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Hidden daggers

nazghul22nazghul22 Member Posts: 407 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvE Discussion
A lot of damage, ranged, cannot be dodged. This is a TR power.
A GWF would be wearing a 40 pound sword, a metal armour, fifteen daggers, and run faster than Hussein Bolt?
Devs please explain.
ToD = ..........
Tired of Dailies/Tyranny of Dailies/Timers of Doom/Tricked Or Duped/Tremendously Obnoxious Dailies/Try Otherwise, Devs
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited May 2015
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  • zacazuzacazu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,934 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    A lot of damage, ranged, cannot be dodged. This is a TR power.
    A GWF would be wearing a 40 pound sword, a metal armour, fifteen daggers, and run faster than Hussein Bolt?
    Devs please explain.
    http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Class
    Striker
    "Strikers specialize in mobility and damage output. These combatants focus on disposing threats as quickly as possible by doing as much damage as they can, as quickly as they can, without enemies retaliating"

    so...

    ps:images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkMhzNnZBamy0YXWiAFOE8A77l5ZESjyJVvwb8v8FFbt5oPcWRpQ
  • rversantrversant Member Posts: 896 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    While I hate the name of the power and the little leap back. I like its strength and its probably the only good ranged damage dealer we have, I'd rather it be some sort of sonic boom from our sword swing, or a roar. but not going to complain.

    Why does it matter to you anyway? this is the PvE forum. so unless you're sore that a GWF managed to outdps you in a dungeon, why complain here.
    People are way too negative, Why cant we just all get along.


    Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
  • baszun67baszun67 Member Posts: 89
    edited May 2015
    rversant wrote: »
    While I hate the name of the power and the little leap back. I like its strength and its probably the only good ranged damage dealer we have, I'd rather it be some sort of sonic boom from our sword swing, or a roar. but not going to complain.

    Why does it matter to you anyway? this is the PvE forum. so unless you're sore that a GWF managed to outdps you in a dungeon, why complain here.

    Only good???? Try only baby gweef. Aside from doohickey
  • methecsgodmethecsgod Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    40% extra damage, I cannot see how anyone can possibly complain about animation.
  • rversantrversant Member Posts: 896 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    methecsgod wrote: »
    40% extra damage, I cannot see how anyone can possibly complain about animation.

    Because the animation doesn't suit it. I said the effect is good and that I like its strength. but I dont have to like its animation do I? imagine if a CW was throwing CoS daggers instead of magic missile. or a clerics divine glow was just the SE animation recycled or a TR's SE used the ice knife animation instead. it wouldn't suit the class aesthetic would it. Same with a Highly armored warrior with a giant sword doing a little backwards hop and throwing a few daggers. It's just a recycled animation ( like many other things from this mod) and doesn't suit the rest of the GWF's kit.

    EDIT : @Zacazu. sure guts has thrown a little blade once or twice, But he does it with style :P(I dont think I've seen it very much though) , he also has an arm cannon, can we get one of those too pls. also berzerker armor transmute because that would actually be amazing.
    People are way too negative, Why cant we just all get along.


    Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Hidden Greatswords.
    Misery's SW Fury Soulbinder PvP guide
    WTB Class Reroll please
  • rversantrversant Member Posts: 896 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Hidden Greatswords.

    Yes pls. needs more swords. Make it like Gilgamesh from Fate/zero Lol.
    tumblr_ma9rqrnSPK1rfgw56o1_500.gif
    People are way too negative, Why cant we just all get along.


    Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • zacazuzacazu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,934 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    the cannon thing is a "anime exaggeration"; daggers are a direct influences of judeau.
    tumblr_n1e0ikXqZm1qcpqj7o1_400.gif
    being a martial skills, I dont see aesthetic problem.

    about the amazing anime influences listen in this forum or not ... until a big part of preview, gwf was a very fun class to play (range burst/melee dps... like a dragon ball... hahha). Unfortunately the dev thought the small fix to some new mechanicals of other classes justify the complete and ninja destruction of grand fissure.
    latest?cb=20130327123415&path-prefix=pt:mad:
  • commanderdata001commanderdata001 Member Posts: 307 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    A lot of damage, ranged, cannot be dodged. This is a TR power.
    A GWF would be wearing a 40 pound sword, a metal armour, fifteen daggers, and run faster than Hussein Bolt?
    Devs please explain.
    Not to mention 40% damage buff is very high! I have never seen any encounter that high self buff in any other class repertoir!
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    commanderdata001 wrote: »
    Not to mention 40% damage buff is very high! I have never seen that high self buff in any other class repertoir!

    .........you are so fun
    storm spell
    chilling presence

    limiting to encounter yes, there are no other encounter giving that kind of buff.
    when something like this is present is always limited to the first attack after the encounter usage.
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    .........you are so fun
    storm spell
    chilling presence

    limiting to encounter yes, there are no other encounter giving that kind of buff.
    when something like this is present is always limited to the first attack after the encounter usage.

