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bakaslam
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Hello guys..
Could any of you suggest me a build for my TR pvp based?
Thank you!
Could any of you suggest me a build for my TR pvp based?
Thank you!
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weapon artifact with cos dmg boost
cleric artifact (at least legendary )
and use lurker assault daily
basically thats it
+ Shadowy Opportunity feat.
+ Lostmauth set (not a must but will improve your damage a lot)
P.S.
+ Resilience, since you will be hated and mocked by a potatoing crew
who cares they are hypocrites. other class are just as broken. broken vs broken = fair. just dont abuse it vs pugs. thats on u
~ Adam | Trickster Rogue | Master Infiltrator Saboteur
~ Essence | Hunter Ranger | Pathfinder Trapper
~ Veyl | Scourge Warlock | Soulbinder Fury
~ Abel | Trickster Rogue | Master Infiltrator Executioner
Waiting for DRUID and MONK!
MI/Saboteuer: if you want easy mode. Defense? DR? Deflect? Who cares. Just throw CoS with permastealth and none of that matters.
WK/Saboteuer: if you want easy mode, but want to make an excuse when someone tells you its easy mode
MI/Exec: if you want generally easy management but with some limitations to your attacks, so it's not totally easy like Sabos
WK/Exec: if you want quite well balanced TR - moderate damage, moderate defense, a lot of smart combat management required
any Scoundrel: if you're feeling masochistic, and need to prove the other guy totally sucks, since he's beaten by a Scoundrel that has no defense, no offense, no CC, with a lot of deflection/resistance gimmicks that don't actually help you at all in combat
Tell us which you want to be, then we'll deliver.
Stereotyping entire base combos like this is inaccurate and misleading. No general paragon/feat combination is "easy mode", there is always variations though scoundrel is often at a disadvantage when compared to the other feat trees now.
PVP Rogue,
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Main Character: Hurricane Marigolds (Rogue WK & Assassin)
Ingame Handle: trgluestickz
Discord Name: Hurricane🌀Marigolds#2563
Guilds: She Looked LVL 18 & Essence of Aggression
Alliances: Imperium & Order of the Silent Shroud
Platform: PC
In order for me to suggest a good build for you, I need you to narrow it down. Some questions to consider are:
How would you describe your general play style?
Do you like to be a cookie cutter can kill in one shot often kind of rogue where you can cut giant swaths out of health gages with a single attack?
Do you want to keep up a stream of consistent high damage and wear your opponent down a little slower instead of a couple giant attacks?
Do you want to be able to do both?
Are you looking for a more defensive build with more deflect or/and hp than normal at the expense of some damage?
Do you want to do extremely high damage and have decent defenses?
Do you want to have a nearly indestructible tanky build at the expense of most damage?
Do you want to be a pure glass cannon where you have extremely high damage and low defenses?
Are you looking to fight out in the open with less stealth than is normal of most rogues?
Are you looking to be in stealth indefinitely or really close to it like the permastealth rogues?
Are you looking for something that is in stealth a lot but is not totally reliant on it?
Do you want mostly high damage melee powers and more control effects?
Do you want mostly ranged powers, not need as many ccs, and have more stealth refills, at the expense of some damage per strike?
Do you want some combination of both?
PVP Rogue,
--[----- "Your friendly neighborhood spawn of Satan." -----]--
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Main Character: Hurricane Marigolds (Rogue WK & Assassin)
Ingame Handle: trgluestickz
Discord Name: Hurricane🌀Marigolds#2563
Guilds: She Looked LVL 18 & Essence of Aggression
Alliances: Imperium & Order of the Silent Shroud
Platform: PC
It is inaccurate and misleading only when it is inaccurate and misleading.
The fact of the matter is that there is always an easy mode. No, taking the 'hard mode' isn't more 'noble', or 'honorable' or 'superior' in anyway. It's just preference. However, aside from linking personal qualities to what path he plays, there is always a path of least resistance in terms of gameplay (particularly in PvP), and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out which is which.
Is it easier to just press down single button to proc huge bonus damage, ignore damage resistance, ignore dodges and land hits anyways, or is it easier to throw the same attacks that hit for less than half the damage, that gets cut off by damage resistance and dodges?
Is it easier to have to time your every move according to whether your opponent has used his main CC power and attacks, or is it easier to just don't give a shi* and simply press a button that offers you freebie CC immunity+auto dodges?
Is it easier to have 2~3 methods of instantly regaining full stealth meter with a press of a button, or is it easier to have none of those and purely depend on your own defensive timing and reflexes to gain a chance to go back to stealth?
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There is an easy mode, and then there is the hard mode. Don't deny this.
