How about a class re-roll token

santralafax

I've got a GF iLevel 2.5 and HP 92K. He cannot feasibly do IWD or WOD with current difficulty level. Since I've got so much time and expense in this one character, I think it is reasonable to expect a class change option, post-Mod 6. I'm certainly not planning to start from scratch with a Paladin or GWF--everything these days is bound to character.

quaranax

I want a sex re-roll token, so I can become a lady at the weekends, like i do in real life.

nathanmehew2435

santralafax wrote: »

I've got a GF iLevel 2.5 and HP 92K. He cannot feasibly do IWD or WOD with current difficulty level. Since I've got so much time and expense in this one character, I think it is reasonable to expect a class change option, post-Mod 6. I'm certainly not planning to start from scratch with a Paladin or GWF--everything these days is bound to character.

Not sure if troll or not. Every MMO is like this and you should get use to it if you play them. Never has there been a class change token and never will.

ironzerg79

Here's the problem. Say they have a $20 class change token...you pay your $20, change class and then find out it's worse that your GF.

What do you do then? Probably come to the forums and complain that you wasted $20 on a class change, and demand they give you a refund and change you back

lerdocix

Ever considered the possibility of, I don't know, grouping up?

onegaki101

quaranax wrote: »

I want a sex re-roll token, so I can become a lady at the weekends, like i do in real life.

There is one available already, Race Reroll Token.

quspiv

You must be bad GF if you cant solo with such item lvl. Class re-roll token is not a problem but keep in mind that most of your items will be useless (except these which are not bound to specific class)

angrysprite

There is one already: it's called Character Slot; roll a new character. I'm not trolling, allow me to explain:

You change your class: now you have to redo a full respec (like a respec token) - now all your gear is laid waste: you have to re-acquire all that gear that is compatible with the new class (meaning re-level-up or spend a lot of AD in the AH and possibly not find what you really want). It would be easier and less costly to just roll a new character and do it all over again.

So beyond the "technical" limitations there are a lot of "is-it-worth-it" limitations that must be considered also. And because of this most people decide to either purchase or use an existing extra character slot to roll a new character; or delete their existing character to roll a new one. It depends on your ability or desire to do it.

mungsu

quaranax wrote: »

I want a sex re-roll token, so I can become a lady at the weekends, like i do in real life.

Let me guess, you're a lumberjack?

santralafax

angrysprite wrote: »

now all your gear is laid waste: you have to re-acquire all that gear that is compatible with the new class (meaning re-level-up or spend a lot of AD in the AH and possibly not find what you really want). It would be easier and less costly to just roll a new character and do it all over again.

Ahhh, but I just had to re-acquire everything post-Mod 6. So I'm kinda used to it now. Would have been an excellent time to change classes. This wasn't meant as a troll, but I would've thought that nuking regen, life-steal, and giving mobs artifact weapons all at one time "would never happen".

manzillaprime

santralafax wrote: »

I've got a GF iLevel 2.5 and HP 92K. He cannot feasibly do IWD or WOD with current difficulty level. Since I've got so much time and expense in this one character, I think it is reasonable to expect a class change option, post-Mod 6. I'm certainly not planning to start from scratch with a Paladin or GWF--everything these days is bound to character.

Nice troll post, but if true, the problem is you, not the class or the game. You should be facerolling the solo content in the level 73 zones you mentioned.

ancyras

I guess it won't happen because of many reasons :
- Sometimes, at some mods or patches some classes can be popular or stronger then others, some are can be weaker. Then most players re-roll to that class and it will effect class population in game badly.
- As technically it can't be so easy. When you re-roll a class how your gear will be switched? For example if you are a dps role class and re-rolled to a tank. Which belt system will give you? Con belt, Seldarine or Lathander? system can give you an option to select maybe or you can accept to loose all your old gears but even like that, can make lots of techinal problems that people will complain about it. There are lots of technical questions about it. Not so simple.
- We still discussing "are all spells & enchants & feats working properly?". When you reroll a class maybe new bugs can occur?

It's logical but a very hard request. But, something else should be done so people could play other classes and alts easily.

For example,
- If you finished all campaigns in your account, your alts on same account can get double rewards and you spend less time on questing and spend more time on other activities like dungeons, dragons, pvp, tiamat,
- Campaign boost token prices can be decreased from 5k zen to 1-2-3k,
- Upgrading gear is very important for powering-up your character. Making a character to end.game point from zero takes very long time. So, every month or every weekend can be double RF event. People will have more fun from game to play with powerfull characters and can play multi classes and can play other classes/alts as their main.

I want to play all classes but boons and upgrading is biggest problem, boons are finished on some of them, some I still work, but upgrading is not easy.

santralafax

quspiv wrote: »

You must be bad GF if you cant solo with such item lvl. Class re-roll token is not a problem but keep in mind that most of your items will be useless (except these which are not bound to specific class)

That may be true. And I have only recently tweaked my stats that high--he has become more playable than he was after Mod 6 cursed everything. But I'm getting to the end of what I can tweak--expect to earn/buy--and the end-game doesn't look very appealing.

ashnvf

magenubbie wrote: »

I lolled. But the short answer is: never gonna (and never should) happen.

