing things faster when they discover
That's our part
Not sit back and just blame other things
Yea, I completely agree. They need to ban these people, they need to have a low tolerance for this kind of abuse. But I know nothing will happen. They will simply be this months new winners.
Yes, clearly me wanting the issue to be fixed as a priority instead of doing nothing and banning those for their own negligence makes me an exploiter. Congrats sherlock. Too bad I have neither of the items that can one shot (though I was tempted to combine my 8 lessers to make a trans feytouched over 2x rp incase the self debuff was fixed. If you actually support minimal damage, you'd support quicker reaction times too.
Personally I've done the heralds once (killed just 1 drake) and tiamat once too (lost) since mod 6. So yeah, you might want to steer clear of baseless accusations in future.
If you want it under control, you do it from the get go and fix the big issues as a priority. You don't just accept exploiting doing minor attempts every now and then and then punish those using passive bugs to their advantage after years of acting differently. I abused spell twisting (because it was a good feat, not because it was bugged which I didn't know at the time). Others abused ap generation too, should they be banned. They did have smaller effects, but they still had an impact, but were something that was just part of the build.
The difference between something like this and something like eCC exploiting is that eCC isn't something you can accidentally do. Yet if you ban those, then you ban a really sizable chunk of they playerbase, and that is because since the start of the game, exploiting has been acceptable with no consequence. Any reputable company would have hotfixed this already. Blame the exploiters all you want, but people will always exploit and you'd be avoiding the real issue which is that bugs go ignored for too long.
They do it on purpose if you ask me. To me this jagged blade situation is a cheat, not a bug. A bug is an error, a cheat is something wanted by those who coded the game.
First, even though it renders the Heralds content mostly unplayable, that's not so bad compared to the huge amount of content that has been unplayable because it was completely removed from the game.
Second, even though exploiters and cheaters are benefiting immensely from this, the economy has always been heavily based around botters anyway, so this probably won't upset anything.
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