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trs hitting over 100k in pvp.

blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvP Discussion
im not anti tr nor do i think they need to be blanket nerfed. but ive heard many people say in mod 6 that they cant hit for over 100k. and i figured id prove them wrong. ignore the terrible music its not my video.
also it wouldnt have happened if it wasnt for the tr being overgeared and others being undergeared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXzYISam14
i guess i gotta explain further. im not asking for nerfing trs. DO NOT NERF TRS. trs do not need nerfing i play a tr and i do not feel they need a nerf i believe they are balanced. please leave them alone and stop accusing me of wanting to nerf them.
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  • nem3zissnem3ziss Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    First strike class feature... everybody said that damage buff from first strike is to much. Works only once in a fight, got nerfed once and then buffed by adding one more rank.
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nem3ziss wrote: »
    First strike class feature... everybody said that damage buff from first strike is to much. Works only once in a fight, got nerfed once and then buffed by adding one more rank.
    that first strike mustv been proccing many many times then.
  • ryfghbvryfghbv Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    First strike rank 4: your first strike in combat deals 75% more damage, that means that rogue was dealing around 65k with shocking execution. My rogue deals way more damage with Lashing Blade than shocking, if enemies are defenseless, plus shadow of demise...
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pff first strike needs a buff more than a nerf
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  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    He need to have insane gear to do that much dmg, though Exe get 100% bonus power on first attack in stealth. Average TR you find in the match wont do such dmg and it's quite easy to test. The dmg itself for an assassin isn't special, since Paladin can do even more with lvl4 daily, from higher range and without sacrificing passive slot for some kind of bonus dmg.
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    im not anti tr nor do i think they need to be blanket nerfed. but ive heard many people say in mod 6 that they cant hit for over 100k. and i figured id prove them wrong. ignore the terrible music its not my video.
    also it wouldnt have happened if it wasnt for the tr being overgeared and others being undergeared.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXzYISam14

    100k? My GF can crit up to ~180k (I'll post ss when it happens, since it rarely crits) and i have rank 7 enchantments, bad gear and a normal vorpal, without any fancy damage addon, not even 2 slot rings. But on the other hand, if the enemy is geared properly it only crits for like 90k (should be way less on BiS toons). It is also only possible in combination with knight's challenge and full reckless attacker stacks. But if my poor GF can do that kind of damage already, i don't wanna know what a BiS GF can crit for ^^.

    I'm starting to get the impression, that AOD is kind of overpowered. (I'm honest)

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  • vteasyvteasy Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    mis-read, thought class was GWF, OP, CW, GF as those are the ones that are always doing over 100k
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The best hit I recieved from a TR in 70 lvl pvp so far was 92k SE while I was full hp. Then he just pulled out another SE, after I CC'd him and got down to 30% or so. That was a fight on my home base, I quickly rushed back for it once I got revived within 5 seconds and you know what? Skilful Execution of course! I was pissed enough to pull HoB trick on him that time though.
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    First strike needs a second, third and fourth strike :P

    Or I doubt as any strategic, smart TR would want to pop up big 100K numbers just to get a$$ra*** by guy standing next to the poor b@sterd.

    PS: Killing one enemy, leaving, not even capping a node, doesn't bother to res a downed ally--on the video--not my idea of a smart TR btw.
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  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    I ran into an executioner TR using Shocking Execution with First Strike. On my SW. Fighting someone that can knock off 80-95% of your hit points with one attack like that isn't really feasible.

    Now, that is partially down to SWs lacking a proper dodge, but if they had a dodge, they'd probably be too good in other situations. GWFs would probably face similar issues, though they have more immediate burst which might let them near-one-shot back.

    The way that Shocking Execution works is simply broken; it shouldn't pierce defenses the way it does. It should at minimum respect tenacity and tenacity crit resistance.

    Well even with, watch the video and how he cancels out of SE several times while a GF was blocking. Waits for no block then lets it slam down on him.

    So unless you are given immunity frames via a true dodge, even a block TYPE thing wont help immunity+dodge could get you out of range too.

    SE maybe shouldnt bypass all DR - how about that 1 change :)
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  • angrymanagementangrymanagement Member Posts: 487 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ayroux wrote: »
    Well even with, watch the video and how he cancels out of SE several times while a GF was blocking. Waits for no block then lets it slam down on him.

    So unless you are given immunity frames via a true dodge, even a block TYPE thing wont help immunity+dodge could get you out of range too.

    SE maybe shouldnt bypass all DR - how about that 1 change :)

    Doesn't SE bypass block? (I really don't know) That was actually what I was thinking based on the way it was hitting GFs/OPs in the 60-69 bracket.
  • gomok72gomok72 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    im not anti tr nor do i think they need to be blanket nerfed. but ive heard many people say in mod 6 that they cant hit for over 100k. and i figured id prove them wrong. ignore the terrible music its not my video.
    also it wouldnt have happened if it wasnt for the tr being overgeared and others being undergeared.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXzYISam14

    That guy was geared to the teeth.