    I'm pretty sure GF's Into the Fray qualifies. 100% of DR as increased damage at rank 4 for you and your allies, ftw. Not to mention the other bonuses it grants...
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    damaging encounter giving damaging bonus are much rarer
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Didn't understand if this thread is a complaint about HD buff/damage/range/AoE or if it's just to say it does not fit GWFs.
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  • commanderdata001commanderdata001 Member Posts: 307 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    .........you are so fun
    storm spell
    chilling presence

    limiting to encounter yes, there are no other encounter giving that kind of buff.
    when something like this is present is always limited to the first attack after the encounter usage.

    They called passives! Not encounters!
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    embracemysword wrote: »
    Better stick to PvE, with your crying and power stacking GWF.

    That's uncalled for. I wasn't crying, only giving a comparison of a power with a similar effect. Chill, dude.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    commanderdata001 wrote: »
    They called passives! Not encounters!
    which always go in your power bar...so if something without cooldown can have that power why something with cooldown cant have it?

    does not make it less ******ed..just to show how much biased you can
  • sentineltitaniasentineltitania Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    zacazu wrote: »
    latest?cb=20130327123415&path-prefix=pt:mad:

    So much nostalgia from my childhood. You should check out Saint Seiya: Soul of Gold that's just came out. The Original 12 Gold Saints have been revived.

    On topic: I really don't like this encounter's animation. A GWF is a warrior that just rushes forward and engages his enemy. He doesn't play tricks with "Hidden" things... much less Daggers (!) I mean come on... Not only the animation is recycled from Blitz, but the same weapons (Daggers) are. Both of these elements are from TR. I don't think any GWF wants to ressemble a TR at all. They are like day and night.

    At least if the animation was like the Barbarians in Icewind dale where they throw a barrage of Axes in front of them.
  • helpimblindinrlhelpimblindinrl Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm always amazed when people think a videogame should be balanced around tabletop rules and lore. Maybe give cws timestop that freezes everyone for 30 seconds. That totally wouldn't be utterly insane at all.
  • commanderdata001commanderdata001 Member Posts: 307 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    helpimblindinrl wrote: »
    I'm always amazed when people think a videogame should be balanced around tabletop rules and lore. Maybe give cws timestop that freezes everyone for 30 seconds. That totally wouldn't be utterly insane at all.

    Called D&D for a reason...
  • phoenix1021phoenix1021 Member Posts: 532 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I don't really see the problem here. Why can't a fighter fight with daggers? Those are blades too, just smaller. Imo throwing axes or greatswords would be the ridicilous thing...
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Can i have a great weapon ranger and throw ibs here and there? :cool:
  • zacazuzacazu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,934 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    sentineltitania wrote: »
    So much nostalgia from my childhood. You should check out Saint Seiya: Soul of Gold that's just came out. The Original 12 Gold Saints have been revived.

    I saw. the great Aiolia is the protagonist!

    about the mimimi: a golden rule.

    1 - cws can not complain about other classes. because you guys produce more damage than a primary strikers, even being a secondary striker. thats is not a bad encounter designe . is a HOLE BAD BALANCE DESIGNE.

    2 - cws can not comment about "performance in dungeons" using themselves as references. Why? A primary controller doing more damage than primary strikers+some other craps?

    3 - cws is the class of the "master". it is almost like being the favorite cousin that "weird" friend of childhood that slave your friends because is the owner of the new and expansive videogame of market.

    now, back to the topic:

    ps: d&d my ***. i have magicka if want see a mage protagonist .
  • suddenlyslowsuddenlyslow Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    ..
    A GWF would be wearing a 40 pound sword, a metal armour, fifteen daggers, and run faster than Hussein Bolt?
    ...

    Slight derail, but do realize a 40 pound sword would have to be about 55 feet long.
  • zekethesinnerzekethesinner Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    Can i have a great weapon ranger and throw ibs here and there? :cool:

    Its called Minsc, and we can have only one! W8 for next gorgon, the u can take his place.

    Btw, its always so funny when pply want to racionalize stuff like "gwf cant have great sword, 15 daggers and havy armor and run like bolt" while next on they back tr is passing by totaly invisible, cw is using freaking magic, dc is healing some from near dead to full life force in 3 sec, gf with his small shield is shielding breath of a dragon, ****ing dragon! hr with one skill can make himself immune to a bite of goddess itself, ****ing goddess, sw is using acctual curses and by running around with silly beam melts evrything, and OP, well Op can do bascily both what GF or DC, just by standing close.

    Enought irony to make the point?

    (SIn)cerely
    Kain


  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    commanderdata001 wrote: »
    Called D&D for a reason...

    then give me ability to stop boss mid attack while i go grab a beer and think about how will i deal with it :D
    Paladin Master Race
  • zekethesinnerzekethesinner Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    burkaanc wrote: »
    then give me ability to stop boss mid attack while i go grab a beer and think about how will i deal with it :D

    Geas. ;)

    (Sin)cerely
    Kain


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