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cerenathcerenath Member Posts: 14 Arc User
edited March 2015 in PvE Discussion
Hey guys atm i'm a lvl 50 gf and i'm bored. By the low dps the class got. So i'm looking for a new class.

I'm mainly going to focus on pve dungeons. And solo quests/foundry.
And maybe a few times a battleground. Just for fun.

But i'm not sure what to pick. I like tr but keep hearing they suck in pve. And how is sw doing atm?

And any1 got a release date for mod6? Alway like paladins.
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  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    CW, DC, HR, SW. TR - the character classes that are fun to play :^)

    OK, more serious note: For us to give helpful advice, give us some more information than "GF sucks no DPS", please.
    - What's your fav playstyle - lazy stand'n'shoot, or hyperactive dodgy?
    - Wanna kill-kill-kill or rather enjoy sneking up on the reds and choreographing a ballet of destruction?
    - Versality or specialization, what's more appealing to you?
    - Pure ranged attacker or do you love to cuddle once in a while?

    Tanky or squishy will be kind of obsolete in ten days...

    Tip: Queue for a few level appropriate dungeon runs with pugs and watch what they're doing. Find the one class that fascinates you the most that way.
  • cerenathcerenath Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    CW, DC, HR, SW. TR - the character classes that are fun to play :^)

    OK, more serious note: For us to give helpful advice, give us some more information than "GF sucks no DPS", please.
    - What's your fav playstyle - lazy stand'n'shoot, or hyperactive dodgy?
    - Wanna kill-kill-kill or rather enjoy sneking up on the reds and choreographing a ballet of destruction?
    - Versality or specialization, what's more appealing to you?
    - Pure ranged attacker or do you love to cuddle once in a while?

    Tanky or squishy will be kind of obsolete in ten days...

    Tip: Queue for a few level appropriate dungeon runs with pugs and watch what they're doing. Find the one class that fascinates you the most that way.

    i'll do a dungeon and focus more and how other classes act.

    What's your fav playstyle.
    ranged or melee doesn't really matter. hyperactive dodging is more my thing that rooted into 1 place(i hate you tera combat)

    Wanna kill-kill-kill or rather enjoy sneking up on the reds and choreographing a ballet of destruction.
    i'm more a kill kill kill type. but switching from time to time is fine.

    Versality or specialization
    i think versality. but it doesn't have to be all in one spec. so switching from ranged to melee by changing gear/spec is fine.


    Pure ranged attacker or do you love to cuddle once in a while
    cuddle once in a while is cool. but doesn't have to be in 1 spec.

    Tanky or squishy
    more like tanky. but mobile and tanky in 1 spec sounds like asking to win the lotery.
    so squishy but mobile above tanky.


    and if i type it out like that its probebly tr or hr.
    but are they welcome in pugs? or will you have a hardtime getting into groups?
  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    What can I say? DC (righteous) is the best class for you!
    It has ranged attacks, but you may find that letting them come to you makes it easier to aim. Both dmg and survivability are decent, and you can choose between more tanky or more dps-y by switching encounters. You'll be still dodging much, but hey, it's fun! And you can heal yourself, so you don't need to drag that annoying hirudotherapist companion with you.

    Also you'll be always welcome in dungeons.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    CW, heard it's hard to level till like...lvl 20. Then it's quite fun and in fact useful. For both PvE and PvP, once you figure what to do.
    TR is fun too but depends on you really, do you like stealth and backstabbing? :P
    ulviel wrote: »
    What can I say? DC (righteous) is the best class for you!
    It has ranged attacks, but you may find that letting them come to you makes it easier to aim. Both dmg and survivability are decent, and you can choose between more tanky or more dps-y by switching encounters. You'll be still dodging much, but hey, it's fun! And you can heal yourself, so you don't need to drag that annoying hirudotherapist companion with you.

    Also you'll be always welcome in dungeons.

    Recently I've witnessed funny scene in eLOL. Some CW and HR trolled our DC after they realized he was righteous (we queue'd up as LFG party), were making fun of him till DC got pissed off and left. Had two DCs after that too via queue, each recieved a question asking if they are righteous or faithful. Both were righteous and got kicked too. Ended up killing Lostmauth as 4. I don't really mind DPS DCs but they did make a good point. Queue should consider Righteous DCs as another DPS rather then leaving them a VIP room for party.
  • sangrinesangrine Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Devoted Cleric (DC). DC can be healer or dps or both.
    DC has excellent class artifact.

    If you enjoy frantic combat in both ranged and melee, try a trapper hunter-ranger.
    control wizards are good too.

