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GWF :VS CW scenario

pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
edited March 2015 in NeverwinterPreview - Feedback/General Discussion
Hi Guy's A.A here.

We talk today about GWF in pvp and my perspective IN MODE 6.
Not mod 5..not mode 4.
MODE 6 : PREVIEW


Lets try Gwf vs CW:
GWF gets totaly owned By CW ,with 0 chances to win ?But why ?



The Ranged Tank :
CW is way better tank then gwf. (ranged tank) (shield/flawless dodge/Negation enchant)




U cant Kill what u cant Hit :
The fact u removed intimidation give us no more aoe(daring shot/Come and get it) So even harder to reach target , at least with aoe we could do a bit of range.
Repel will delay/push us away and reset everything.



You call that CC ?:
Because of the High CC rezistance, Take down, Flury stuns less then 0.5 seconds , Surge less then 0.2seconds. But CW due his double CC duration since mod 5 , wont feal a diference.




Run Forest run:
Because GWF is SLOW will miss almoust all At wills/Grand fissure bcs is low casting/or IBS.
And even if he menage to rush thread ,it only have 3 charges , so again in dizavantage , cant reach the perfect dodges/ of CW.
Sprint helps but not much (low duration) and it's easy countered.



Repel time:
CW can just Happy Jump away and troll you to death with Repel Skill (the skill that push u away and resets all the battle in his avantage) and way more CC' chain/duration, dots, damage.
And yeah Compared to GWF damage ,Cw' damage is like x2 x3bigger or close to that



Overall:
Gwf barely reaches target , cant damage bcs with shield and perfect Negation CW is Super tank,
cant catch it bcs of dodges / Huge delay/battle reset bcs of repel (push you away :20 M).
Heavy debuffs' ,Damage/Instant CC's.
Gwf CC to low duration to even Hold CW enough for an encounter. (surge,takedown,flourish)


And this is Only CW vs GWF scenario.





I wont mention that my HR Alt char totaly owns Mythical GWF's in 10-20 seconds (same lv)..thats other story). If i dont want to fight , i can easy avoid with my speed,dodge encounters. ( Shift dodge is good ,when it's not totaly ignored... (enemy goes trough ur dodge).

Tr the same.





So yea , What terrible SIN, GWF did..to get all this blows ? Melle class that suffers big time from Ranged classes.


VS DC ??hah DC' dont even need astral shield no more..they can be immortals without it.( the new encounter OP)



Thanks to my babe Nico (papa) and many others for so much support in testing and such (nelo xoxo).

May the Bacon bless.
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • revovlerjesus1revovlerjesus1 Member Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    IF you die vs CW you are doing it wrong :)
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Where's the part about sprint and unstoppable making a GWF immune to all the CW's CC spells, including repel? I missed that part.

    And what about a GWF being slow? They can sprint faster than a 110% mount...
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  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Go test first :P , then return here to debate //etc.
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  • djoffer1djoffer1 Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Suck less? Seriously if you cant beat a cw in pvp as a gwf you are doing it sooo very wrong, and yeah I have a lvl 60 gwf and cw on preview.
  • djoffer1djoffer1 Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    well CW has more immunites than GWF
    unmitigable shield
    ridiculously OP selfheal from capstone
    tons of autoproc

    i guess the next thing they ill do is that CW melt everything by just looking at it

    anyway inb4 lock cause talking about CW is forbidden.

    And what immunities would that be? And excactly what selfheal will we have in mod 6 once they destroy lifesteal(hint:none!)...

    Gotta agree with you about autoprocs, but well currently they are the only source of damage we have, so removing them is not really an option.
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  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    sounds like a hate thread with no constructive feedback, yep this'll be locked.

    I suggest next time trying to be constructive and make smart looking feedback with numbers and maybe ACT to support your post. While there are many things we could change to CW GWF (and SW too) keep in mind that in every MMO ranged DPS usually have an advantage over melee DPS in PvP. This is also true in NW. Giving an at will similar to could of steel to the GWF would make a big difference IMO, it would help with spacing. (hidden daggers encounter kinda suggests the GWF keeps dagger somewhere, so why can't he use those daggers for more short range attacks similar to cloud of Steel..?)

    That's the sort of feedback that will go somewhere, bashing will get your thread locked, and that's what it sounds like.
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  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    lmfao if you lose against a CW as a GWF you're terrible. You don't even need Intimidation.

    I'm a destroyer with the classic Takedown - FLS - IBS combo. I've went up against 4 EOA CW's in a real 1v1. And kicked their asses one by one. I've also went up against one of their best HR trappers and bullied/dominated him as well, he looked like a harmless little kid taking all my big hits. Won twice VS him as well. No disrespect towards these folks but just stating that it can be done.


    You just suck at GWF.
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  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    we talk about mod 6 lv 70 pvp

    It will be the same thing. Once module 6 hits I'll go VS CW's and report back with results. You guys make it seem like GWF is SO weak, but if you know how to play it (Example: You aren't a wanna be GWF and been a GWF since beta) you will excel even with all the nerfs as well as the regen rework.. Destroyer hits like a truck in PVP, and if you time your attacks and sprint right, you will win VS the CW's.. it's that simple. Plus we have the new sprint buff in Unstoppable + the feat. These bookworms aren't getting away, trust me.
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  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    get to 70 and try for urself instead of posting false speculations.

    I read your username, pretty much says everything about your GWF skills.

    I'm done responding to you, I'll just be sitting here loling at you GWF posers crying while I kick some ass.
  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    It depends greatly on the gear/skill of the CW and the GWF.

    My experience has been, that GWFs are way more gear dependent than CWs, since CW's with low GS/low HP nevertheless have the benefit of Shield on Spell Mastery, which compensates a great deal for the lack of survivability. GWFs on the other hand really do have to get up into the 20k+ GS range in order to do well in PVP. But low/mid-range GWFs have a lot of trouble surviving against all classes, including CWs.
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  • umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    try to kill mod 6 bis geared CW with GWF

    CW is at 90-100% hp 70% of the fight due to amount of the capstone healing procs with 110k hp build

    And when the capstone proc is crit increase?
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Nothing really productive here.
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