    With the 150k PvPers running around now and the stat push we are seeing with the new gear, yeah this is normal.

    There was a CW in IWD that was hitting people in excess with ICE knife for 130-150k damage along with Fey touch and he wa a geared PvP monster, do I think he should be nerfed, no.

    I think this is working as intended and should be bothered with, do like I do on my SW, group up and try not to get hit by the Rogues you know that will leave your toon a good black eye (Hell, GF are hittting this **** hard now, while you are stunned.).
    I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.

    -Kymos
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  • kriseinkrisein Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    Pff first strike needs a buff more than a nerf

    +1..people only call nerfs to TRs. i'm not surprised OP has always been using TRs as a smokescreen to his own buggy class.. :rolleyes:
    It's more fun in the Philippines >:)
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    krisein wrote: »
    +1..people only call nerfs to TRs. i'm not surprised OP has always been using TRs as a smokescreen to his own buggy class.. :rolleyes:

    im not asking for trs nerf if you actually wouldve read the post. i play a tr as one of my mains. l2read next time.
  • kriseinkrisein Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    im not asking for trs nerf if you actually wouldve read the post. i play a tr as one of my mains. l2read next time.

    there's no such thing as "one of mains" 'coz there's only one "main". check the dictionary. besides it's obvious that you don't play TR coz you don't know TRs. anyway, i'm not gonna argue with someone who lacks sense. one only needs to look at your posts to know who you are..
    It's more fun in the Philippines >:)
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    krisein wrote: »
    there's no such thing as "one of mains" 'coz there's only one "main". check the dictionary. besides it's obvious that you don't play TR coz you don't know TRs. anyway, i'm not gonna argue with someone who lacks sense. one only needs to look at your posts to know who you are..

    whatever you wish to believe. just so you know you may think you know me but you dont dont pretend like you do. i play tr every single day and enjoy it thoroughly. now you can come to my house and i can prove it to you. until then do not act like you know something you dont.also i guess your right no one on this game has a main they play. because according to this http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/main main is a pipe or electricity line.
  • kriseinkrisein Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    whatever you wish to believe. just so you know you may think you know me but you dont dont pretend like you do. i play tr every single day and enjoy it thoroughly. now you can come to my house and i can prove it to you. until then do not act like you know something you dont.also i guess your right no one on this game has a main they play. because according to this http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/main main is a pipe or electricity line.

    omg. i don't even know what to say. lol..
    ok buddy, here's the thing. you are ranting against TRs hitting 100k in pvp. and you want to prove it by posting a video in youtube dated April 16, few days after mod 6 was launched. it was very obvious that the player in video, as another poster have said, was geared to teeth. and most of the opponents, i assume, have not yet acquired a decent gear. so the point is, don't complain about something that you haven't even experienced. you said that you play TR? why don't you make a video of yourself in pvp hitting for 100k? I doubt you'll even hit the dummy in trade of blades for 50k. why? 'coz you're not a TR. you don't play TR. you don't know TR. you're a TR hater. you use TRs as smokescreen. that has been and will always be your agenda. as i said, one only needs to look at your posts to know who you are. res ipsa loquitor. nuff said..
    It's more fun in the Philippines >:)
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    krisein wrote: »
    omg. i don't even know what to say. lol..
    ok buddy, here's the thing. you are ranting against TRs hitting 100k in pvp. and you want to prove it by posting a video in youtube dated April 16, few days after mod 6 was lunch. it was very obvious that the player in video, as another poster have said, was geared to teeth. and most of the opponents, i assume, have not yet acquired a decent gear. so the point is, don't complain about something that you haven't even experienced. you said that you play TR? why don't you make a video of yourself in pvp hitting for 100k? I doubt you'll even hit the dummy in trade of blades for 50k. why? 'coz you're not a TR. you don't play TR. you don't know TR. you're a TR hater. you use TRs as smokescreen. that has been and will always be your agenda. as i said, one only needs to look at your posts to know who you are. res ipsa loquitor. nuff said..
    im not ranting against trs. read the post i said "im not anti tr nor do i think they need to be blanket nerfed...also it wouldnt have happened if it wasnt for the tr being overgeared and others being undergeared." im not kidding go read it right now because you obviously didnt read it. i have heard over and over that trs cant hit 100k with shocking execution and ive proven now that they do nothing more nothing less stop trying to spread false information.
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  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    A video edited and a monstrous geared MI doing 100k on inferior geared pugs hmmmm.... nah its normal wizards that caliber will do more damage from distance hustle free.CW damage should be trimmed and all its cc applied in pvp gets ICD of 3 seconds on all kinds of control.
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