Why not? They already gave out a game reroll token. Seems almost everyone got one of those.

rinat114

quaranax wrote: »

I want a sex re-roll token, so I can become a lady at the weekends, like i do in real life.

I second this.
I want.

(on a side note though - it'll never happen, move on.)

kvet

quspiv wrote: »

You must be bad GF if you cant solo with such item lvl.

Not true at all. Pre-m6 T2 gear gives you a false-high item score... something like 2.5k if I recall mine. The problem is those old T2 sets are complete rubbish now, but people are still holding onto them because using generic blue (even green) lvl 70 gear drops that score to like 1000, so they stick to the lvl 60 gear thinking it's still better. It's not. Gotta cut the cord on that lvl 60 gear. It took me a while to do that myself, and when I did it was like night and day. The new gear seemed like it would be <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> compared to my High Viz set, but I was instantly surviving fights that I was getting one-hit in before. It was hard to salvage those T2 sets I'd been hoarding, but worth it. Plus, the extra bank space was nice - no more sleeping on the floor next to my bed because my bet was covered in magazines.

Anyone still using lvl 60 gear will get destroyed pretty much instantly, skill really doesn't come into it.

kvet

mungsu wrote: »

Let me guess, you're a lumberjack?

And he's ok.

maybeheresy

Weird. I'm in the opposite position. Been playing 3 weeks now after a 3 year hiatus. I can go do stuff with my OP (tanky build, similar to Originating posters GF) that my SW is getting absolutely spanked at.

Guess which toon is parked and only doing invoking at the moment?

cybercyanide

kvet wrote: »

Not true at all. Pre-m6 T2 gear gives you a false-high item score...*snip* Anyone still using lvl 60 gear will get destroyed pretty much instantly, skill really doesn't come into it.

This. I hound all my friends until they do cut that cord. It really does make all the difference...
That old set bonus isn't going to do you any good when you're lying on the ground in a pool of your own blood :P hehee

kvet

cybercyanide wrote: »

That old set bonus isn't going to do you any good when you're lying on the ground in a pool of your own blood :P hehee

LOL amen to that

diogene0

Not going to happen.

neirgara

santralafax wrote: »

I've got a GF iLevel 2.5 and HP 92K. He cannot feasibly do IWD or WOD with current difficulty level. Since I've got so much time and expense in this one character, I think it is reasonable to expect a class change option, post-Mod 6. I'm certainly not planning to start from scratch with a Paladin or GWF--everything these days is bound to character.

I play a GF too with a lower Item LvL. I have no problems in IWD or WoD with some small exceptions (mostly mini dungeons) and my gear is nothing, that is hard to aquire.

I think, the problem is your build and your playstyle, which you will need to adapt to the new content.

If you would like to discuss some strategies and compare builds, feel free to PM me. I'm happy to help you out with ideas and am willing to group up with you for some enemybashing. I'm sure we will get you strong enough to handle the new content in no time.

gimpocalypse

nathanmehew2435 wrote: »

Not sure if troll or not. Every MMO is like this and you should get use to it if you play them. Never has there been a class change token and never will.

Based your "Every MMO is like this... Never has there been a class change token and never will.", that's not exactly true...

DDO has a class change token and even has multi-classing, it has Hearts of Wood that allow you to change the class you chose for a specific amount of levels [was 1,3 & 5 when I was last there]... with enough of them you could have changed all class choices for each level with them, if you felt the need.

DDO also has Reincarnation, which allows you to return level 1 as a new class with benefits from previous classes you've been previously with a Reincarnation Heart of Wood... Reincarnation is basically what the game built around & was [sure still is] the game's cashcow.

Reincarnating into & out of the FotM builds of any class(es) use to be done with ease [not sure if still like that if they changed into more class specific and/or bind status of gear].

suicidalgodot

Let's look at what that class reroll would men:

Minus side:
- You'll stand there naked. Like once on that beach, after the Dracolich attck.
- You'll have to spec your char, without the testing and forth-and-back adaption that the leveling process would automatically give you.
- You'll have to face up to the tough ones - without any training.

Plus side:
- No leveling up to 70 (especially the last ca. 14% make that a biiiiiig plus)
- You'd keep your campaign boons (there's ZEN-shop tokens for getting those)
- You'd keep your looks.

Ambiguous:
- Stats might or might not be better, but as the roll table is class specific, that has greater chances of being a disadvantage than an advantage. Or you'd have to reroll (probably).
- You'd save spending half of 300 ZEN for the extra char slot.

Better solution: Buy extra slot, roll new char, and give that a try. Getting to 70 is a matter of 2-3 weekends or one to two weeks without boosts and/or assistance, faster with either. campaigns? Well, buddy, either buy the three tokens (YES, this is hideously expensive, but if you calculate it versus hourly wages, this seems less so - not that I ever did that...) or play them, after all you'll want to play, and you'll gather useful stuff... ....ummm, some good bunch of RP. There, more realistc, better! ...during that.

So tl;dr: If you dislike your char that much, that you want to play another, do so - in a separate slot. XP is cheap in NW...