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A few ways not to get kicked
metheantihero
Member Posts: 178 Bounty Hunter
We have enough threads on "i was kicked for nothing". Decided it was time for how not to get kicked.
1. play with friends / guild
2. understand your roll
3. research the boss fight
4. communicate with the team
5. dont grab loot during fights
6. dont allow other players to come in and start kicking when at the boss, kick them out 1st. they are trying to snipe your instance
7. dont try to enter CN with the minimum GS. Players cant read how well you play, only your GS
Im sure they are a few i missed.
1. play with friends / guild
2. understand your roll
3. research the boss fight
4. communicate with the team
5. dont grab loot during fights
6. dont allow other players to come in and start kicking when at the boss, kick them out 1st. they are trying to snipe your instance
7. dont try to enter CN with the minimum GS. Players cant read how well you play, only your GS
Im sure they are a few i missed.
If I should die on some far, far away battlefield
Know I answered the call
For a grand principle of freedom to yield.
My fervent prayer is that death
May not have been in vain
Fighting for peace and right for the world to attain
Know I answered the call
For a grand principle of freedom to yield.
My fervent prayer is that death
May not have been in vain
Fighting for peace and right for the world to attain
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Solo cueing is where the problem exists. Telling someone not to solo cue is not a solution. The people complaining are not getting kicked for poor play, that would mean the system is working as intended, they are getting kicked because the team wants a specific class, to remove someone from the loot role, or to troll.
Ways to not get murdered:
1) Don't go outside without a weapon.
2) Don't go outside unless there are many others present. That decreases the likelihood someone will attack you.
3) Don't make eye contact with or speak to anyone. This increases the likelihood of aggression and really it is your fault if they harm you.
3) Don't go outside without a bodyguard.
As a matter of fact, don't go outside. Stay inside. Lock your doors. Use more than one lock (6 is standard). Get a guard dog, get several guard dogs, dig a moat, get a private militia. I could go on but hopefully by now you get the picture.
Our rights are never eroded over night. It is a series of small events that we are always willing to concede to and then one day we wonder how we got to this point. People wanting to do dungeons, have a right to do them. That is a feature of the game. However, there is a group of people who are making playing the game as intended very difficult (read as: GRIEFING). Therein is where the problem lies.
2.) Be a Guardian Fighter
3.) Fix the system
4.) Fix the system
5.) Fix the system
If a system can be abused, it will be. It shouldn't be the players responsabilty to fix the system by becoming masters at everything. If the devs simply fixed it, then we wouldn't have so many threads.
Yep because the game tells you exactly who is initiating the vote.....
Lol so wrong
Lol you don't need a tank/hear for any of the dungeons (Havn't done CN so can't speak there) Went through the others with no guardian fighters of clerics and they were easy enough as is
And you'd be one of the people he's talking about then. If you weren't, you'd know full well that healers and tanks are not a necessary part of end game content.
Pup - Level 70 4.2k Buff/Debuff AC DC
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Heck even my GWF with 44k hp that is great at mob control gets kicked. Even though I need less healing than any others in the group
More truth.
Still more truth... unfortunately.
HRs get a bad rap. Everyone thinks they're no good -- even though they've never run with one.
I was just kicked (after my friend in the same Epic Dungeon) for the very first time, and it enraged me until I read this. You WILL be teamed up with ******bag players. I just ran an Epic Dungeon and was MVP on number of kills and most damage dealt, by far. I took the middle of the range on damage taken and was never downed once. I don't suck. I know how to play my character's abilities and I know where I am weak...at least, I thought I did.
While I will really never know why I was sent packing, I take comfort in knowing that I was teamed up with a socially ******ed kick happy jerk.
At least tell me what I need to work on so that I can combat my weaknesses.
Problem is that a lot of people don't think on their own, they'll just click Yes when the popup appear assuming the initiator is probably right.
Just try to play the kick game, I'm sure you would be ashamed of the success rate of kicking random people for no reason.
The other night ran through a dungeon all the way to the boss , only to get kick just before going in ... that was cute .
5) And for God's sake, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not go outside when the full moon occurs on the date of Friday 13th!
