Wheel of Elements: too OP?

openforbreakfast

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[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1595 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1595 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1104 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1104 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 607 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Templar's Wrath absorbs 1213 damage from your Aura of Courage.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 607 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 607 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 607 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1213 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 652 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 652 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.

[Combat (Self)] Your Aura of Courage deals 1304 (3002) Radiant Damage to you.


... From full HP to death from my own aura. Something causes that to happen. Locate it and fix it

and while at it fix this **** as well cause some PVP players are starting to think they are good because of it

[Combat (Self)] Dom deals 30773 Fire Damage to you with Wheel of Elements: Fire.

vasdamas

The amount of suicidal powers in the game has been dramatically high recently. Just wondering, was there any warlock around? There some weird interaction of Warlock's bargain with one of OP's aura at the moment.

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schietindebux

its not only WB i fear, i am sure other dots also interact with it, since i recognize paladins are not my worst enemy, maybe wraith shadow also interacts, Hadar grasp can´t say
the number of bugs is out of range for devs since they only fix one in a month PVP will stay crappy buggy
do you have other auras to use?

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freshour

LOL. You want me to 1v1 the strongest class in the game currently, with only a MH and OH? You do realize a paladin is supposed to be able to tank 2-3 people, not die in 2 hits to a GF?

We have several paladins that I can't kill. I killed you in seconds. But if you want a MH/OH duel you can just give yourself the win . PvP isn't about the 1v1, it's about the W. Sooner you pugs learn that, the better.

vasdamas

openforbreakfast wrote: »

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[Combat (Self)] Dom deals 30773 Fire Damage to you with Wheel of Elements: Fire.

Yew...just noticed this one.

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freshour

Why don't you paste in the non fire damage.... a 30k fire hit, means I hit you for around 100k.... So sure you took 30k fire... but with the lack of debuffs you used, and the lack of tankiness you spec'd into... That was only one hit... you literally got one shot... wheel or no wheel, you died in 1 hit and a couple at-wills. I honestly hope they fix the wheel, but in reality, I use the temp hp and the healing just as much as I use the fire

schietindebux

if i think back in childhood there already were kids who fell out of the raster, never could share things, always wanted to have more, enjoying it when other kids cried all time.....
so they grow up, begin to mmo, find a playground to live their abnormal feelings, join a guild and spend their small bugs on things like broken wheels and lostmouth set to have more feelings like this "warm tickel" they felt when they were child
have mercy

quspiv

macjae wrote: »

While it's entirely true that the fire aspect of Wheel of the Elements is broken, it's also broken how tanky a properly built OP using certain powers can be. It will take some more testing, but I think there are some things about OPs that will need major tweaking, as now it seems that some OPs can't be killed by a reasonable number of players (i.e. not the entire team) outside of relying on the broken fire Wheel.

I think the problem with Aura of Courage affects allies too; I was in a dungeon run yesterday where some aura the OP was using suddenly started killing me.

Most players dont realize that you dont even need hit the OP, because they lack dmg, so you just ignore them and bring second players to cap the flag and then one of you leaves. Now you're the one holding the flag and Paladin can do nothing. If he stays there will lose the time and hurt his team.

lewstelamon01

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mfgamesys

freshour wrote: »

Why don't you paste in the non fire damage.... a 30k fire hit, means I hit you for around 100k.... So sure you took 30k fire... but with the lack of debuffs you used, and the lack of tankiness you spec'd into... That was only one hit... you literally got one shot... wheel or no wheel, you died in 1 hit and a couple at-wills. I honestly hope they fix the wheel, but in reality, I use the temp hp and the healing just as much as I use the fire

I hope you realize that the fire wheel gives piercing damage.

For example If I hit someone with an anvil for 66k base damage which is mitigated to 20k the fire wheel buff adds another 20k. The fire wheel buff goes off of the base damage pre-mitigation so it is piercing damage.

And if you did do 30k from the fire wheel buff alone all that was required was a 100k base damage hit pre mitigation where it may have done only 20k if said target was at dr cap. And most OP's have 100k plus hp.

marnival

schietindebux wrote: »

its not only WB i fear, i am sure other dots also interact with it, since i recognize paladins are not my worst enemy, maybe wraith shadow also interacts, Hadar grasp can´t say
the number of bugs is out of range for devs since they only fix one in a month PVP will stay crappy buggy
do you have other auras to use?

Auras interact with several things atm Gf KV, Hr gush and hunters proc, Sw proc, Dc dotts among other thing and that silly avalance boon.

3 things I seen can happen, 1 Pal gets killed by own dott, Pals hole party gets killed by own dott(this is rather comical when the entire team dies in a few sec dropping like somebody put an old school sleep spell on them), or the attacker dies(always from Gf kv+aura).

When you pvp and see your hole hp bar just vanish without the obvious reason of being cc chained killed or 1 shotted and there is a Pal around check logg and you will see that in many cases there is a multiproccing aura that kills you.

Several cases of this was reported early on preview and it is clear that some of these buggs made it through to live.

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