Just go MI Sabo, get Shadowy Opportunity and One with the Shadows. That's the well-agreed cheese-potato-sugar-on-top roll-like-a-hamster mode. Do it not because you want to win all the time, or rekt poor pugs. No, do it because other classes are just as broken. Every premade you'll run into would be using shield tabbing, repel spamming CW, tickling but perma rooting HR, immortal DC and SW, one shot pally, one rotation GWF GF. And you're gonna want to cry they are broken... well pal you're the most broken class of all, just go with it
On the matter of 'noble' and 'honorable' its really easy to tell if your opponent is a legit pug or an exploiting mothertrucker. If you wanna fight fair, don't press tab, don't press CoS. They're pug, you gonna roflstomp 'em anyway.
You are correct and I will return my WK to sabo and destroy everyone
Right. And that is just the long way of saying that if you want to compete against optimized characters, you need to be optimized yourself.
If you're having problems with a SW, you're either 1v1'ing Misery or you're just bad.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Excuse you? LOL learn to read please.
PS: Let me use small words for your dumb little brain.
And for someone with smarter brain capacity, here is the original quote.
God, I love it when some forum smartass troll nitpicks my posts and spin their own story into it. Makes my day every time.
I just noticed Xuna in your sig actually has a face.
I think it might be a fake portrait!
Xuna is my favorite NPC in the game, which is one reason I hate the potato crusade.
Take no for an answer bro. Can't serve builds on a silver platter anymore--Cryptic screwed up big time. I, for one, am not writing another 3000-word document because it's just going to be suboptimal. I'd rather not waste my time, this time. See anyone writing any big builds lately? Yeah, my point exactly. Couple old mates here morenthar and mirrors like to roll WK, honestly they could just pull it off 'cause they been playing it a long time they really good at it by now. You coming into that raw, your chances are dull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJge-5pqDsc
Its not easy to give information when somebody just asks it like that. That's basically the equivalent of asking someone, "Hi! What is the meaning of life?" Are we supposed to write an encyclopedia or something to have that question answered? I When somebody ask questions in that manner, all we can give them is "42".
I do understand its an innocent question, with good intentions and genuine curiosity, but its also baffling and quite inappropriate IMO. We can't just serve people everything like a full-course dinner with us as one's personally maitre-d' Like rustlord said, writing a guide or even a small build example takes a lot of effort, and frankly we don't even know the person would understand what we've written down, in which case not only do we have to write the build, then the manual, and then have to go to record everything and put it up as a video as well. It's not like anyone's paying us or something. We do it because we'd like to help, but its got to be on our terms.
Just for a tip, and a reminder, the best way to ask for information concerning PvP is:
(1) Show us your build first, so we may critique it and point out better suggestions
(2) Show us how you fight with actual video examples, or at least try to describe it
(3) Give us a specific example of a situation where you are having trouble with, and then we can give answers
Both me and rustlord have written a few guides in the past, and its certainly not something you can just whip up at a moment's notice because someone asked it. Since the questions are vague and generalized, the only answer we can give are also vasue and generalized.
It is why I always ask what the person wants.
Does the person want just the best, most effective, set-up-and-ready-to-go type of FotM builds? Or does that someone have a specific preference or challenge he wants to meet, and try out new stuff?
Help us help you. Try to be specific and exact. Tell us what you want, or what is troubling you. Then we can help out a bit better.
A build is technically different from a FotM, like the video linked couple posts above mine. The FotM is the simplest, most viable and most popular copy-paste setup of the season--we usually don't ask people to explain it because everybody already knows.
We have totally different feat trees now. Was that module 2? That's a good one during its days.
Whoa!! Mirror, More, and Rust post EXTENSIVE and highly detailed theory crafting all through this forum. No there isn't a link to the optimal/fotm build because 1. Using those builds is considered cheesy and unoriginal and only spreads what is worst about the class and 2. All the fundamental relevant info is already here, all a person has to do is read and correlate the info for themselves. So if you do end up with a fotm/optimized build, it is a result of your own comprehension of the class and not just a c&p manufactured build lacking entirely in originality or player mastery of the class.
Actually, you're still wrong.
TR is actually in a pretty decent spot. It's not broken or ridiculously OP. It would take less than a handful of tweaks to the right feats/skills to make it pretty **** perfect.
Then again, coming from the guy saying every other class is broken, let me put this into child-terms for you: Kill yourself.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
If you simply ask 'can someone give me a TR pvp build', and then just copy it, you are probably not going to make full use of the build, and won't even know if it's the best build for yourself, and most importantly, it takes out a lot of fun in customising your own character in the game.
It is so easy to just test things out, and totally free to do it unlimited amount of times on preview shard. By doing that, you can get a sense of what makes certain things proc, and the timing. A better place to start is probably on nwcalc.com and read the descriptions and ask whether a certain feat or skill is using for a certain build.
If you don't care about all that, then you may as well just put all your points in the top row of any random path. Well that's what I gave to the last random person that asked me for my build ingame.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)