Dude . A major problem is you are unable to invite friends to instances so you have a buddy keep queing until by chance he gets the instance . In the mean time you kick like 20 dudes to make room for him.
The worst players in this game have a high gear score. Like the Rogue who has a 15k gs but never attacks the boss and instead tries to smoke bomb abd attack only the adds in castle never. This same idiot would try to kick anyone with under a 13k gs from the group when his incompetence is 90% of the reason for fail. You have 15k gs hybrid healers or CW who never cc adds.
Expect for two people I know in game anyone over 14k gs is utter garbage. The problem is they do not realize it. They honestly think gs is everything.....
The game needs to add the ability to invite friends before opening up an instance to que. If the group does que they need to specify a certain class type like healer, dps, or tank.
Another winner was the 15.5k GS guardian fighter running a so-called DPS build who can't or won't mark/aggro/kite the adds so the TRs and HRs can focus on the boss. After two wipes we asked him to handle the add aggro so the CW could help him with CC while the single-target, high-DPS guys hit the boss and he flat out refused. He said we should all focus on the adds so he can kill the boss. Insanity! We should have known there was a problem when we saw he stacked power and critical strike and never entered guard mode in any encounter during the lead up to the final boss.
Yeah, this is generally true. Lots of people have no idea how to play their class and think GS and party composition is all that matters. Unsurprisingly, a lot of those same people are the ones abusing the VTK system. I do have a high GS, but it's because I got lucky with artifact drops.
Lol. Get this one. I play a fury sw with the full accursed set bonus. I was invited to a group with a 16k CW. On the last boss in dread vault this guy's tells me he is a single target CW and should be the only one to attack the boss. I as a fury sw cannot possibly do as much dmg as him due to gs difference. He suggested I only attack adds with my beam lol. He refused to knock the adds off the edge due to his OP single target build. When the HR in our group attacked the boss the guy tried to boot him. It was unreal.
Any one dumb enough to invest 2k real money in this game is so stupid he cannot play it. What is the point.
We eventually killed the boss when I went single target . Still.... these idiots are everywhere and need to be muted and kicked from groups. At this point I auto kick anyone I do not know with a gs over 14k. It is not worth the effort to carry them .
I forgot to add I out dps the guy by 5 million. A 16k CW... built for AOE on adds and huge amounts of trash AOE dmg....
Are there really people who've spent that much money on this game? That sure would explain all the high-level, high-GS, completely ineffective toons I've seen out there. After all, if someone doesn't actually play the game to get their gear and learn their character, how could they possibly know how to play it?
My TR is really good now, but I'm on my third respec and I have almost 500 hours in the game so far. I know, I know... it's sad how many hours I've put into this game. I may have lost some sleep, but I'm really having a good time with it.
But
Petition the devs to raise the requirement to what the minimum should be
Really
That would be useful
If the min GS or whatever it is called now is to low it should be reset to the proper value
So what is the real needed value?
In most cases, however, the minimum GS is probably too low. This is especially true in PUGs where no one really works together, and characters aren't purpose built to compliment each other.
They could do that but part of the problem is that in all reality castle never (just using it as an example) is passable with 9300 gear score even if your whole team is at 9300 gear score. The problem is that most people suck and since they suck they need to improve their gear score so that they can then use their increased stats as a crutch. Not saying this to say that high gear score players suck, as a few people above have for whatever reason, but rather that increasing your stats has a definite impact on how easy content is. This then goes to why people kick low gear scores and there are 2 reasons I most often hear cited. The first is more or less what I already said that a high gear score means that even if they do suck they are less of a burden sucking at 15,000 gear score than someone sucking at a 9300 gear score. The second reason is that people often equate experience to gear score which gear score sometimes does correlate with time played and general skill, but often doesn't as people above have mentioned. In the end if you don't want kicked then run dungeons with people you know. Honestly if you're trying to pug Castle Never that is your first problem as the vast majority of people cant do it. They will cry, they will blame someone else for their poor play, they will kick those that blame them for failing. Note that these are all my own opinion and anyone can disagree with them as they please.