    Maybe a paladin.
  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    So, from looking at your answers, a DPS-focused (righteous) DC might might also be an option, next to HR and TR. The DC would be less cuddly, but a bit more tanky than the two; at least capable of healing themselves between fights, and with the right encounters slotted and used, also during the fight. I wouldn't completely rule out SW & CW, too. But yeah, HR and TR sounds like a good plan, DC should be, properly specced, also an option.

    In my humble personal opinion, of these three HR has probably the highest longterm entertainment value, DCs are welcome in every party and can do superb damage, too, and TR is probably the easiest to play, but can sometimes get a bit boring.

    Versality meant the bandwidth of available skills. Top example is IMHO the DPS DC currently: From high damage over healing, CC, and buff to defense - they have their skill for everything, even ranged AoE damage (though the area is really tiny, actually). You can switch and choose your Encounters between fights if the situation demands something other than what you've curently fielded. HR is similar. TR is a bit more focused, mainly on their immedate surroundings, but they can do decent AoE there, too. CW, however, can mainly do one thing: "Do you want some more CC with your DPS? And for dessert, will you take some less DPS with your greater CC?", that's their double bundle. But they can do that soooo well that they get away with their squishyness. :^) HR is the Jack of all damaging trades with excellent CC (Trapper), at the cost of some damaging power, and TR is the hit & run wonder - if you have to run, that is, often hitting until movement stops is good enough.

    Getting into groups: At levels below 60 (or, soon, 70) I cannot comment. The time spent there is so long past, ask again in four to five weeks, then I can tell you about a Paladin's chances :^) There I always just queued and evntually the dungeon was launched, or sometimes even not. And in some cases I went with ad hoc parties after waiting in front of the gate, or being chatted up at the campfire. Also, it doesn't have to be dungeon runs, they'd only give you figures in addition to watching.

    To get an impression on what a class can do, you can just ask people at the base camp "Hey, I'm thinking of rolling up a ___. Would you party up and show me what you can do?" That might elicit a few "get lost!" replies, but those that agree will probably discuss their gameplay and advertise their skills with pride and enthusiasm. You can also make friends that way...
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    for pve
    if you want to be one like many others, feel OP and accepting that is not your credit go for CW.
    the most fun for me remains HR
  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    [...] I don't really mind DPS DCs but they did make a good point. Queue should consider Righteous DCs as another DPS rather then leaving them a VIP room for party.

    The queue fastpathing isn't the player's choice.

    The players's choice I had to make was: "Do I take some more healing and one good capstone feature while my damage still sucks? Or do I take significant buff class features, 1500% Weapon Damage as DoT on Crit, 15% more damage taken to target, and high octane mode damage dealing during the first 25 seconds of - while not nerfing my heals?" - with the background that most people already had high Lifesteal builds???

    Meh. Talk about blaming the player, not the game,...

    By all means limit that queue bypass to Virtuous and Faithful. I couldn't care less, but while I don't explicitly need and want that feature, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy or advertise it. Also I think, once Mod 6 is online, this attitude will probably dissolve faster than a snowflake in hell...
  • felixkamfelixkam Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Like Suicidalgodot said you should observe the other people in dungeons to see how the class plays, or level a class for a bit to try it out, if you're about to make an important decision like picking a paragon path, try transferring the character to the Owlbear server and test it out on the dummies first. Remember as long as you haven't made the decision yet on the main server, you can retransfer it to Owlbear to repick amd try it out as many times as you want.

    Personally I'd support a trapper HR, but that's a great deal of personal bias right there. HR is fun and your split shot at-will pretty much carries you throughout the leveling process if you want to progress quickly through that.

    As for the classes you mentioned, TR is doing fine in PvE and dominating in PvP, while SW is doing well in PvE only. However Mod 6, assuming no changes to the preview server, will result in significantly weaker SWs in PvE so...
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  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Some CW and HR trolled our DC after they realized he was righteous (we queue'd up as LFG party), were making fun of him till DC got pissed off and left. Had two DCs after that too via queue, each recieved a question asking if they are righteous or faithful. Both were righteous and got kicked too. Ended up killing Lostmauth as 4. I don't really mind DPS DCs but they did make a good point. Queue should consider Righteous DCs as another DPS rather then leaving them a VIP room for party.

    Which actually proves they didn't make a good point. If they were able to do it as 4, they didn't need a healer.
    They were simply jerks.

    And back to the topic, yes, it depends what you like. It's really hard to tell before you try it all, so how about you create one of each class? You can have different accounts so you don't have to pay for char slots. You should have a good idea what you enjoy most after, let's say, lvl 20.
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